Sam Slick*
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I see Kostka as another offensive defenseman on a team thats full of them, we need someone else besides Gunnar to think about defense.
Not true if that player can play good defense too.
I see Kostka as another offensive defenseman on a team thats full of them, we need someone else besides Gunnar to think about defense.
I hope Carlyle has been scouting players like Holzer, Ranger and Franson because he won't have much time to evaluate players with a shortened camp.
Will probably carry 7 to start the season anyways. Do you have a guy like Fraser be the 7th where he can suit up against tougher opponents?
Will Franson be signed?
Does Rielly get a look to start the season?
Lots of questions. Looking forward to the answers
...If we have any 3 combination of Fraser, Kostka, Ranger, Holzer, we are in big trouble.
I find this thread sad. I agree Ranger should be signed. But the thought that we "need" him is depressing.
He hasn't played NHL hockey in over three seasons and was only average-slightly above average when he did play.
He's nice to have for sure but certainly should not be a "need" for any team with plans on making the playoffs.
We didn't "need" him when we had Schenn and Franson, But both are aren't going to be here(Franson may sign) so their absence will mean we need another defense needs to be brought in.
I've been fortunate to see a large portion of Ranger's games for the Marlies and from my viewings he's proving to me he's far too good for that league. He's strong as an OX, has a booming shot and could contribute on the PP, And also for a guy 6'3 he skate very well. He's everything you'd want in a modern defenseman.
It may sound bad to say we need or should sign a guy who's been off for 3 years, But I really do think this is a special case.
I agree with everything you're saying.
My point is the only reason he's become a "special case" for us is because we're so bad. That's what makes it depressing.
Franson spent most of last season as our number seven. Now he's considered a lock. I've heard the names Fraser and Kostka thrown around for our defence. This is going to be bad. We're going in the wrong direction.
I agree with everything you're saying.
My point is the only reason he's become a "special case" for us is because we're so bad. That's what makes it depressing.
Franson spent most of last season as our number seven. Now he's considered a lock. I've heard the names Fraser and Kostka thrown around for our defence. This is going to be bad. We're going in the wrong direction.
I find this thread sad. I agree Ranger should be signed. But the thought that we "need" him is depressing.
He hasn't played NHL hockey in over three seasons and was only average-slightly above average when he did play.
He's nice to have for sure but certainly should not be a "need" for any team with plans on making the playoffs.
I agree with everything you're saying.
My point is the only reason he's become a "special case" for us is because we're so bad. That's what makes it depressing.
Franson spent most of last season as our number seven. Now he's considered a lock. I've heard the names Fraser and Kostka thrown around for our defence. This is going to be bad. We're going in the wrong direction.
I'll say this. If we go into the season with 3 or 4 AHL D men, we will NOT be making a push for the playoffs, we will be making a push for Mackinnon.
If we have any 3 combination of Fraser, Kostka, Ranger, Holzer, we are in big trouble.
calling ranger an AHL defenseman is idiotic.
Ranger was a top-pair shutdown defensive defenseman in the NHL at ages 23-25.
I find this thread sad. I agree Ranger should be signed. But the thought that we "need" him is depressing.
He hasn't played NHL hockey in over three seasons and was only average-slightly above average when he did play.
He's nice to have for sure but certainly should not be a "need" for any team with plans on making the playoffs.
Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but Ranger would need to clear waivers first.
Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but Ranger would need to clear waivers first.
calling ranger an AHL defenseman is idiotic.
Ranger was a top-pair shutdown defensive defenseman in the NHL at ages 23-25.
Really? Tell me this then smart guy, where does Ranger currently play?
And, I said any combination of those 4 listed. Did I say he sucked? NO!!
And furthermore, what has he done for the NHL lately?
I fully expect him to do ok, but if you think he is a game changer at the NHL level, they you sir....are a typical leaf fan.
I think Ranger will make this team, not sure about his contract. I heard its AHL only and would become a free agent if he wanted to go to the NHL, Leafs would hope he is loyal. NOt sure how accurate that is. Saying that I believe he will make this team out of training camp if he is there. I think he can elevate his game further than the AHL player u see. His conditioning is extremely high, that helps him maintain a nice pace of play. I think he could replace Gunnarsson in a heartbeat. Koska and Holzer should get looks too. Lets be honest the LEafs D isnt very good. David Broll and Morgan Reilly will be at camp.
Phaneuf-Gardiner
Reilly-Ranger
Holzer-Liles
Franson 7th man(if he comes back)
Komasarek hopefully fishing in Algonquin park?