Post-Game Talk: Welcome to the Skinner Circus

[CycloneSweep]

Sure and even great defensive effort and the puck goes in the net. It happens.

But out problem is systemic. There’s no focus on awareness at the back, it’s all get it, get it out and push it up. Forwards are constantly flying the zone, and we give up on the late trailer more times than I can count. I do expect a goalie to make some saves on open chances but we’re hanging Skinner out to dry. I’d expect other goalies to have similar problems with this pourous D..

Except our d is literally NOT porous. We give up extremely few chances. How in the world is that porous.

We are an up tempo team, that plays a lot in the opposing zone. That will always tend to lead to the occasional big chance against. It’s the same reason guys with the puck the most have the most giveaways.

You remember every “porous” chance cause it ends up in the back of the net. Thats not so for other teams with good goaltending.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Tell that to the skinner poster collectors.

We apparently are only allowed to make 1-2 mistakes in a game. That's it. Don't ever expect your goalie to play great as a whole.

People act like other teams don’t make mistakes. Ours are just highlighted because they end up in the net more than half the time.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Yep stats’s don’t lie. This was a near perfect road game 5v 5. Blown

No no ask the skinner nut huggers about mistakes that only Edmonton makes apparently lol

The litmus test is swapping goalies. They are better 95% of the time than ours

 

[guymez]

Go back and see how much room Marner had a and how off balance Skinner was.

The shot was off the post.
If a shooter puts a shot off the inside of the post there isnt much a goalie can do.

 

[I am the Liquor]

If that is the case, that tells me that the team has quit on Stu and that it's a matter of time before he's out the door.

I’m no nhler but I’ve been on good teams with terrible goaltending and it is soul crushing.

 

[Gordy Elbows]

That pitiful 5 minute PP cost us the game. That was such a piss poor effort. At this rate Gulutzan may need to fall on the sword. The top unit needs something different because they have been ass.

The PP has been off since the start. Needs a tune-up because motivational speeches won’t work. Put in Brown for Nuge for starters. Give the players some structure besides “follow McD’s lead”.

 

[LTIR]

Yeah, lets add a top 4 D, and then proceed to trade a top pairing D.

Thats brilliant.

You think that one up on your own?

Top pairing D my ass is what I say.
We are winning nothing with Bouchard making 10x8.

 

[CrazyJoeDavola]

Nuge brings nothing. He needs to be off the first unit and off the top six. I would move him if there were any takers

Accountability doesn't apply to our "Pavelski". He is the most overrated player in the league. Just have him enter his Malhotra era and stick him on 4C

 

[Tobias Kahun]

First off...hopefully Nurse is okay. Very dirty hit by Reeves...suspension is in order here.

Secondly...Bouchard was completely at fault on the 2nd goal. Just an absolutely brutal play.
Then on the 3rd Leafs goal his lazy c'est la vie skating to get back on defence was brutal to watch.
Such a shame because the team was playing such a solid 3rd periord and then Bouchard happened.

Then in O/T Marner has a perfect shot off the post to win it.

Of all goals on Skinner MAYBE the 2nd goal was stoppable...maybe.
Still Bouchard just cant be that stupid with the puck. He wears the goat horns on this night.

On to Montreal.

That was only a "perfect" shot.

Because Skinner sucks and has no clue how to play the position

 

[Drivesaitl]

Sure and even great defensive effort and the puck goes in the net. It happens.

But out problem is systemic. There’s no focus on awareness at the back, it’s all get it, get it out and push it up. Forwards are constantly flying the zone, and we give up on the late trailer more times than I can count. I do expect a goalie to make some saves on open chances but we’re hanging Skinner out to dry. I’d expect other goalies to have similar problems with this pourous D.

And frankly I’m sick of using “entry denial” and winning the shot counter as an excuse to absolve poor defense.

Sorry Russ but this just isn't accurate. The Oilers were really getting a game rolling where they're hardly giving up anything and frustrating opponents by getting zone outs constantly. not allowing teams to establish in our zone. Leafs had hardly anything for first 50mins of this game and the Oilers have badly outplayed opposition last 4 games. Really felt they were getting that game going. Very reminiscent play to what had success last year.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Except our d is literally NOT porous. We give up extremely few chances. How in the world is that porous.

We are an up tempo team, that plays a lot in the opposing zone. That will always tend to lead to the occasional big chance against. It’s the same reason guys with the puck the most have the most giveaways.

You remember every “porous” chance cause it ends up in the back of the net. Thats not so for other teams with good goaltending.

