What can we do to get Keefe fired.
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Clark4Ever
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Biggest problem I have with Keefe is the puck possession philosophy
Our guys try to make too many plays in our own end when an easy flip out is available
Happened a half dozen times tonight where Columbus caused a turnover and got good chances because of it
Our guys try to make too many plays in our own end when an easy flip out is available
Happened a half dozen times tonight where Columbus caused a turnover and got good chances because of it
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Nothing is perfect, but the crowd is correct the majority of the time. And it is how he got turfed
Blanche Blanche
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yep.
DUBAS WHAT A JOKE. PUKE.
4 years thinking 5'5 Ballerinas can play possession hockey. Guy watched Brad pitt in Moneyball and thought he was THE GUY for hockey.
Last couple years before he IS FIRED... he makes a U-turn and admits he needs tougher players.
The most valuable Franchise in the NHL...
4th largest city in north America, largest in Canada..
Torontos hockey team...
Given to some fraudster that sold his idiocy to shanny to try to reinvent the wheel.
Shanny will always have to bear this crap, if we dont get to the cup finals and win
RunItBackAgain
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That was never the issue, you could tell the boys had an extra step last night. Give it a week or two and we’ll be right back where we were with Keefe having no clue how to adjust as always.Let’s revisit this, a second…
IMO the boys play when they need to for Keefe because they don’t want to lost their free pass, not because they respect him or think he can take them all the way.
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When the going is easy and teams are playing lackadaisical the Leafs will score and win. When they’re not gifted goals they’ll need eyes that can help them adjust rather than doing the same thing hoping they can win.
Having said that, is there a coach available that can win two rounds in the playoffs with this group?
Menzinger
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Keefe isn't the reason Samsonov has been the way he has. If the Leafs had a 1B with even a mildly below average sv % they'd have reversed a fair number of the losses this season.
Coaches often get overly praised when hot goalie is driving the team, but imo get overly criticized when they get sunk by a cold one
Coaches often get overly praised when hot goalie is driving the team, but imo get overly criticized when they get sunk by a cold one
Don't worry, we addressed toughness and stopped bringing in smurfs by signing 5'10 Max Domi and Ryan Reaves.
Also, any time someone brings up analytics I laugh... all teams use it, the last few cup winners have used it a lot, and not one team has used analytics exclusively. Just shows how uninformed some are.
If you want Keefe to be fired, keep praying for the Leafs to fail (I know some are already)
Hellcat
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The crowd is right for whom? While I appreciate your name sake and his wisdom, I do not agree that Herd Mentality is correct the majority of the time.
Instead of typing out why I disagree this article sums up my opinion on Herd Mentality
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Everything You Should Know About Herd Mentality
Herd mentality influences human behavior and decision making. Learn about its signs and causes, its positive and negative effects, and real-world examples of its impact.
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Herd mentality can be observed in both historical and hypothetical situations. Here are a few examples to illustrate its prevalence and impact:- Stock market bubbles: Investors may follow the crowd in purchasing overvalued stocks, leading to financial bubbles and subsequent crashes. The dot-com bubble and the housing bubble are prominent examples of how herd mentality can lead to market instability and financial losses.
- Fashion trends: People often adopt popular clothing styles and brands influenced by the preferences of the majority. The rapid adoption and subsequent abandonment of trends can have significant environmental and economic impacts, such as increased waste and financial strain on individuals.2
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- Political movements: It's common for people to follow popular opinions and ideas, even when they don't fully comprehend or support them. The rise of extremist political movements throughout history can be partially attributed to herd mentality, as people join in with the dominant group, often out of fear of being ostracized or persecuted. The rise of Nazi Germany is one such example.
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RunItBackAgain
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IMO this place is very far from having a herd mentality. That’s Reddit.The crowd is right for whom? While I appreciate your name sake and his wisdom, I do not agree that Herd Mentality is correct the majority of the time.
Instead of typing out why I disagree this article sums up my opinion on Herd Mentality
Everything You Should Know About Herd Mentality
Herd mentality influences human behavior and decision making. Learn about its signs and causes, its positive and negative effects, and real-world examples of its impact.www.verywellmind.com
What Are Examples of Herd Mentality?
Herd mentality can be observed in both historical and hypothetical situations. Here are a few examples to illustrate its prevalence and impact:
- Stock market bubbles: Investors may follow the crowd in purchasing overvalued stocks, leading to financial bubbles and subsequent crashes. The dot-com bubble and the housing bubble are prominent examples of how herd mentality can lead to market instability and financial losses.
- Fashion trends: People often adopt popular clothing styles and brands influenced by the preferences of the majority. The rapid adoption and subsequent abandonment of trends can have significant environmental and economic impacts, such as increased waste and financial strain on individuals.2
- Social media: The spread of viral content and the desire to follow popular accounts or engage with trending topics can be attributed to herd mentality. This phenomenon can create echo chambers, where people are exposed primarily to content that aligns with their existing beliefs and preferences, limiting their exposure to diverse perspectives and reinforcing existing biases.
- Political movements: It's common for people to follow popular opinions and ideas, even when they don't fully comprehend or support them. The rise of extremist political movements throughout history can be partially attributed to herd mentality, as people join in with the dominant group, often out of fear of being ostracized or persecuted. The rise of Nazi Germany is one such example.
- Panic buying: In times of crisis, people may hoard essential items out of fear, leading to shortages and further exacerbating the situation. The COVID-19 pandemic saw widespread panic buying things like toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and face masks, creating additional stress and challenges.3
I think this place is perceived like it has one because there is a group of people who whine a lot and they are the loudest, it is not very welcoming either if you don't agree with the whiners.
I think we've run polls here that don't go as planned because there are a lot of people who don't post often that have differing views.
Hellcat
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Leaf nation is very much a herd. Many people were posting that AM is the most over paid star in the league, reactionary mostly because he had a dry spell, yet for his career he is the best goal scorer of his generation and now he is on a historic goal scoring pace for December. Since 1940 no player has ever scored at the pace (goals per game) that he scored in December. Not Gretzky, not Lemieux, not Ovie, not Hull, not Howe, not Bossy, no one. We can be a bit quick to jump on the band wagon at times.
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Teams have used analytics for years, but they don’t use the same stats that get promoted by some and particularity used in July to rewrite history.
We are talking about the analytics used by teams...
People act like our previous GM only cared about those and it was unique to him, it is laughable and just dumb.
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His problem was he didn’t know how to use them, was relying too much on them, and most likely he was looking at the wrong metrics.
Granted he forced himself to scramble around like chicken with his head cut off with self-inflicted wounds.
Do you have a source about how much he was relying on them? What he was relying on? How much more he relied on it over other teams? Just any more info on this stuff.
I'd be curious to read about it.
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Are you saying the games?
I was interested in reading more about how our team used analytics and it seemed like you had some good information, but I guess not.
Weird to make claims as if they are facts when you are basing it on absolutely nothing.
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They told us they built an analytics department that was supposed to cutting edge and yet they built a team around the core that was never going to win.
Either they didn’t have an analytics department, or maybe they didn’t know what to measure, or they couldn’t interpret the data.
All we see is the results. At no point in Dubas’ tenor did most Of us believe he iced a team that could win the Cup.
So what you said above was incorrect.
This is all speculation at best.
You don't know how much he used analytics so it's weird to say they didn't work.
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Healthy scratching poor mans Tyson Barrie to get Benoit and Lagesson both in the lineup tells me Keefe is no longer an issue
