We’re not allowed to look at what Mccan did but he’s allowed with Kerfoot. It’s okay to admit you were wrong. That’s all I want is them to admit I was wrong on this. I push back to see if they ever admit they’re wrong. They either ramble on trying to justify their point or just stop replying when they’re wrong.
Well, I definitely disagree. You should start that Dubas cult people made up for the board.
The dubas cult is in full force.
Pittsburgh was already protecting 7 other forwards so they were going to lose McCann for nothing in expansion, so their GM cleverly found another GM willing to trade him 21 year old former 2nd round #58 OA in 2018 in Filip Hållander and a 7th round pick, so the Leafs could then expose him and lose him for nothing instead and also pay an acquisition price to do so.
The end result of this maneuvering is that Pittsburgh lost two nhl players off their roster Toronto lost nonePittsburgh was already protecting 7 other forwards so they were going to lose McCann for nothing in expansion, so their GM cleverly found another GM willing to trade him 21 year old former 2nd round #58 OA in 2018 in Filip Hållander and a 7th round pick, so the Leafs could then expose him and lose him for nothing instead and also pay an acquisition price to do so.
Pittsburgh got 2 future assets from McCann trade, Seattle got Jared McCann and his team leading 27 goals and 54 points and the Leafs got nothing.
The team that gets nothing and has to pay extra assets to do so in not winning in my books. IMO
Some think it would have been wise move to lose Kerfoot and keep Hallander + 7th. Is it because we made good deal with Penguins (only because of ED), so it really stings to lose that player. McCann was always protection for us to have one good middle six winger intanct even after ED.
Pittsburgh was already protecting 7 other forwards so they were going to lose McCann for nothing in expansion, so their GM cleverly found another GM willing to trade him 21 year old former 2nd round #58 OA in 2018 in Filip Hållander and a 7th round pick, so the Leafs could then expose him and lose him for nothing instead and also pay an acquisition price to do so.
Pittsburgh got 2 future assets from McCann trade, Seattle got Jared McCann and his team leading 27 goals and 54 points and the Leafs got nothing.
The team that gets nothing and has to pay extra assets to do so in not winning in my books. IMO
Ironically the 2 Leaf players the Leafs GM was desperate to protect were Justin Holl and Alex Kerfoot, who just happen to be the 2 players mentioned and most preferred options on their way out of Toronto this summer.
Yep. Mess's analysis makes absolutely no sense. Like, completely missing the point.
Brilliant analysis.
People are arguing over an expansion draft when the core can’t even win a round. That’s what brilliant.
As a Leaf fan I don’t really care how the expansion draft impacted the Pens. I’ll give them the benefit of doubt that they knew what they were doing there.
Pittsburgh was already protecting 7 other forwards so they were going to lose McCann for nothing in expansion, so their GM cleverly found another GM willing to trade him 21 year old former 2nd round #58 OA in 2018 in Filip Hållander and a 7th round pick, so the Leafs could then expose him and lose him for nothing instead and also pay an acquisition price to do so.
Pittsburgh got 2 future assets from McCann trade, Seattle got Jared McCann and his team leading 27 goals and 54 points and the Leafs got nothing.
The team that gets nothing and has to pay extra assets to do so in not winning in my books. IMO
Ironically the 2 Leaf players the Leafs GM was desperate to protect were Justin Holl and Alex Kerfoot, who just happen to be the 2 players mentioned and most preferred options on their way out of Toronto this summer.
because covid shut down the league and put us into our 3rd season in the flat cap era?
Why are you using production after the expansion draft for the kerfoot vs McCann decision (which really should have been Kerfoot and McCann kept, Holl dealt, Lilijgren promoted + 1 vet RHD)
So don't use their stats post ED but pretend like we knew Liljegren was ready for full-time NHL action?
You're using a 1 season sample size, and he had an oish% of 16... that is insane and not sustainable.
You're ignoring the fact Kerfoot is better than McCann defensively too.
Was the organization not high on lilijgren?
It's funny how this post-trade year was so relevant and extensively referenced to play up McCann and downplay Holl for literally pages, and crickets, and yet you felt the need to "at the time" Kerfoot being described in the same way in response, even though it really made no difference to the point being made. Might not want to look at McCann's career high point total "at the time". Or the red flags in his underlying metrics. Or what McCann's point totals would be this year without the PP opportunities that Kerfoot doesn't get and McCann wouldn't have gotten here.
McCann was a 60 pt player (pace) on the pens and had 54 in 70 something thus year (60ish pt pace again)