There’s no excuse for that Bouchard turnover, none. That’s what is called an AHL pass. And then given an opportunity to make up for it he completely dogs a back check. No team plays perfect but efforts like that are completely unacceptable.

 

[russ99]

Except our d is literally NOT porous. We give up extremely few chances. How in the world is that porous.

We are an up tempo team, that plays a lot in the opposing zone. That will always tend to lead to the occasional big chance against. It’s the same reason guys with the puck the most have the most giveaways.

You remember every “porous” chance cause it ends up in the back of the net. Thats not so for other teams with good goaltending.

So yeah again with this all ahead full and let Fuhr bail them out at the back nonsense.

Some game situations call for that, but now it’s 3 games in a row blowing a lead, maybe just maybe you tighten up at the back late.

 

[guymez]

Top pairing D my ass is what I say.
We are winning nothing with Bouchard making 10x8.

Yup...overinflated contract incoming. Then the team will have 2 of those contracts on the back end.

 

[Cloned]

Sure and even great defensive effort and the puck goes in the net. It happens.

But out problem is systemic. There’s no focus on awareness at the back, it’s all get it, get it out and push it up. Forwards are constantly flying the zone, and we give up on the late trailer more times than I can count. I do expect a goalie to make some saves on open chances but we’re hanging Skinner out to dry. I’d expect other goalies to have similar problems with this pourous D.

And frankly I’m sick of using “entry denial” and winning the shot counter as an excuse to absolve poor defense.

I don’t think you watch enough NHL hockey this year.

Every team plays like this; most are even worse.

Not every goalie has these issues; most don’t.

 

[I am the Liquor]

Accountability doesn't apply to our "Pavelski". He is the most overrated player in the league. Just have him enter his Malhotra era and stick him on 4C

He can still contribute in a bottom six role and on the pk

 

[McFlyingV]

Go back and see how much room Marner had a and how off balance Skinner was.

Skinner was doing some weird shit where he thought taking away the short side and hoping it would hit him was the best course of action. Even he knows he sucks.

 

[Echodek]

Tell that to the skinner poster collectors.

We apparently are only allowed to make 1-2 mistakes in a game. That's it. Don't ever expect your goalie to play great as a whole.

Exactly. I hate the argument that we need to score 5+ goals a game to make our goalie look good.

 

[guymez]

That was only a "perfect" shot.

Because Skinner sucks and has no clue how to play the position

Right...because other goalies stop shots that go off the inside of the post?

 

[tardigrade81]

Top pairing D my ass is what I say.
We are winning nothing with Bouchard making 10x8.

I still think goaltending is our biggest issue

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Oilers averaging 25 shots against per game at all strenghts, 3rd best in the league. 8.41 HDCA per 60, best in the league. 76% HDSV%, 4th worst in the league. Overall all strengths SV% of 87.5, 3rd worst in the league.

Don't tell that to the guys that focus on one big mistake like Edmonton only does it

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Right...because other goalies stop shots that go off the inside of the post?

Well, most goalies stop the shot so it doesnt hit the post and go in.

Would be nice if Skinner would start doing that,

Skinners stats would be bad in the 80's.

 

[I am the Liquor]

I don’t think you watch enough NHL hockey this year. Every team plays like this, most are even worse. Not every goalie has these issues.

Not enough is being said of how bad Bouch was on goals 2 & 3. That’s some Steve Smith right there

 

[MoontoScott]

Yup...overinflated contract incoming. Then the team will have 2 of those contracts on the back end.

Up front-- Nuge (Casper) has 1 goal in 18 games? Not exactly top 6 production.

 

[MessierII]

Sorry Russ but this just isn't accurate. The Oilers were really getting a game rolling where they're hardly giving up anything and frustrating opponents by getting zone outs constantly. not allowing teams to establish in our zone. Leafs had hardly anything for first 50mins of this game and the Oilers have badly outplayed opposition last 4 games. Really felt they were getting that game going. Very reminiscent play to what had success last year.

They had a chance to put the game away in the first with a 5 min pp and got two shots. Just awful.

Fun fact for anyone knocking skinner. We’ve allowed 18 goals in the final 10 minutes of regulation this season. Most in the NHL. Some of that is goaltending sure but when it’s at the same point of the game that’s a game management issue. Perfect example tonight.

 

[I am the Liquor]

Well, most goalies stop the shot so it doesnt hit the post and go in.

Would be nice if Skinner would start doing that,

Skinners stats would be bad in the 80's.

What do you know about the 80’s