I think the next 3 years, while Hughes is still under contract, are probably the Canucks’ best shot at getting a cup. I think it’s more likely they try to trade their upcoming 1st’s+ to land immediate help over Lekk and Willander though. But all depends on what they’re looking for as certain players will require top prospects as part of a deal.
Miller certainly needs to be elite for at least 3 more yrs because of the Canucks dead cap from the OEL buyout. After that if Miller is making 8 mil and scoring 75 points thats by no means a back breaker. They'll need others to step up internally or find some help via trade FA but ya I don't see a necessary fall off just because Miller doesn't put up 90+.
Yup I'd agree on Lekkerimaki. I don't see any scenario where he makes the big club out of camp. We have too many quality fwds. And to be fair that is ideal for his development to play in the AHL, get PP1 and big role.
St. Louis would be the exception, who won on the back of a Bergeron-esque performance by O'Reilly in addition to their elite defense and a lightning-in-a-bottle showing by an otherwise mediocre goaltender in Binnington. But Vegas had Eichel and Stone, who both qualify as star forwards. Eichel put up a 97 point pace in the playoffs and Stone at a 90 point pace. They've had their injury issues which have prevented them from putting up elite regular season numbers but there's no doubt they were that caliber of player in their Cup run.
JT can play for 4 to 5 more years imo. He seems solid and dude is in shape, definitely a tank. In 5 years, Canucks will hopefully have developed a top 6 center to replace him as Petersson will cement his place as the number 1 C for the team and Lekker develops into a top 6 forward. Keeping JT, Pettersson, Boeser, Lekker, Garland, Joshua, DeBrusk, Hughes, Hronek, Wallinder, Pettersson (D), Demko and Silovs is key to contending imo. Pending how Wallinder, Pettersson and Lekker pan out could determine how far this team will go. If they all turn out great, Canucks could be the favourites in the next 2 to 3 years.
But they have pretty decent defensive prospects in Wallinder and Pettersson. They need to groom them to become top 4 Ds in 2 to 3 years time and I think that would be a good timeline to compete when all 3 prospects are still on ELC.
"Decent" doesn't win Cups. If Miller declines, the Canucks forward group looks like Pettersson (a legit Cup-caliber star) and a bunch of second liners. Still a legit playoff team, but not a contender.
Toronto tried doing that with Sandin and Liljegren. While both are NHLers now they basically wasted 5+ years of their main core waiting instead of going all in for that win now piece. Expecting them to be bonafide top 4 guys before the age of 25 is very wishful thinking.
Since trade proposals involving prospects, almost always turn into a pissing match with selling teams having no clue about the actual prospect which in this thread it seems a few flames fans not all are just talking out of their ass, how about a 2025 1st and a 2025 2nd for Rasmus? Basically the same trade that was for Hronek but to compensate for the picks likely being near the end of the rounds, the 2nd turns into a 2027 first if the nucks reach the WCF?
Andersson is worth more than that. Chychrun got a high 1st and 2 mid 2nds.
This just in...in order to win the cup you need players to play well!
Every team in the league has holes. The Canucks holes right now are they need one more legit top 3 dman. Other than that you'd have to nit pick maybe that 3c isn't super strong but who knows how Suter will play and how things will shake out.
To be fair. Chychrun had more value at the time of that trade than Andersson currently does. He was younger and coming off a bigger season. Hronek is a decent comparable for Andersson.
Huh? He only played 36 games that season before he was traded. Also unlike Andersson he is a LD, not a RD. Saying Chychrun had moved value is silly
I disagree with that. Missing a top 4 D and maybe 3C better than blueger is not "too many holes". What are the other holes? Even that 3C i mentioned is not a need due to chemistry of the 3rd line which only leaves us with a missing 4th D. If anything, Oilers seem to have more holes now than Canucks and major ones too like a number goalie and top 4D yet considered favorites to win a cup.
Chychrun was 24 with 3 yrs left at 4.6 mil. He had paced 60 points in a season, 25+ goals in a season. He had some injury issues granted but there was value in the upside.
No real comment on value, but Andersson has frequently been a top 10 defensive D in the league analytically. Chychrun has never ever been in the top 50. Andersson is a much better player. It would be like saying Lindholm and Kuzmenko have similar value.
Calling him 24 when his birthday was later that month is a bit of a stretch Andersson is still 27 yet you are counting him as 28 so a bit hypocritical no? Yes he had 3 years left vs 2 but he also demanded a trade which hurts his trade value. Not to mention he had quite an extensive injury history so even though he was younger it was not at all a guarantee he would play.
Really, what data are you using for that? I kinda just considered him an ok defender, nothing special but can hold his own. Maybe capable of more, especially than he showed this last yr.
He's 30 yrs old he hasn't exactly hit the steep part of the aging curve
