Buffalo Bills Week 15: Buffalo (10-3) at Detroit (12-1), 12/15, 4:25 PM, CBS

[Der Jaeger]

Parsons would be a great addition, but I can't see anyway Dallas lets him go. Top pass rushers in the prime of their careers don't grow on trees.

Depending on how the rest of the season plays out, I'd make Dallas an offer to offset the loss.

I'd use the Khalil Mack trade as the basis. Chicago traded Mack to San Diego for 2 x 1sts, a 3rd, and got back a 2nd and a 7th (after the pick conditions settled).

So, if we use that as an outline, Buffalo sends Dallas:

2025 1st
2026 1st
2026 3rd

Buffalo gets:

Parsons
2027 2nd
2028 7th

Dallas needs a hard reset. A lot harder than what Buffalo went through this off-season. They've got $20M available this next off-season. Moving Parsons would give them around $44M. That's a huge pot of money to reset, with the draft picks to affect the reset.

For this to happen though, Parsons would need to verbalize to Jerry Jones that he's not re-signing, and that they'll have to franchise him to keep him after 2026. That's a huge bill for Dallas. That type of bill would not allow Dallas to reset.

Lots of ifs and maybes, but it's possible for both sides. As a small aside, I'd ask for Hunter Luepke in the deal as well instead of the 7th. Buffalo could use a short yardage hammer type of runner.

 

[Der Jaeger]

Depending on how the rest of the season plays out, I'd make Dallas an offer to offset the loss.

I'd use the Khalil Mack trade as the basis. Chicago traded Mack to San Diego for 2 x 1sts, a 3rd, and got back a 2nd and a 7th (after the pick conditions settled).

So, if we use that as an outline, Buffalo sends Dallas:

2025 1st
2026 1st
2026 3rd

Buffalo gets:

Parsons
2027 2nd
2028 7th

Dallas needs a hard reset. A lot harder than what Buffalo went through this off-season. They've got $20M available this next off-season. Moving Parsons would give them around $44M. That's a huge pot of money to reset, with the draft picks to affect the reset.

For this to happen though, Parsons would need to verbalize to Jerry Jones that he's not re-signing, and that they'll have to franchise him to keep him after 2026. That's a huge bill for Dallas. That type of bill would not allow Dallas to reset.

Lots of ifs and maybes, but it's possible for both sides. As a small aside, I'd ask for Hunter Luepke in the deal as well instead of the 7th. Buffalo could use a short yardage hammer type of runner.

Messing around on Over the Cap. If Buffalo designates Miller as a post-June 1st cut, restructures Milano and Knox, they fit Parsons this offseason with $15.9M in cap space. Enough for draft picks and some minor additions.

 

[Dubi Doo]

Just to kind of put a bit of a bow on the Rams game, thanks to ESPN.com:

Turning the page to NFL Week 15: Are the Eagles legit contenders? Can the Rams actually make some noise?

Is Philly's run-heavy approach sustainable? Is this defense for real? Let's dive into the Eagles' identity, the Rams' outlook and big Week 14 trends.

www.espn.com

that's an interesting tidbit of information regarding big o lines. Doesn't bode well for the playoffs. Oliver regressing really sucks. Rousseau is solid, but he's far from a game wrecker, and I've noticed he struggles a lot getting by chip blocks from TEs. Bernard and Milano looked pretty bad from what I saw. I feel like it didn't matter who the CBs were that game. Nacua was a man possessed. Some of those catches were eye popping.

 

[misterchainsaw]

We seem to have a strange habit of getting gashed by the run in the first half and cleaning it up in the 2nd. It'd be nice to contain the run all game for a change

And hopefully Milano gets back into game shape/gets his instincts back over the next 4 games, because he hasn't been good.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

that's an interesting tidbit of information regarding big o lines. Doesn't bode well for the playoffs. Oliver regressing really sucks. Rousseau is solid, but he's far from a game wrecker, and I've noticed he struggles a lot getting by chip blocks from TEs. Bernard and Milano looked pretty bad from what I saw. I feel like it didn't matter who the CBs were that game. Nacua was a man possessed. Some of those catches were eye popping.

The Rams really bounced Rousseau around.

 

[Jim Bob]

I don't think I'd cost all those players. Moving on from Von Miller frees up a lot of space right off the bat. Douglas is probably gone. But they'd make a tough choice on someone like Knox or Milano before moving on from Rousseau, Benford, Shakir, or Benard.

Looking at Spotrac, it'd be tight for 2025 but Miller's contract out helps a lot. Most of the other contracts they'd need to get out of are 2026 outs, which is when Parsons would need a new contract.

Edwards, Cooper and Douglas are up after this year.

Groot is on a 5th year option next year,

But, they have a lot of guys entering the last year of their deal in 2025 that they will want to extend in Bernard, Shakir, Benford, and maybe Cook. That 2022 draft class was really good and they are all up after next season.

There is already a lot of talk with guys like Greg Tompsett and Joe Marino that locking up their guys will be the primary focus this upcoming offseason.

I just would be surprised if they add a big money guy like Parsons from the outside with all of their guys that need new deals.

