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Some of this is sample size and competition. The Rams and Titans had top 10 run defenses last year, Miami was just outside the top 10.
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Some of this is sample size and competition. The Rams and Titans had top 10 run defenses last year, Miami was just outside the top 10.
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Joe B has always been a skill position guy, but you're right - I forgot about Joe D, he also has no respect for line play. That being said, Joe B may focus more on the o-line during the season with his all-22 breakdowns, but come draft time he is always beating the table for offensive playmakers. I remember him pounding the table for Spiller back when we already had Lynch and Jackson. Last year he mocked Breece Hall and Calvin Austin in the first two rounds.
In general I agree with a lot of your points - line play is a problem around the league, Brown hasn't been good, Saffold hasn't been good, I think our depth guys are at the same level as all depth guys around the league.
All that being said, we've played three of the tougher defenses in the league and have racked up a ton of yards, Brown is still getting back into shape after back surgery, and hopefully Saffold will get better with more time in this offense. So we could have a very different outlook on this unit in a month or two.
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That particular youtube account is a pure clickbait account. Should watch the video, instead of reading the headline.
Ahhhhh f*** me. I thought Ian Rapoport was reporting that. Only watched 1/2 the video. My bad.
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The NFL never overturns a win.
The most the Bills would get is a "We are sorry" letter from the NFL.
The Dolphins could get in trouble if they put Tua back in the game with a head injury. That is why they are trying to sell it as a back injury.
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This exactly. If Miami is found to have violated protocol, the coaches will be fined and/or suspended and then the organization will be fined (again) and docked draft picks (again).
Bills get a "Miami screwed up, but there's nothing we can do about it" letter.
The rest of the league laughs that Miami got caught doing bullshit AGAIN and nothing changes at all.
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Being honest, I've done the drunk stumble after tweaking my back.
However, I've not done the drunk stumble AND shaken my head 3 times in rapid succession.
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if you hurt your back, you instinctively reach for it immediately. when you watch the tua clip he never does that once. he shakes his head to get the cobwebs out.
the tua back injury explanation as to why he stumbled and was off balance is an insult to every person with two working eyes and a baseline grasp of common sense. it's a ludicrous farce that i can't believe any journalist was able to report with a straight face.
the tua back injury explanation as to why he stumbled and was off balance is an insult to every person with two working eyes and a baseline grasp of common sense. it's a ludicrous farce that i can't believe any journalist was able to report with a straight face.
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I've collapsed to the ground once without warning (i.e., hadn't tweaked / strained anything until something just fired in my back).
But it was a legit collapse like I'd been shot, not a stumble/shuffle.
And I was 20-25 years older than Tua and with a history of back issues.
What's peculiar is the initial report from Dolphins was he was being evaluated for head injury (makes sense).
Then, they reported it was a back injury when he returned. (While possible, it's suspicious as all hell.)
My wife said still later the Dolphins claimed it was a foot injury that made him stumble. (Can anyone else corroborate?)
Highly suspect by Tua / Dolphins.
But it was a legit collapse like I'd been shot, not a stumble/shuffle.
And I was 20-25 years older than Tua and with a history of back issues.
What's peculiar is the initial report from Dolphins was he was being evaluated for head injury (makes sense).
Then, they reported it was a back injury when he returned. (While possible, it's suspicious as all hell.)
My wife said still later the Dolphins claimed it was a foot injury that made him stumble. (Can anyone else corroborate?)
Plus, he clearly grabbed his helmet. I know it's instinctive to grab your helmet if you're coming off the field, but not if you've hurt your back, ribs, etc., and he clearly wasn't grabbing it to remove it.
Highly suspect by Tua / Dolphins.
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What I completely fail to understand is that there are supposedly unbiased medical observers watching the game from on high and are supposed to flag anyone with signs of a concussion.
How in the holy hell did these supposedly unbiased observers yield to the Dolphins' explanation of back pain? Tua slammed his head backwards into the ground, shook his head repeatedly and then stumbled. That is classic concussion symptoms and should have basically DQed him for the rest of the game.
