Buffalo Bills Week 8 -- Buffalo (5-2) @ Seahawks (4-3) Sunday 10/27, 4:05 pm, Fox

[Djp]

........the Bills could LITERALLY not afford Adams at his full salary and would have to pay THROUGH THE TEETH to get the Raiders to retain anything.

The Jets already have a legit #1 WR. This is why they're getting pilloried -- they have a legit #1, added another diva #1.....when the Jets haven't really addressed their major offensive need.

Meanwhile, the Bills had a GLARING hole at #1 WR.....Cooper is essentially on a vet-min deal.......and paid the same price.

Apples to f***ing kumquats.

To be fair

Jets pick could be a 2nd. I dont know thectrigger

 

[TehDoak]

Yes they had a need. Throwing away a 3rd for Cooper is a waste, IMO this team is not a Super Bowl contender. Even with Cooper this offense is not scary.

Eh. I don't think any people think they are the top team in the NFL. With Cooper I'd argue they are probably top 5.

KC, Baltimore, and Detroit are probably your top 3. Houston, Buffalo, Minnesota, a healthy SF team (if that ever happens) are in the 2nd tier.

We aren't a perfect team, by any means. But...you also can't throw away a season of prime Josh Allen to rebuild. I had us at 10/11 wins before, probably 11/12 wins now. If we stay relatively healthy, we just need to root for Baltimore/KC to knock each other off and take on whatever is left.

My only concern is that Josh will try to feed Amari the ball. They need to stick to the 'everyone eats' philosophy and take advantage of the trickle down effect Cooper will have on the coverage similar to Diggs last year. I also think it'll be good for Coleman to have a vet star WR to work with and pick things up from.

 

[Djp]

Yes they had a need. Throwing away a 3rd for Cooper is a waste, IMO this team is not a Super Bowl contender. Even with Cooper this offense is not scary.

I dont care as about a 3rd when they have a 1st and 2 2nds and are a deep team

They should get 2 compensatory picks in the 4th and 5th and also have Chicago's 4th along with both of their own

 

[Dubi Doo]

Yes they had a need. Throwing away a 3rd for Cooper is a waste, IMO this team is not a Super Bowl contender. Even with Cooper this offense is not scary.

I believe any offense with Allen under center is scary. Not sure how I feel giving up a 3rd rounder, though. I dont like throwing those around for players that wont be here for a couple of years, but maybe they can re-sign Cooper or get a nice comp pick if he signs elsewhere.

 

[Taro Tsujimoto]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1846282797427970057

 

[Dubi Doo]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1846282797427970057

Makes sense. Hollins has been better. He's solid depth, imo.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

dlt

 

[ValJamesDuex]

I believe any offense with Allen under center is scary. Not sure how I feel giving up a 3rd rounder, though. I dont like throwing those around for players that wont be here for a couple of years, but maybe they can re-sign Cooper or get a nice comp pick if he signs elsewhere.

The price was likely higher to get Cooper today than it would of been at the deadline so Beane paid the price. There could of also been competition for him and Jets certainly set the market a few hours earlier.

 

[Zman5778]

To be fair

Jets pick could be a 2nd. I dont know thectrigger

Adams has to be on the roster for the AFCGC or Super Bowl in order for the condition to trigger.

 

[Zman5778]

IMO this team is not a Super Bowl contender. Even with Cooper this offense is not scary.

There isn't one team out there right now that I think is the clear-cut favorite to win the Super Bowl. Right now, in my opinion, there's a group of 7-10 teams that I think have a realistic shot to win the Super Bowl with another 2 or 3 one half-step behind. IMO, we are in that group of 7-10 that have an absolutely realistic shot to win the Super Bowl this year.

Once a team gets into the playoffs, if it gets hot for 3-4 games......it wins. We KNOW, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that when this team gets hot.....the only team that beats us is ourselves. Get there and let the chips fall as they may

 

[Selanne00008]

Yes they had a need. Throwing away a 3rd for Cooper is a waste, IMO this team is not a Super Bowl contender. Even with Cooper this offense is not scary.

The Bills had WAY more of a need than the Jets at WR. They had WAY less cap room to work with. And they spent less than the jets on the acquisition.

Cooper going from Watson to JA17 is massive. But i'm not the type to yell SUPER BOWWWWLL! When the bills draft CJ Spiller in the 1st round, and nor will I do that here. Is Cooper the key to get them over the top? Probly not? Maybe? But this does help them a lot right now.

if you are so damn worried about a very late 3rd round pick , then for you, it's key to understand that we would also pick up another comp pick the following year if/when Cooper walks. Most likely a 4th rounder. So, I do not see what's not to like here at all. We have Minny's 2nd rounder and even other comp picks for Summer 2025 draft. More than we would most likely use.

Eh. I don't think any people think they are the top team in the NFL. With Cooper I'd argue they are probably top 5.

KC, Baltimore, and Detroit are probably your top 3. Houston, Buffalo, Minnesota, a healthy SF team (if that ever happens) are in the 2nd tier.

We aren't a perfect team, by any means. But...you also can't throw away a season of prime Josh Allen to rebuild. I had us at 10/11 wins before, probably 11/12 wins now. If we stay relatively healthy, we just need to root for Baltimore/KC to knock each other off and take on whatever is left.