And there is a 0% chance that Beane trades multiple 1st round picks for one guy.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

Edwards, Cooper and Douglas are up after this year.

Groot is on a 5th year option next year,

But, they have a lot of guys entering the last year of their deal in 2025 that they will want to extend in Bernard, Shakir, Benford, and maybe Cook. That 2022 draft class was really good and they are all up after next season.

There is already a lot of talk with guys like Greg Tompsett and Joe Marino that locking up their guys will be the primary focus this upcoming offseason.

I just would be surprised if they add a big money guy like Parsons from the outside with all of their guys that need new deals.

And there is a 0% chance that Beane trades multiple 1st round picks for one guy.

If they move on from Von (which I expect) would anyone take Khalil Mack on a 1-2 deal at 34yo ? Not a great fit in this D though maybe ?

 

[buffalowing88]

If they move on from Von (which I expect) would anyone take Khalil Mack on a 1-2 deal at 34yo ? Not a great fit in this D though maybe ?

I love Mack but I want no part of a veteran d-man if there's any expectation on him beforehand.

 

[Zman5778]

But, they have a lot of guys entering the last year of their deal in 2025 that they will want to extend in Bernard, Shakir, Benford, and maybe Cook. That 2022 draft class was really good and they are all up after next season.

I'm really wondering if they actually want to extend Bernard. He's kinda sorta the other side of the coin to Tremaine Edmunds -- Bernard is excellent at the splashy big plays, but often kinda "meh" or worse on routine plays.

I wonder if maybe we go into 2025 with Milano and Bernard as the LBs, then go with Milano and Williams in 2026 and draft someone this offseason or next to ostensibly replace Williams in 2027 (or maybe both if we don't re-up Milano and have 2 LBs in 2027 that aren't currently on the roster).

Shakir and Benford seem like no-brainer extensions, and they're going to be high money. They're both going to get 8-figure average deals....the big question is will either's deal start with a 2 on average.

Personally, I like the ideal of drafting a LB high-ish (2nd/3rd/4th round) in both this year and next. 2025 will be Milano and Bernard....2026 will be Milano and 2025 draftee, then 2027 will be 2025 and 2026 draftees.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

That's Diggs territory now, going to be interesting how they use Coleman.

 

[misterchainsaw]

That's Diggs territory now, going to be interesting how they use Coleman.

It's one game where we ran 6 called runs to the running backs and were missing our other outside receiver. I wouldn't read too much into it. Obviously Cooper's a great receiver, and his chemistry with Josh will only get better, but there's plenty of room for Coleman to get his too.

 

[NotABadPeriod]

That's Diggs territory now, going to be interesting how they use Coleman.

I think it's more a function of game script than anything else. We weren't very effective running the ball so we let Josh be Josh, which means a lot more targets to WRs than normal. I wouldn't be surprised if next week Cooper gets 6 targets, for example. Or perhaps he gets 16 in a shootout, who knows.

 

[Dubi Doo]

I'm really wondering if they actually want to extend Bernard. He's kinda sorta the other side of the coin to Tremaine Edmunds -- Bernard is excellent at the splashy big plays, but often kinda "meh" or worse on routine plays.

I wonder if maybe we go into 2025 with Milano and Bernard as the LBs, then go with Milano and Williams in 2026 and draft someone this offseason or next to ostensibly replace Williams in 2027 (or maybe both if we don't re-up Milano and have 2 LBs in 2027 that aren't currently on the roster).

Shakir and Benford seem like no-brainer extensions, and they're going to be high money. They're both going to get 8-figure average deals....the big question is will either's deal start with a 2 on average.

Personally, I like the ideal of drafting a LB high-ish (2nd/3rd/4th round) in both this year and next. 2025 will be Milano and Bernard....2026 will be Milano and 2025 draftee, then 2027 will be 2025 and 2026 draftees.

I need to see how Milano ends the year. He's looking rusty, and I hope it's not because he's toast.

I 100% agree on Bernard. I said earlier in the year he has probowl potential, but man, it seems like he cant hold down the middle of the field against the run like Edmunds could. It appears to the untrained eye that he's not great against the run, but someone who pays closer attention can confirm that.

 

[Corto]

I need to see how Milano ends the year. He's looking rusty, and I hope it's not because he's toast.

He's hardly played football for 2 years, rust is understandable.

The offense looks good even without Kincaid and Keon, but the defense was a mess vs the Rams.

Any game the Bills fell behind in this season, the defense could never get it going (Ravens, Rams, and Texans first half... though second half was better there).

I am trying to console myself with the fact it was Nacua ruining them, and he's lowkey a top-3 receiver in the league IMO (with Chase and JJ).
That combination of size, skill and speed is intimidating.

 

[Jim Bob]

I'm really wondering if they actually want to extend Bernard. He's kinda sorta the other side of the coin to Tremaine Edmunds -- Bernard is excellent at the splashy big plays, but often kinda "meh" or worse on routine plays.

