But that's my point, over that 15 year stretch I'm not sure I'd say he was one of the best goal scorers. Yes, he's 5th overall for that stretch, but that's because the period is completely biased to him vs. other players who didn't play during that full 15 year period. So, looking at that entire 15 year period, while cumulatively, he's 5th in goals, he only finished top 5 in goals in 1 of those seasons, finished 6th in 2 others and then 17th and 18th are the next highest....then 20 something, 30 something, etc. That's all I'm saying here.
He is 106th in goals all time, 147th in assists, 115th in points.
Gotta judge players on their era and not penalize them for playing in a tougher era to score.
I like how @jigglysquishy correctly pointed out, on page 1, that there is no such thing as a "1st ballot Hall of Famer" in hockey... and then we have six more pages of people saying he is / isn't a first-ballot Hall of Famer.
Mogliny isn't in because the committee thinks he doesn't care and won't come. He's not the bar you have to clear
4xtop ten in scoring is not enough for a first ballot HOFer. He had some good years and I think placed Selke top ten once. He's an agitator and won a cup. That's good enough to get you on the plane but he's not flying first class.
I was shitfaced when I made that post last night. I had finally finished moving. You reminded me I made it and I regret it. I was the douchebag.
