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BHawks77 said:
Those are all just placeholders until prospects are ready!! Wouldnt read too much on them!!
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Those placeholders are supposed to make life easier for some prospects by eating up harder matchups, instead it's the opposite...they're the passengers who need someone better to carry them 5v5. So everyone is thrown to the wolves.


If you told me every young guy on the team was 23 years old and said "who looks like they've been in the organization the longest versus the shortest?"

I'd tell you a few of the guys who have been under the Hawks the longest are the new guys because they look more lost on the ice than this year's new additions who are the same age or younger. That should embarrass the coaches & development team running the show.

In fact, it's not unfair to be worried about how the new guys will look next year under the same brass.
 
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Wouldn’t call Foligno, Dickinson, Donato, Mikheyev, Teravainen, Bertuzzi disasters. They basically are what they were supposed to be without requiring big commitments. That’s just not much of a “core” but you wouldn’t expect them to be. Couple whiffs in re-signing Athanasiou and signing Brodie.
 
Malagahawks said:
Whoa, what a terrible slide in effort, attitude, or just dedication it has been the last few games! The off season and 2025/26 can't arrive soon enough. KD has to right this ship soon and find the right coach to get a consistent effort out of the roster night after night. It's gotten really bad and it's just more of the same rot, rinse & repeat.

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Donato was the worst F on the ice. I’m
Guessing that meeting room didn’t have a mirror?
 
Backyard Hockey said:
Carle or Sullivan

Only concern is carle has 3 kids under 5. Might not be ready for the commitment of the NHL season for a couple years
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I get that but he did College full seasons plus Team USA world Juniors as far as time constraints. This would be a huge financial jump for him
 
the game last night was not good, but there are some positives compared to last season.
1) we will have a new and hopefully better coach then who we started the year with.
2) for the most part the young guys have looked like NHL players. LEV, Moore, dach, slaggerty, Del M, KK, nazar, allen,Crev. I think we feel like our goalie situation is as good as its been since we lost crawford. We have 5 1sts and 7 seconds in the next 3 drafts. We will have a top 4 pick and it feels like this draft falls off quick compared to 2024. last year there were some guys taken 7-12 that could have gone much higher. We cut our goal differential down by over a 1/3. we have Roster flexibility with only TT and Bert signed after next year for players over 25. we still should have thompson, James, greene, lardis misiak coming into the AHL next year. Boisvert, mustard, spellacy pridham all had very good years and vanacker was ok but was hurt for the off season and first part of the year. I like more of what KD has done then many but he did not have alot of options. I give him a B. I try not to look at picks as much as who would I take over who we did. I look at were would they go if we did a redraft and for the most part they are right in the mix when you factor all the picks. this off season is big for him. New Coach and 1st time we may try and give out long term deals to UFA's and trade assets for things other then futures.
 
BHFAN92 said:
I get that but he did College full seasons plus Team USA world Juniors as far as time constraints. This would be a huge financial jump for him
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Yep. Just going by what announcers were saying on the tourney broadcast. My guess is they chatted about it with him. But yep. Get that paper!
 
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deytookerjaabs said:
Those placeholders are supposed to make life easier for some prospects by eating up harder matchups, instead it's the opposite...they're the passengers who need someone better to carry them 5v5. So everyone is thrown to the wolves.


If you told me every young guy on the team was 23 years old and said "who looks like they've been in the organization the longest versus the shortest?"

I'd tell you a few of the guys who have been under the Hawks the longest are the new guys because they look more lost on the ice than this year's new additions who are the same age or younger. That should embarrass the coaches & development team running the show.

In fact, it's not unfair to be worried about how the new guys will look next year under the same brass.
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Not all prospects were ready at the start of season so veterans filled in, as the prospect mature veterans get slotted down on lines. Normal progress!! You dont want to throw prospects to the wolfs!!
 
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Whoever is the next coach has to instill some battle in the players. Last night was an example of how soft play in your end results in losses. Too many one handed swipes from players and no determination to win board battles. Vets and young players all were bad. I can understand the young players still learning but it’s inexcusable from the vets. TT was the direct result of a weak play in the zone.

It doesn’t matter what system they play if they don’t have the strength and determination to fight for the puck in your zone.
 
Kevin Musto said:
Hawks need a proven winner, not another Jeremy Colliton
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ummm.....ya this isnt the hot take you think it is.

David Carle resume:
David Carle is in his seventh season as the Richard and Kitzia Goodman Hockey Head Coach in 2024-25 after being named to the position on May 25, 2018. The ninth head coach in program history, Carle has led the Pioneers to five NCAA Tournament appearances, three Frozen Four berths and the 2022 and 2024 NCAA National Championship in his first six campaigns behind the bench. Denver’s national championship victory in 2024 was the program’s 10th in its 75-year history and set the NCAA record for the most-ever by a college hockey team.

