Speculation: What are the Bruins' needs?

[Lord Ahriman]

According to cap geek the bruins could add a 4 mil plus contract today and a 17 mil worth of players at the deadline. That's all before and Savard LTIR. In a trade other teams can also keep cap dollars.

It's not the real situation, because they are including bonus cushion. By the deadline we will have, if nothing goes wrong, ~$4.4M (not including Savard on LTIR).

 

[Coach Parker]

Jarome Iginla.

IF your team doesn't have him, Boston declines.

In all seriousness, a veteran leader like Recchi to play on the third line. IN a dream world it is Iginla who also comes in to help this PP. Keep your eyes on Calgary once again out west. Only one win so far and Iginla is a UFA in the summer.

 

[Alicat]

We have Horton, Ference, Rask and Khudobin all up after this season. Their current salaries:
Horton - $4 mil
Ference $2.25 mil
Rask - $3.5 mil
Khudobin - $875,000

Ideally, you bring them all back. How how much do you give them?

My numbers:
Horton - $4.5 mil
Ference $2.5 mil
Tuukka - $5 mil
Khudobin - $1.3 mil

 

[Kaoz*]

It's not the real situation, because they are including bonus cushion. By the deadline we will have, if nothing goes wrong, ~$4.4M (not including Savard on LTIR).

Sure it's a real situation. 4.4 million may be the total cap space they'll have available however guys like Iginla will be owed only approx 1/3 their current contract at the deadline as their team will have paid out 2/3rds already. 17 mill is the total of yearly salaries Boston is projected to be able to acquire at the deadline, not actual money. Boston can add Iginla because his cap hit at the deadline will not be 7million, rather it will be 2.something million. That said...

You don't include bonuses until they're hit. You plan for them as a lump sum total at the end of the season but you don't include the cushion in cap equations before hand else you skew the final totals. The max lump sum total Boston will have to plan for is Dougies number ($212,500) and Seguins (2.65mill) which equates to $2,862,500 and chances are all those bonuses won't be hit. So it will affect that final total, but not in a dramatic fashion. Come deadline the FO will have a decent idea of what bonuses will likely be hit and which ones they don't have to plan for. That 17 million total will drop because of it, but not likely that drastically.

Another factor that will likely drop that total, and will affect it more immediately will be call ups. If they bring up Caron or Krug for a few games their daily total will apply to the Bruins cap and lower that final number somewhat, though still not likely that drastically.

Boston won't be able to acquire 17 mill worth of contracts come deadline day, but 10-12 mill is very realistic and a relatively safe bet (assuming no acquisitions between then and now of course).

There's no reason to think Boston will be limited by cap space at all this year. They'll only be affected in regards to acquiring cap hits that extend beyond this year.

 

[Fire Sweeney]

Clowe and Murray

 

[patty59]

Iginla, gotta get this guy.


I guess NYR were going to sign Arnott but didn't like his physical condition. I really wouldn't mind the Bruins kicking tires on him, he's a big veteran presence and can play the PP.

 

[Kaoz*]

Iginla, gotta get this guy.


I guess NYR were going to sign Arnott but didn't like his physical condition. I really wouldn't mind the Bruins kicking tires on him, he's a big veteran presence and can play the PP.

I'd rather see NYR blow their cap space right now on a guy like Arnott honestly. It means they'll have far far less flexibility later on. Such a contract would be the difference between them being big players at the deadline or not imo.

 

[Shaun]

i'm all for rescuing Jarome Arthur-Leigh Adekunle Tig Junior Elvis Iginla from that ****** Calgary team.

 

[Gordon Lightfoot]

Clowe and Murray

I'd love Clowe here. No clue what it would take, though.

 

[bruins04]

I'd love Clowe here. No clue what it would take, though.

I would too, but with the amount of expiring contracts SJ has, it is probably better to just wait until he's a free agent and target him for next years' team

 

[PlayMakers]

I'd love Clowe here. No clue what it would take, though.

I would too but SJ would be foolish to trade him. He always looks like one of their best players in the playoffs.

I imagine he'd cost a lot as well. Everybody could use a guy like Clowe.

 

[Gordon Lightfoot]

I would too but SJ would be foolish to trade him. He always looks like one of their best players in the playoffs.

I imagine he'd cost a lot as well. Everybody could use a guy like Clowe.

Yeah, I'm sure he would. I think it was last year that SJ fans seemed like they wanted to dump him. Obviously the front office didn't agree because there were no real rumors to him being shopped.

Can you imagine Clowe & Lucic on one line? Playing the Sabres? That would be insane.

 

[ODAAT]

I would too but SJ would be foolish to trade him. He always looks like one of their best players in the playoffs.

I imagine he'd cost a lot as well. Everybody could use a guy like Clowe.

Agreed, if you look up and down that Sharks roster, he`s THE guy who has playoff type player written all over him in regards to never being worried about the guy doing anything and everything to win game in and out, love his game

 

[bernmeister]

no he gave a list of teams which was the New York Rangers, Detroit Red Wings, Pittsburgh Penguins, Boston Bruins, Philadelphia Flyers, San Jose Sharks.

You're right it was a short list.
I believe, however Rangers were his preference.

 

[bernmeister]

Thanks to all.

As I suspected there is no good offer for Hamilton to Rangers both sides consider win win.

