Pre-Game Talk: Week of Trade Deadline, Please Stay Crosby, Sharts, and Leaves

[expatriatedtexan]

I've seen Lindgren play. Unfortunately, I've also seen every big hitter that comes to the Avs gets neutered. Do you remember the pent up absolute rage Footer felt in his last shift? Nearly two decades of being restrained by coaches in the NHL were suddenly dropped. The refs were just too flabbergasted to actually blow a whistle and it remains to this day, my absolute favorite Avalanche moment.

 

[Valushkin]

The question I have is, how many games before Lindgren gets suspended

 

[dahrougem2]

Lindgren for a long time has reminded me of Ryan Wilson. Ironically enough, both guys try/tried to play a heavy game despite not having the size for it.

 

[Valushkin]

Lingren re-signed 3 x 3

 

[MacKaRtin]

Lingren re-signed 3 x 3

Wrong Lumbergh, I mean, Lindgren

 

[CobraAcesS]

The question I have is, how many games before Lindgren gets suspended

He's never been suspended, and he did have a hearing after the Donskoi hit.

Lindgren for a long time has reminded me of Ryan Wilson. Ironically enough, both guys try/tried to play a heavy game despite not having the size for it.

That's a good comp, let's hope he has a little more mileage left than Wilson lol.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Lindgren for a long time has reminded me of Ryan Wilson. Ironically enough, both guys try/tried to play a heavy game despite not having the size for it.

Sauce was 6’1” 210 pounds. Certainly not small.

Bro can also drink like a dehydrated dog.

 

[Gumballhead]

Lindgren for a long time has reminded me of Ryan Wilson. Ironically enough, both guys try/tried to play a heavy game despite not having the size for it.

He’s not tall, but he looks thick and rugged with his gear on. Maybe like how LOC isn’t a big guy but he has the neck of Powdered Toast Man.

 

[Harbour Dog]

Hey guys, Rangers fan just peeking in, so feel free to tell me to GTFO.

You may want to temper your expectations on Lindgren. He's never been a physical force, and he's slowed down significantly over the last couple years. It isn't an exaggeration to say that the Rangers are better just by removing him from the lineup.

I hope he turns it around with you guys; he's a warrior for sure, and will lead with whatever body part he has to to block a shot. And perhaps getting more sheltered minutes will be a godsend for him. But I suspect he's not an NHL defenseman anymore.

 

[niwotsblessing]

Hey guys, Rangers fan just peeking in, so feel free to tell me to GTFO.

You may want to temper your expectations on Lindgren. He's never been a physical force, and he's slowed down significantly over the last couple years. It isn't an exaggeration to say that the Rangers are better just by removing him from the lineup.

I hope he turns it around with you guys; he's a warrior for sure, and will lead with whatever body part he has to to block a shot. And perhaps getting more sheltered minutes will be a godsend for him. But I suspect he's not an NHL defenseman anymore.

Thanks for sharing your perspective. Our understanding is the Rags have used him on the top pair with Fox, which is not where Lindgren will play on the Avs. He's been practicing on our 3rd pair- reduced minutes, lesser competition, and so forth. I'm curious if you feel this will be a better utilization?

 

[Harbour Dog]

Thanks for sharing your perspective. Our understanding is the Rags have used him on the top pair with Fox, which is not where Lindgren will play on the Avs. He's been practicing on our 3rd pair- reduced minutes, lesser competition, and so forth. I'm curious if you feel this will be a better utilization?

Oh god yes

He was miscast in New York for nearly his entire tenure. It has definitely taken its toll on Fox's impact, and perhaps also did a disservice to Lindgren.

He's taken more punishment over the years than any player I've ever seen (save maybe for Dan Girardi), and he doesn't like spending time in the gym, so his body may also just be beat up. But if you want somebody to play a minimal role at 5v5, and happily throw his body in front of pucks on the PK, then I hope he fits in.

He's apparently a good lockerroom leader as well, but the bar is pretty low for that in New York at the moment, so I wouldn't put a lot of stock in it.

 

[obZen]

Lindgren for a long time has reminded me of Ryan Wilson. Ironically enough, both guys try/tried to play a heavy game despite not having the size for it.

What could have been...I always liked Wilson, but he just couldn't stay healthy.