So either the unbiased observers are powerless (which is obviously a problem) or not really unbiased (which is obviously a problem).
Tua playing is the least of our worries. We should have beat them regardless. They scored 21 points.
Any update on Dane Jackson? With Benford out, his status could be the difference between winning and losing.
Any update on Dane Jackson? With Benford out, his status could be the difference between winning and losing.
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I don't necessarily care that Tua stayed in the game. Honestly, it probably improved the Bills' chances of winning if anything, because the guy was clearly concussed. But, I do care that the Dolphins' management think people, in this day and age, are this... naive. It's just insulting.
To add to everyone's already perfectly valid points, the Miami Dolphins are saying that a back injury led to his stumbling. And as far as I know, which is admittedly very little, the only thing that could really account for a temporary loss of motor control would be some kind of nerve damage.
So, what did their medical staff do to support this claim that it was a back injury? Once they found presumably nothing of real concern related to his back, hence why Tua was allowed to return to the game, how do they not revisit the original concern that Tua had sustained a concussion? Did they do their due diligence? Did they even care to, given the team's now very public pursuits of Tom Brady and Deshaun Watson?
You would think with all the cameras firmly locked in on that particular play and its end result, with all that is know about concussions and brain-related trauma, with all the class-action suits surrounding concussions and its link to CTE, with all the drama surrounding Miami's ownership group in general, you would think there would have been a radically heightened level of sensitivity towards doing the right thing in the publics' eyes.
Me personally? I don't know how you get to a place where you'd feel comfortable putting him back in there. And, I'm just a fan. I don't have any skin in the game. The NFLPA, and their lawyers very much do, and I personally believe they will not pass this opportunity up, if it helps paint NFL's leadership like a bunch of assholes. Again.
Should be interesting to say the least.
To add to everyone's already perfectly valid points, the Miami Dolphins are saying that a back injury led to his stumbling. And as far as I know, which is admittedly very little, the only thing that could really account for a temporary loss of motor control would be some kind of nerve damage.
So, what did their medical staff do to support this claim that it was a back injury? Once they found presumably nothing of real concern related to his back, hence why Tua was allowed to return to the game, how do they not revisit the original concern that Tua had sustained a concussion? Did they do their due diligence? Did they even care to, given the team's now very public pursuits of Tom Brady and Deshaun Watson?
You would think with all the cameras firmly locked in on that particular play and its end result, with all that is know about concussions and brain-related trauma, with all the class-action suits surrounding concussions and its link to CTE, with all the drama surrounding Miami's ownership group in general, you would think there would have been a radically heightened level of sensitivity towards doing the right thing in the publics' eyes.
Me personally? I don't know how you get to a place where you'd feel comfortable putting him back in there. And, I'm just a fan. I don't have any skin in the game. The NFLPA, and their lawyers very much do, and I personally believe they will not pass this opportunity up, if it helps paint NFL's leadership like a bunch of assholes. Again.
Should be interesting to say the least.
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It is this for me. The team even tweeted that it was a head injury. Then you add in that the league "puts player safety, especially head injuries first and foremost" and that Ian Rapoport tweeted the garbage about the back injury all just come off as BS to me. I've seen/heard some people in sports journalism say that Ian should be embarrassed for tweeting what he did. I remember I posted a tweet during the game from a doctor who started a concussion institute that there was no way Tua should be in the game. It just takes away a lot of credibility from the Dolphins and the league.
Even if the NFLPA wins the complaint/case they filed, it will most likely just be a fine, which the owner of the Dolphins can easily afford and will do little to detour future things like this by other teams.
Edit to add this that I just saw, not related to the Tua situation.
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Haven’t been this pumped for signing a former Colt pro bowl CB since Vontae Davis!
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I hope this one turns out one half as good
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Interesting that he could potentially play safety as well.
When healthy the secondary should be quite good.
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Lets hope they can find a offensive lineman or two. Looks like Daryl Williams has semi retired. Bills run block grades are bottom of the league so Kromer has a lot of work to do.
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