I wonder if maybe we go into 2025 with Milano and Bernard as the LBs, then go with Milano and Williams in 2026 and draft someone this offseason or next to ostensibly replace Williams in 2027 (or maybe both if we don't re-up Milano and have 2 LBs in 2027 that aren't currently on the roster).

Shakir and Benford seem like no-brainer extensions, and they're going to be high money. They're both going to get 8-figure average deals....the big question is will either's deal start with a 2 on average.

Personally, I like the ideal of drafting a LB high-ish (2nd/3rd/4th round) in both this year and next. 2025 will be Milano and Bernard....2026 will be Milano and 2025 draftee, then 2027 will be 2025 and 2026 draftees.

Given that they have two guys with the C on their jersey this season and one of then is Bernard, I will not be surprised if he is extended beyond his rookie deal.

They will have tough choices to make. But, unless Bernard wants to get to FA to maximize his next deal, I am expecting that they figure something out.

What will be really interesting is can they keep these day 2 and day 3 draftees that haven't had healthy rookie deals with the cap space they will have to work with.

I need to see how Milano ends the year. He's looking rusty, and I hope it's not because he's toast.

I 100% agree on Bernard. I said earlier in the year he has probowl potential, but man, it seems like he cant hold down the middle of the field against the run like Edmunds could. It appears to the untrained eye that he's not great against the run, but someone who pays closer attention can confirm that.

Bernard, and most MLBs, have their play against the run heavily influenced by the play of their DTs in front of them.

Bernard has looked worse against the run this year with Oliver, Jones, and the rest of the DTs not playing as well as they have in the past.

MLBs need their DL to keep them clean just like RBs need their OL to open holes.

 

[Jim Bob]

If they move on from Von (which I expect) would anyone take Khalil Mack on a 1-2 deal at 34yo ? Not a great fit in this D though maybe ?

Mack has gone from amazing last year to mediocre this year.

I would have similar expectations for Mack as for Von in 2025. So, I don't see the point of bringing Mack in at this point.

 

[Jim Bob]

NFL MVP odds: It’s Josh Allen’s world and Barkley, Goff, Jackson, Mahomes just living in it

Josh Allen is looking uncatchable in the MVP odds. Other risers and fallers tell the story of the season so far.

www.nytimes.com

Allen’s odds improved after Week 14, despite the Buffalo Bills losing 44-42 to the Los Angeles Rams in one of the year’s best games.

In Week 13, fresh off the heels of proposing to actress and singer Hailee Steinfeld, Allen had a once-in-a-lifetime performance, becoming the first quarterback in league history to record a passing, rushing and receiving score in the same game. He followed that up with more history in Week 14, achieving the best fantasy football QB performance ever. That’s right, EVER. To find the second-best performance behind Allen’s 51.88 fantasy points, you have to go back over six decades.

Allen went 22-of-37 for 342 yards and three touchdowns and led the rushing attack with 82 yards and, yes, three more visits to the end zone. More history for you: Allen became the first player in league history to tally three scores each through the air and on the ground in the same game.

It is bonkers just how nuclear Allen went on Sunday in LA.

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[sabresfan129103]

Looks like Terry sold a minority stake in the Bills to 10 different people. There were rumors of this because he didn't have the cash to cover the additional $200 million needed for the stadium. New minority owners include Vince Carter and Tracy Mcgrady.

 

[WeDislikeEich]

Josh Allen Has Forever Changed Buffalo, On and Off the Field

The Bills’ QB is Sports Illustrated’s NFL Player of the Year, not just for his MVP-worthy output, but for his tangible contributions to the city of Buffalo.

www.si.com

Josh Allen is sports illustrated player of the year.

 

[Jim Bob]

Looks like Terry sold a minority stake in the Bills to 10 different people. There were rumors of this because he didn't have the cash to cover the additional $200 million needed for the stadium. New minority owners include Vince Carter and Tracy Mcgrady.

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Jim Bob]

If Kincaid and Coleman are back and Rapp and Douglas are out, hammer the over for Sunday.

 

[Der Jaeger]

That's Diggs territory now, going to be interesting how they use Coleman.

It's one game where we ran 6 called runs to the running backs and were missing our other outside receiver. I wouldn't read too much into it. Obviously Cooper's a great receiver, and his chemistry with Josh will only get better, but there's plenty of room for Coleman to get his too.

I think the Bills will go with Cooper and Coleman, with Shakir in the slot, and that's going to be hard for teams to defend. None of them is a true burner deep threat, but coving any of them 1v1 is not going to work. Cooper and Coleman are man coverage beaters. Shakir gets loose in zones. Kincaid can get open against zone as well.

I know Allen threw a lot downfield against the Rams, but it was mostly to the X and the Y. He had a lot of shorter passes. This offense is creeping toward horizontal timing as the base system under Brady, and it's working. And these receivers are perfect for that system.

As an aside, messing with the Over the Cap cap calculator for 2025. If Beane cuts Miller post-June 1st, and re-structures Milano and Knox, he's in amazing shape going forward.

 

[Zman5778]

If Kincaid and Coleman are back and Rapp and Douglas are out, hammer the over for Sunday.

At least maybe possibly this will force McBabich to play Elam and start Bishop.