Speculation: What are the Bruins' needs?

KnightofBoston

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Can't stand Krejci's inconsistency. It's what seperates him from the truly elite players in this league. I would move him in a heartbeat for a great winger like Ryan, Perry, Iginla, etc. (even it means adding) and move seguin to center were I think he is better suited.

Well, sure. But Subban isn't on their level

What do the bruins need? For y'all to get off their back :laugh:


This team is sick
 

Artemis

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Can't stand Krejci's inconsistency. It's what seperates him from the truly elite players in this league. I would move him in a heartbeat for a great winger like Ryan, Perry, Iginla, etc. (even it means adding) and move seguin to center were I think he is better suited.

You're calling Krejci inconsistent and citing Ryan? Bobby Ryan?

Good grief. I like Ryan, but "consistent" he is not. "Ridiculously streaky" is more like it.

But hey, Krejci's a beast in the postseason, so let's get rid of him. We don't need that. At least that'll make the Flyers happy.
 

bernmeister

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I think 27 is showing that he will be going no where for a long, long time.
Agreed, that's most likely.
However, I was wondering about a deal around Stepan or Hagelin. Stepan has other pluses but Hags would be spot on for a speedy LW, one who already can be a top 6 for several teams.
It would be pure speed + for strength.

Losing Hagelin would hurt, but I see Fs to step in.
I assume even if value is fair, you would need a D to replace Hamilton. We have guys, and prospects, but not enough in abundance I could afford to add more than throw in Eminger and speedster Matt Gilroy.

So I assume no deal, unless you get a top D from somewhere.


Edit: Seguin needs a playmate. There is not one guy on the team that can skate with him and he seems to playing slow to attempt to stay in sync with his line mates. The type of player that Seguin needs would not be easy to get. A Marty St. Louis type. The kid should be owning the PP. He gets no looks and everyone knows he the only shooter out there. Bruins are gonna have to bite the bullet and spend/trade to improve.

We have a guy that fits that description: Christian Thomas, son of former NHLer Steve Thomas (mostly Leafs, Hawks). He truly has all the skills, great speed, nice shot. Problem is, he's not big.

Don't want to overvalue or give him away. Could be part of a package with Hamilton. But otherwise, not sure what works for both teams. He is boom bust and we don't want the same pick we used for him; would need some worthwhile profit upgrade, but doesn't have to be crazy.
 

bruins04

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i really thought arnott and sykora would have been signed by now. you can never have too many cup winners in your locker room... especially players with playoff experience and contribute as 3rd liners.
 

ODAAT

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Good call... both out produced Pouliot last year

Arnott was, if not mistaken, carrying almost a 3 mill cap hit and again, if not mistaken put up maybe 34 pts, 2 more than BP on a team (Blues) where that Vet leadership was/is a must. He would be ok in a Bruins uni, but the pricetag for veteran leadership, of which this team has plenty of, makes no sense.

I don`t mind Sykora though
 

The Dangly One

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You're calling Krejci inconsistent and citing Ryan? Bobby Ryan?

Good grief. I like Ryan, but "consistent" he is not. "Ridiculously streaky" is more like it.

But hey, Krejci's a beast in the postseason, so let's get rid of him. We don't need that. At least that'll make the Flyers happy.

bobby Ryan is one example and a consistent 30 goal scorer which the Bruins don't have. Krejci had an awesome postseason two years ago and that's what frustrates me. He clearly has the talent to dominate at the highest level but for some reason either takes long periods of the season off or can't consistently be on his game, which kills the Bruins at times because I feel like when the Bruins are on a roll it usually coincides with krejci being on a roll. Hes the key to the offense. You are probably wondering why I would want to trade the key to the Bruins offense. I feel like Seguin would easily step into center, his natural position better suited for him, and without a doubt match and in all likelihood exceed krejcis production easily and the Bruins would be able to add a excellent pure goal scorer
 