My only concern is that Josh will try to feed Amari the ball. They need to stick to the 'everyone eats' philosophy and take advantage of the trickle down effect Cooper will have on the coverage similar to Diggs last year. I also think it'll be good for Coleman to have a vet star WR to work with and pick things up from.

Exactly. I could have just quoted this.

 

[Dubi Doo]

There isn't one team out there right now that I think is the clear-cut favorite to win the Super Bowl. Right now, in my opinion, there's a group of 7-10 teams that I think have a realistic shot to win the Super Bowl with another 2 or 3 one half-step behind. IMO, we are in that group of 7-10 that have an absolutely realistic shot to win the Super Bowl this year.

Once a team gets into the playoffs, if it gets hot for 3-4 games......it wins. We KNOW, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that when this team gets hot.....the only team that beats us is ourselves. Get there and let the chips fall as they may

It's a wild sentiment to say the Bills aren't contenders. If they're not there, then theyre a slight tier below. I mean, they BARELY lost against the Texans with significant injuries and Allen playing one of his worst games as a pro, and I think most would agree Houston can win a SB this year.

Also, this team consistently plays it's best football in Dec, so unless there are more significant injuries- I dont think we've seen the best version of this team yet.

 

[Der Jaeger]

Interesting that they went with Amari, who should do wonders to help the deep game. I was more interested in short underneath separators, but this solves the problem in a different way.

Opening up the short game: you either need elite separation skills with an accurate QB (Montana, Rice, Taylor 49ers)

Or

You need outside deep speed to open up the middle and short areas (Bills with Lofton and Beebe outside).

I would’ve kept MVS and cut another position and went with 6 receivers. He can also threaten deep but just hasn’t so far.

 

[Zman5778]

I would’ve kept MVS and cut another position and went with 6 receivers. He can also threaten deep but just hasn’t so far.

I think many/most teams are very much all in on the idea that MVS is a one-trick pony now which is why he hasn't done much of anything.

 

[stealth1]

There isn't one team out there right now that I think is the clear-cut favorite to win the Super Bowl. Right now, in my opinion, there's a group of 7-10 teams that I think have a realistic shot to win the Super Bowl with another 2 or 3 one half-step behind. IMO, we are in that group of 7-10 that have an absolutely realistic shot to win the Super Bowl this year.

Once a team gets into the playoffs, if it gets hot for 3-4 games......it wins. We KNOW, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that when this team gets hot.....the only team that beats us is ourselves. Get there and let the chips fall as they may

Up to the 13 second season I would agree. Since they haven't been anywhere as good and IMO their coach will hold them back from ever winning anything. He's a great coach for a developing team but not one that will take you to a Super Bowl.

 

[old kummelweck]

This thread seems underwhelmed by the addition of Cooper.

 

[Reddawg]

Mark Davis inherited the team from his dad and isn't a billionaire who bought his way into the NFL.

So, like teams like the Bengals, there isn't a blank check for the GM to do whatever he feels is best.

Every NFL team is getting North of $400m per season just in TV money alone. Thats before a single ticket, tshirt, jersey, beer, burger or balcony suite is sold. NFL teams should be literal printing presses for cash money.

 

[Kupo]

Yes they had a need. Throwing away a 3rd for Cooper is a waste, IMO this team is not a Super Bowl contender. Even with Cooper this offense is not scary.

Cooper will open space for Shakir, Kincaid, Coleman, and Cook. We actually have a deep ball threat that will open up the middle of the field. And we got him for very little. We just drafted 10 players. We'll have 3 picks in the top 64 next draft. 2 4ths, 2 6th's, plus the comp picks from Davis, Floyd, and as mentioned, Cooper.

 

[buffalowing88]

This thread seems underwhelmed by the addition of Cooper.

He wasn't my first or second choice on the market in terms of fit but it sounds like it'll just be a rental unless he hits it off with Allen. He's a good WR and should attract attention off Shakir/Coleman in particular. I just don't think he's going to be like the second coming of Diggs or anything.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

This thread seems underwhelmed by the addition of Cooper.

Not the way I have seen it, in fact many here were calling for him over Adams to begin with.

 

[SundherDome]

Ray Davis was a waste?

Twas tongue in cheek as people keep getting mad he drafts rbs in round 3

 

[ValJamesDuex]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1846284145648947531

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https://x.com/i/web/status/1846278278337691946

 

[TehDoak]

Every NFL team is getting North of $400m per season just in TV money alone. Thats before a single ticket, tshirt, jersey, beer, burger or balcony suite is sold. NFL teams should be literal printing presses for cash money.

Just because a guy owns a team doesn't mean he's good with money.

For my hate on Pegula with the Sabres, they seem content with the Bills spending what they bring in and aren't reliant on the Bills income. For the Raiders, Spending 15M to get a slightly better draft pick likely means 15M out of his pocket directly.

 

[zenthusiast]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1846284145648947531

https://x.com/i/web/status/1846262019823178040

https://x.com/i/web/status/1846283350656319492

https://x.com/i/web/status/1846275083246895458

https://x.com/i/web/status/1846255916343058706

Pointless addition, MVS might be the most ASS receiver in the league

 

[WeDislikeEich]