At the time of his hire at DU, Carle was youngest head coach in NCAA Division I men’s ice hockey at age 28. He became the fourth-youngest coach in history to win a D-I national title in 2022 (32 years, 5 months, 0 days) and is the youngest ever to win two national championships following the Pioneers’ victory in 2024 (34 years, 5 months, 4 days). He is the 20th coach in NCAA history to win multiple national championships and the first to do so since Scott Sandelin of Minnesota Duluth (2011, 2018, 2019).

In his six years at the helm of the program, Carle has led Denver to a 148-62-16 overall record and a 68-41-11 mark in National Collegiate Hockey Conference play. The Pioneers won their third NCHC Frozen Faceoff Championship and Carle’s first in 2024 following back-to-back campaigns where DU captured the conference’s Penrose Cup as regular-season champions (2021-22, 2022-23).
Carle, 34, was also the head coach of the United States National Junior Team in 2024 during the Americans’ run to a sixth gold medal in the last 20 years at IIHF World Junior Championship. In his debut for USA Hockey behind the bench in Gothenburg, Sweden, Carle became the third NCHC head coach to lead the U.S. to gold at the World Juniors, joining former St. Cloud coach Bob Motzko (2017) and North Dakota and Omaha coach Dean Blais (2010 with Omaha). He was just the second Denver bench boss to lead the U.S. World Junior squad, joining Marshall Johnston in 1977. He will return to his role as the USA head coach at the 2025 tournament in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.



In what world is that anywhere near comparable to Jeremy Coliton???????
 
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Backyard Hockey said:
Yep. Just going by what announcers were saying on the tourney broadcast. My guess is they chatted about it with him. But yep. Get that paper!
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also the the way the NCAA is now we guys being able to come and go consistently it probably is more of a time commitment then years a few years ago. Rosters are going to turn over year to year a lot more then in the past. Jr Canadian leagues can now goto ncaa and players can transfer from team to team without sitting out. in college he is coach and GM. it shows he made $721K Blackhawks could offer a 5 year deal at $20mil.
 
You cant go with another first time coach given how the last 4 coaches have been.

It just sucks there isn’t a more obvious proven NHL coach who is your guy, but you still need to go down that road regardless.

Bedard is enough proof that we need an experienced NHL coach.
 
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I love Davidsons’ cap dump trades

Toronto
PMrazek AND a 1st(SRinzel) for a 2nd(FMinten)

Vancouver
JDickinson AND a 2nd for RStillman

Ottawa
NZaitsev AND a 2nd(RKantserov) AND a 4th 2026 for future considerations

NYIslanders
JBailey AND a 2nd 2026 for future considerations

Vancouver(again)
IMikheyev, SLafferty AND a 2nd 2027 for a 4th 2027

Utah
SWeber AND VSoderstrom AND ARaty for a 5th 2026

Great asset grabbing trades
 
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Mrfenn92 said:
He’s not colliton
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Colliton was rushed and I'm not sure why.
He had two good years and 4-5 mediocre to poor years as a head coach in the Swedish 2nd division (Allsvenskan) and then in the AHL.

Nothing pointed to him being ready to take over the Blackhawks.
Still puzzles me to this day.



Carle has been brewing in the NCAA for a long time. Has a record of success and was an assistant under Jim Montgomery (winner) before taking over at Denver.
If he's anything like Montgomery, Hawks would be very lucky to land him.
 
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The fact that Pittsburgh did not move any of their core pieces might suggest that they plan to relieve Sullivan of his duties and try one more coach with that group before blowing it up...I keep thinking it would make sense that Q will go to Pittsburgh to coach that group and see if he can turn it around, Mike Sullivan comes to the Hawks...that would be the ideal situation
 
Ace Card Bedard said:
Colliton was rushed and I'm not sure why.
He had two good years and 4-5 mediocre to poor years as a head coach in the Swedish 2nd division (Allsvenskan) and then in the AHL.

Nothing pointed to him being ready to take over the Blackhawks.
Still puzzles me to this day.



Carle has been brewing in the NCAA for a long time. Has a record of success and was an assistant under Jim Montgomery (winner) before taking over at Denver.
If he's anything like Montgomery, Hawks would be very lucky to land him.
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Im fearful either Boston or Pittsburgh is going to land Carle
 
I am not sure Carle has the resume to lean on these kids. And by resume I mean NHL winning resume.
 
Putt Pirate said:
I am not sure Carle has the resume to lean on these kids. And by resume I mean NHL winning resume.
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I don’t think I’d be mad if they decided to go this route but I’d rather have someone with NHL experience.
 
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