Artemis

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bobby Ryan is one example and a consistent 30 goal scorer which the Bruins don't have. Krejci had an awesome postseason two years ago and that's what frustrates me. He clearly has the talent to dominate at the highest level but for some reason either takes long periods of the season off or can't consistently be on his game, which kills the Bruins at times because I feel like when the Bruins are on a roll it usually coincides with krejci being on a roll. Hes the key to the offense. You are probably wondering why I would want to trade the key to the Bruins offense. I feel like Seguin would easily step into center, his natural position better suited for him, and without a doubt match and in all likelihood exceed krejcis production easily and the Bruins would be able to add a excellent pure goal scorer

Sure, Ryan scored 31 goals last year. He had 57 points. Krejci had 62. Ryan also had a stretch last in the middle of last season when he scored three goals in 15 games, and went goalless in stretches of eight, six and four games (three times). Is he a good goal-scorer when he is on? Heck yeah. Is he consistent? Heck no. He's streaky, just as many other goal-scorers are. Ducks fans were screaming about him, just as I have no doubt at all if he played for Boston, Bruins fans would scream as well. Every player has his peaks and valleys, but the grass is always greener.

There are times when I almost wish the Bruins would trade Krejci, just to hear fans moan "why can't we get guys like that?" It's amazing how this team crashed and burned without Krejci in the playoffs, then won a Stanley Cup with him as leading scorer, and fans STILL want him gone. Because he, like the majority of other NHL players, is not "consistent."
 

Oates2Neely

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hindsight: rewind to offseason,

To Columbus:
Krejci
12' 1st
(any D prospect not named Hamilton)
Knight


To Boston:
Nash

Wow is he impressive. Big, strong, shifty, Nash is a robot. Would this deal have topped the Rangers package?

Lucic Seguin Nash
Marchand Bergeron Horton
 

The Dangly One

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Sure, Ryan scored 31 goals last year. He had 57 points. Krejci had 62. Ryan also had a stretch last in the middle of last season when he scored three goals in 15 games, and went goalless in stretches of eight, six and four games (three times). Is he a good goal-scorer when he is on? Heck yeah. Is he consistent? Heck no. He's streaky, just as many other goal-scorers are. Ducks fans were screaming about him, just as I have no doubt at all if he played for Boston, Bruins fans would scream as well. Every player has his peaks and valleys, but the grass is always greener.

There are times when I almost wish the Bruins would trade Krejci, just to hear fans moan "why can't we get guys like that?" It's amazing how this team crashed and burned without Krejci in the playoffs, then won a Stanley Cup with him as leading scorer, and fans STILL want him gone. Because he, like the majority of other NHL players, is not "consistent."

The crash and burn had just as much to do with rask as losing krejci. Just as the cup had just as much to do with krejci as Thomas. Consistency is one factor, how about just flat out up grading the roster. Would you rather have krejci or say someone like Perry? I also feel like at least once or twice a season he gets lit up cause he's skating around the redline with his head down. Just don't like that aspect to his game, happened a couple times and its put him out for a while
 

MetroOpensDoors

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Sure, Ryan scored 31 goals last year. He had 57 points. Krejci had 62. Ryan also had a stretch last in the middle of last season when he scored three goals in 15 games, and went goalless in stretches of eight, six and four games (three times). Is he a good goal-scorer when he is on? Heck yeah. Is he consistent? Heck no. He's streaky, just as many other goal-scorers are. Ducks fans were screaming about him, just as I have no doubt at all if he played for Boston, Bruins fans would scream as well. Every player has his peaks and valleys, but the grass is always greener.

There are times when I almost wish the Bruins would trade Krejci, just to hear fans moan "why can't we get guys like that?" It's amazing how this team crashed and burned without Krejci in the playoffs, then won a Stanley Cup with him as leading scorer, and fans STILL want him gone. Because he, like the majority of other NHL players, is not "consistent."

I think some of this mentality comes from the lack of appreciate for subtle skills. A good friend of mine pointed out about how dominant Patrice Bergeron was on Saturday vs. the Rangers (and even Wednesday). Yet there is nothing sexy about watching a highlight reel of Bergeron winning draw after draw, or making deft poke checks or filling in lanes that frustrate and confound other teams offenses.

