Buffalo Bills Week 15: Buffalo (10-3) at Detroit (12-1), 12/15, 4:25 PM, CBS

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It is bonkers just how nuclear Allen went on Sunday in LA.
Watching him play, it was like he was tiers above how he played in his two BEST playoff appearances (The Perfect Game vs NE, and then the 13-Seconds game). That's a scary thought.
 
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From the sound of it, Elam is way deep in the doghouse.



I hope they just cut the kid or find a trading partner for anything. He was never going to excel in a zone scheme to begin with. By all accounts he's a good guy who has handled all of this stuff in a pretty classy way but if he's a square peg and McDermott's system is a round hole, it's insane to keep trying to make it work and prevent him from getting reps.
 

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I hope they just cut the kid or find a trading partner for anything. He was never going to excel in a zone scheme to begin with. By all accounts he's a good guy who has handled all of this stuff in a pretty classy way but if he's a square peg and McDermott's system is a round hole, it's insane to keep trying to make it work and prevent him from getting reps.
Truly the only time I've said "what the absolute f*** are you doing" to someone Beane drafted, and it's basically played out exactly as everyone expected... Feel bad for the guy at this point (as much as one can for a millionaire sideline-warmer)
 
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Truly the only time I've said "what the absolute f*** are you doing" to someone Beane drafted, and it's basically played out exactly as everyone expected... Feel bad for the guy at this point (as much as one can for a millionaire sideline-warmer)
I'm guessing it was just an overreaction to the Chiefs game a few months prior but yeah, not his finest draft pick.
 

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I'm guessing it was just an overreaction to the Chiefs game a few months prior but yeah, not his finest draft pick.

To be fair the only boundary corner they had on the roster at the time was Dane Jackson. I don't think they counted Siran Neal (more a nickel, STer), and Cam Lewis (again more a nickel/safety hybrid STer). Tre was still recovering from his ACL tear, and Levi Wallace got paid by the Steelers.

It was probably a bit of a panic move, but a glaring legitimate need as well.
 
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I think the Bills will go with Cooper and Coleman, with Shakir in the slot, and that's going to be hard for teams to defend. None of them is a true burner deep threat, but coving any of them 1v1 is not going to work. Cooper and Coleman are man coverage beaters. Shakir gets loose in zones. Kincaid can get open against zone as well.
I honestly think Shakir is by far the most important receiver on the team. He's just that safety-net guy, something like Amon-Ra St. Brown with the Lions.
Shakir lines up in the slot more than St. Brown, but Lions use St. Brown more in the red zone. Other than that, there's quite a few similarities.

I don't think it's a coincidence that Josh's (BY FAR) worst game came vs Texans, when Shakir wasn't available (and it was that game IMO, not the Jets game after it, that made them move for Cooper sooner rather than later).

But overall, seeing as how they just played for a few weeks with no Kincaid or Keon, and Cooper missing a game too, I'm not worried about the offense (even with the run game hitting a wall vs the Rams).

I think the team is gonna live and die by how the run defense performs.
Secondary has been good, but living off turnovers is always gonna be more volatile than just pure, hard stops.

Detroit game will be a good test. Their defense is absolutely mauled with injuries, but their offense is almost fully healthy. Best O line in the game, best pair of RBs, complementary WRs and Goff.

(to be clear, I think a healthy Lions team is easily the best and most balanced roster in the league, ahead of the Eagles. They don't have an alien playing QB like Bills or Chiefs, but the rest of their team - when healthy - is amazing)
 
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Detroit is going to score points, it doesn't matter how good any defense is. ONE team held them to below 20 points (week 2 TB), much like only 1 team has held the Bills to below 20 points.
 

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Congratulations, North Carolina. You managed to hire someone completely unqualified to be your next football coach. You did that thing so many schools do where they try to win the press conference instead of win football games. It rarely works.

I realize I may get excommunicated from the football world for daring to question the merits of a six-time Super Bowl champion coach. But let’s remove the name Bill Belichick and replace it with Coach X. Here is who North Carolina just hired:

• Coach X has never coached a day in college football. He has never recruited an athlete. He has never had to deal with the transfer portal or NIL collectives. His dad was a college coach, at Navy, but that was 35 years ago.

• Coach X is known for being grumpy and introverted, two traits that don’t often go hand in hand with wooing recruits, glad-handing donors and giving motivational talks to 18- to 22-year-olds.

• Coach X made his first post on Instagram — which he referred to as Instaface at the time — on Sept. 4 of this year. He has since posted eight more times. He may not realize that many college athletes, particularly recruits, communicate primarily via social media.

• And Coach X is 72 years old, just one year younger than the guy he’s replacing, Mack Brown, as well as his buddy Nick Saban, who got out of coaching this year at least in part because, as he said at the time, “When you get to 72 years old, it gets harder and harder to promise people you’re gonna be there for four or five more years.”

But Coach X does have those Super Bowl rings. Which he’ll surely wear when he meets with recruits and potential transfers. Who will then say something to the effect of, “That’s great, but how much am I getting paid?”

Unless Belichick can magically restore eligibility for Tom Brady, I fail to see how this will end well. I’ve seen this movie so many times before: Big-name NFL coach comes to town vowing to turn the program into an NFL organization in college.

Bill Callahan and his master plan to scrap Nebraska’s famed triple-option offense for the West Coast offense.

Charlie Weis and his “decided schematic advantage” at Notre Dame.

Herm Edwards and his vaunted “new leadership model” at Arizona State.

Lovie Smith, with no discernible plan of any kind at Illinois.

Inevitably, school and coach soon realize that what works in the NFL doesn’t necessarily work in college. (And vice versa.) And yet … they just keep falling for it.
 

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So, in talking about the Lions game, I think our defense is going to play MUCH better. I don't think they'll be able to shut down the Lions, obviously, but I think they will be able get them off the field. I think the offense takes a step back to, unfortunately. Adding Coleman and Kincaid will help, I just think Allen isn't going to be stupidly hot for the rest of the season.

I'm predicting a bills win though. 27-24 with us kicking the field goal to seal the game as time runs out. Goff has multiple INTs and Allen has 1 in an otherwise solid game. This is a game that could easily run away either way though. If Buffalo's offense fails to get going early, this could become like the Ravens game. On the flip side, if Buffalo gets some early stops and their offense IS going, Detroit could become one dimensional and not be able to get back into the game.

I think it'll be a big statement win and probably the final nail securing Josh's MVP.

Also I hope the Browns do us a huge favor and put the 1 seed back into play.
 
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I'm predicting a bills win though. 27-24 with us kicking the field goal to seal the game as time runs out. Goff has multiple INTs and Allen has 1 in an otherwise solid game. This is a game that could easily run away either way though.

This is just a mild poking fun at you and the way you worded this:

"Well, this could be a close game......or this could be a runaway either way". Gee, thanks.

I do appreciate the chuckle it gave me this morning.
 
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This is just a mild poking fun at you and the way you worded this:

"Well, this could be a close game......or this could be a runaway either way". Gee, thanks.

I do appreciate the chuckle it gave me this morning.

I think we see a better defensive effort, but I've also seen enough bad from this defense vs the best offense in the league, it could get ugly quick.

More word salad for your entertainment
 
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