Just wanted to be sure.

I retire this thread to all you beantowners.... peace out.

 

[Lord Ahriman]

Sure it's a real situation. 4.4 million may be the total cap space they'll have available however guys like Iginla will be owed only approx 1/3 their current contract at the deadline as their team will have paid out 2/3rds already. 17 mill is the total of yearly salaries Boston is projected to be able to acquire at the deadline, not actual money. Boston can add Iginla because his cap hit at the deadline will not be 7million, rather it will be 2.something million. That said...

You don't include bonuses until they're hit. You plan for them as a lump sum total at the end of the season but you don't include the cushion in cap equations before hand else you skew the final totals. The max lump sum total Boston will have to plan for is Dougies number ($212,500) and Seguins (2.65mill) which equates to $2,862,500 and chances are all those bonuses won't be hit. So it will affect that final total, but not in a dramatic fashion. Come deadline the FO will have a decent idea of what bonuses will likely be hit and which ones they don't have to plan for. That 17 million total will drop because of it, but not likely that drastically.

Another factor that will likely drop that total, and will affect it more immediately will be call ups. If they bring up Caron or Krug for a few games their daily total will apply to the Bruins cap and lower that final number somewhat, though still not likely that drastically.

Boston won't be able to acquire 17 mill worth of contracts come deadline day, but 10-12 mill is very realistic and a relatively safe bet (assuming no acquisitions between then and now of course).

There's no reason to think Boston will be limited by cap space at all this year. They'll only be affected in regards to acquiring cap hits that extend beyond this year.

No, it's not, Kaoz. Let's assume a full season (just for argument), our cap payroll is $68.931M (including bonuses), so we would have ~ $1.261M free cap space. Full season means 186 days and by the deadline will remain 41 days to the end. Assuming no major injuries, by the deadline the Bruins would have banked ~$0.983M, so:

0.983/41(remaining days)x186 = 4.459M

That's the real number. Of course you can add Savard LTIR and if possible trading Thomas only for cap reasons.


In your opinion you don't include bonuses, but I think that's the right call, i.e., saving that money and no having any worries about next season.

 

[PB37]

I like Ference, but I think he's going to be a cap causality unless he signs for cheaper than what he's making, which is a fair deal for what he brings.

 

[sjaustin77]

No, it's not, Kaoz. Let's assume a full season (just for argument), our cap payroll is $68.931M (including bonuses), so we would have ~ $1.261M free cap space. Full season means 186 days and by the deadline will remain 41 days to the end. Assuming no major injuries, by the deadline the Bruins would have banked ~$0.983M, so:

0.983/41(remaining days)x186 = 4.459M

That's the real number. Of course you can add Savard LTIR and if possible trading Thomas only for cap reasons.


In your opinion you don't include bonuses, but I think that's the right call, i.e., saving that money and no having any worries about next season.

This. Seguin is likely to hit all his bonuses as I believe he did last year. If you use that up you are taking $2.65M off next year's cap that is going down $6M with players like Looch, Marchand and Seguin salaries going up. I wouldn't and I'm sure Chia won't use much if any of the bonus space. What they do have is LTIR, possible trade of Thomas, and salary of player Iginla would be replacing.

I think they could add Iginla at the deadline without it hurting too much. To think they could actually add $17M without it hurting them is crazy. Technically they have that space. Realistically they don't unless they plan to lose at least 2 good players plus everyone they brought in & the assets used to get them. Getting more than 1 player of decent salary would really hurt the future of the Bruins being a serious contender because of the loss of current players, and loss of assets to acquire those high priced players.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Needs? PMD? Haaa, Dougie has single handily put a rest to all the 'PMD to Boston' threads!!

 

[Rookie Chargers]

Trade for Clowe, Purcell and Ryder, we'll be ROCK solid.

 

[DKH]

been watching Sobotka just toy with the Western Conference these past 10 days and its time to bring him back for the third line....Koko has no spot, undersized, and wont play in Providence. He's also very good friends with Tarasenko. Time to right the wrong

 

[Kovi]

I miss 'Botka.

his solidness would be great for our 3rd line

 

[vjcsmoke]

Jarome Iginla.

IF your team doesn't have him, Boston declines.

In all seriousness, a veteran leader like Recchi to play on the third line. IN a dream world it is Iginla who also comes in to help this PP. Keep your eyes on Calgary once again out west. Only one win so far and Iginla is a UFA in the summer.

Would LOVE Iginla. But very little chance of that happening.
Bruins need to fix their 3rd line and PP.
By adding Iginla, they could bump one player down to the 3rd line to improve it as well as getting rid of the 'not earning his ice time' Bourque.
Addition by subtraction.

Iginla would help the Bruins with both issues at once. Not to mention he would give them another premier scoring threat and bring more veteran experience for the playoffs.

 

[Morris Wanchuk]

been watching Sobotka just toy with the Western Conference these past 10 days and its time to bring him back for the third line....Koko has no spot, undersized, and wont play in Providence. He's also very good friends with Tarasenko. Time to right the wrong

Yea but St. Sobotka can only play center.

There is no one I miss less than that guy.. talk about overrated.

 

[Shaun]

Yea but St. Sobotka can only play center.

There is no one I miss less than that guy.. talk about overrated.

I agree 100%.