 

[MaKarter]

and he doesn't like spending time in the gym

Confirmed best friends with Mitts.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[Pokecheque]

I've seen Lindgren play. Unfortunately, I've also seen every big hitter that comes to the Avs gets neutered. Do you remember the pent up absolute rage Footer felt in his last shift? Nearly two decades of being restrained by coaches in the NHL were suddenly dropped. The refs were just too flabbergasted to actually blow a whistle and it remains to this day, my absolute favorite Avalanche moment.

Foote was never restrained by the coaches. Are you kidding me? You think psychopaths like Marc Crawford and Bob Hartley didn't want guys to hit?

He completely changed his game after double shoulder surgery and basically dealing with a litany of injuries early in his career. He became a much more balanced defenseman afterward and did a lot more with the puck, what he lost in terms of physical play he gained by becoming a better all-around player. He also managed to stay on the ice a lot more. But he still brought the pain from time to time. I still remember a game where they were running the Wylde out of the building and near the end, anytime a green jersey crossed the blue line he promptly knocked them flat on their backs. It was art.

He went balls out that final shift because he DGAF about any injuries at that point, AND he knew the refs wouldn't dare call a penalty on him (not that I think he did anything truly penalty-worthy, but he was going after guys and not caring who had the puck ).

We will see what happens with Lindgren. Bednar doesn't mind physical play, he just doesn't like it outside the structure of the team. I agree that really restrains some players, but not all of them.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Foote was never restrained by the coaches. Are you kidding me? You think psychopaths like Marc Crawford and Bob Hartley didn't want guys to hit?

He completely changed his game after double shoulder surgery and basically dealing with a litany of injuries early in his career. He became a much more balanced defenseman afterward and did a lot more with the puck, what he lost in terms of physical play he gained by becoming a better all-around player. He also managed to stay on the ice a lot more. But he still brought the pain from time to time. I still remember a game where they were running the Wylde out of the building and near the end, anytime a green jersey crossed the blue line he promptly knocked them flat on their backs. It was art.

He went balls out that final shift because he DGAF about any injuries at that point, AND he knew the refs wouldn't dare call a penalty on him (not that I think he did anything truly penalty-worthy, but he was going after guys and not caring who had the puck ).

We will see what happens with Lindgren. Bednar doesn't mind physical play, he just doesn't like it outside the structure of the team. I agree that really restrains some players, but not all of them.

Foote helicoptering that guys stick with the most aggressive stick lift on his last shift is still hilarious to me

 

[Avsfan1921]

Hey guys, Rangers fan just peeking in, so feel free to tell me to GTFO.

You may want to temper your expectations on Lindgren. He's never been a physical force, and he's slowed down significantly over the last couple years. It isn't an exaggeration to say that the Rangers are better just by removing him from the lineup.

I hope he turns it around with you guys; he's a warrior for sure, and will lead with whatever body part he has to to block a shot. And perhaps getting more sheltered minutes will be a godsend for him. But I suspect he's not an NHL defenseman anymore.

That’s ok. If he doesn’t throw a hit every shift, it’ll help feed into our board’s narrative that Bednar hates hitting. We’ll all continue to freak out that Cmac and Bednar should not co-exist and don’t want the same things.

All will be right in the world.

 

[hockeyfish]

I wonder if they will give Blackwood a little break with Pitt tonight and SJ on Thursday.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[Harbour Dog]

That’s ok. If he doesn’t throw a hit every shift, it’ll help feed into our board’s narrative that Bednar hates hitting. We’ll all continue to freak out that Cmac and Bednar should not co-exist and don’t want the same things.

All will be right in the world.

In that case, Lindgren was throwing three hits per shift with the Rangers, dumped a guy into a bench at least once a week, and actually ate Tom Wilson's mouthguard at one point.

 

[Avs_19]

Uh oh. If Jesse says it's close.....

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[CobraAcesS]

I knew Kelly wasn't coming out for Vesey. Bednar was trolling us, and needed Vesey to get some time practicing the PK, but mostly trolling us because fk practicing.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Pens fan coming here with peace...

I hope your Avs absolutely annihilate the Pens and the absolute loser of a coach. I'm talking scorched earth, 10+ goals, open ice hit destruction, absolute undressing of a comically awful system kind of thing. Nate setting a record for points in a game, same for Cale for a Defenseman, etc. You know the drill.


Ps - Big fan of Nate, Necas, etc.