Goals are sexy. Points are sexy. Big glove saves are sexy. Yet without all the other little things, they don't make winning hockey. Even when Krejci isn't putting points on the board, he generally does the little things right. That's why he's valued by the Bruins. They are a system team that relies on doing the small things right. And it's a system that despite all the caterwauling has average 3 goal per game the last 5 years.
 

Shaun

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the bruins need Евге́ний Влади́мирович Ма́лкин
 

RussellmaniaKW

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for all the crying people to about Krejci not being consistent, his year to year numbers are very consistent and he has consistently performed well in the playoffs.
 

The Dangly One

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hindsight: rewind to offseason,

To Columbus:
Krejci
12' 1st
(any D prospect not named Hamilton)
Knight


To Boston:
Nash

Wow is he impressive. Big, strong, shifty, Nash is a robot. Would this deal have topped the Rangers package?

Lucic Seguin Nash
Marchand Bergeron Horton

bam! Lot a people forgot how good he is.cause he played in Columbus for a bad team
 

Artemis

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I think some of this mentality comes from the lack of appreciate for subtle skills. A good friend of mine pointed out about how dominant Patrice Bergeron was on Saturday vs. the Rangers (and even Wednesday). Yet there is nothing sexy about watching a highlight reel of Bergeron winning draw after draw, or making deft poke checks or filling in lanes that frustrate and confound other teams offenses.

Goals are sexy. Points are sexy. Big glove saves are sexy. Yet without all the other little things, they don't make winning hockey. Even when Krejci isn't putting points on the board, he generally does the little things right. That's why he's valued by the Bruins. They are a system team that relies on doing the small things right. And it's a system that despite all the caterwauling has average 3 goal per game the last 5 years.

Well said.
 

The Dangly One

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I think some of this mentality comes from the lack of appreciate for subtle skills. A good friend of mine pointed out about how dominant Patrice Bergeron was on Saturday vs. the Rangers (and even Wednesday). Yet there is nothing sexy about watching a highlight reel of Bergeron winning draw after draw, or making deft poke checks or filling in lanes that frustrate and confound other teams offenses.

Goals are sexy. Points are sexy. Big glove saves are sexy. Yet without all the other little things, they don't make winning hockey. Even when Krejci isn't putting points on the board, he generally does the little things right. That's why he's valued by the Bruins. They are a system team that relies on doing the small things right. And it's a system that despite all the caterwauling has average 3 goal per game the last 5 years.

This reads as... I know more about hockey than you, therefore I am right on this subject.

Also I would disagree on how well he does the little things. Bergeron and krejci are not even close when it comes to this. His role on the 1st line is to drive the offense and put up points/goals whether you think its sexy or not
 

Artemis

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This reads as... I know more about hockey than you, therefore I am right on this subject.

Also I would disagree on how well he does the little things. Bergeron and krejci are not even close when it comes to this. His role on the 1st line is to drive the offense and put up points/goals whether you think its sexy or not

Bergeron is the Selke winner and obviously a great defensive center, but Krejci is not purely offensive, and has garnered Selke votes himself. Everyone in the Bruins system has to play defense, and Krejci is very good at it. If he wasn't, the Bruins wouldn't value him as they do.
 

Shaun

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A Ковальчу́к-Ма́лкин-Хохлачёв line would be deadly in a few years.

Ковальчу́к's contract is an albatross but in 2014-2015 Хохлачёв - Ма́лкин - Seguin would be the best line in the league.
 

BergyWho37

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hindsight: rewind to offseason,

To Columbus:
Krejci
12' 1st
(any D prospect not named Hamilton)
Knight


To Boston:
Nash

Wow is he impressive. Big, strong, shifty, Nash is a robot. Would this deal have topped the Rangers package?

Lucic Seguin Nash
Marchand Bergeron Horton

Not a fan of trading Krech but IF I was cbj i'd take your deal ;) .... Yes Nash look real good :( Sure hope we can get Perry somehow :D
 

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