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I want this former Hawk as the next head coach ...

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13 of the 121 youngest players to appear in the NHL this season are with the Hawks (10.7 %). We'll have to see what the youth movement holds, but you hope there's a foundation there. It also means you aren't exactly built to win right now.
 
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Deputy McRizzy said:
It just sucks there isn’t a more obvious proven NHL coach who is your guy, but you still need to go down that road regardless.
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I agree that the Hawks need a veteran coach. You can't go with 4 straight first-time NHL coaches and bank on the fifth time being the charm.

But also keep in mind by the end of the season there will be more options available as coaches are let go or just decide it's time to move on.
 
i'm still operating on the understanding that carle doesn't want to take on a rebuild as his first nhl job unless i've missed some crucial piece of information since that chatter was reported.
 
statswatcher said:
i'm still operating on the understanding that carle doesn't want to take on a rebuild as his first nhl job unless i've missed some crucial piece of information since that chatter was reported.
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I’m not sure how many better situations are going to be available.

He can take on a rebuild that’s likely on the upswing like the Hawks. Or he can try a New York Rangers or Boston Bruins who are hanging on to relevancy for dear life and likely need a rebuild in two to three years. In one of those situations, he’s all but guaranteed to be fired.
 
BHFAN92 said:
ummm.....ya this isnt the hot take you think it is.

David Carle resume:
David Carle is in his seventh season as the Richard and Kitzia Goodman Hockey Head Coach in 2024-25 after being named to the position on May 25, 2018. The ninth head coach in program history, Carle has led the Pioneers to five NCAA Tournament appearances, three Frozen Four berths and the 2022 and 2024 NCAA National Championship in his first six campaigns behind the bench. Denver’s national championship victory in 2024 was the program’s 10th in its 75-year history and set the NCAA record for the most-ever by a college hockey team.

At the time of his hire at DU, Carle was youngest head coach in NCAA Division I men’s ice hockey at age 28. He became the fourth-youngest coach in history to win a D-I national title in 2022 (32 years, 5 months, 0 days) and is the youngest ever to win two national championships following the Pioneers’ victory in 2024 (34 years, 5 months, 4 days). He is the 20th coach in NCAA history to win multiple national championships and the first to do so since Scott Sandelin of Minnesota Duluth (2011, 2018, 2019).

In his six years at the helm of the program, Carle has led Denver to a 148-62-16 overall record and a 68-41-11 mark in National Collegiate Hockey Conference play. The Pioneers won their third NCHC Frozen Faceoff Championship and Carle’s first in 2024 following back-to-back campaigns where DU captured the conference’s Penrose Cup as regular-season champions (2021-22, 2022-23).
Carle, 34, was also the head coach of the United States National Junior Team in 2024 during the Americans’ run to a sixth gold medal in the last 20 years at IIHF World Junior Championship. In his debut for USA Hockey behind the bench in Gothenburg, Sweden, Carle became the third NCHC head coach to lead the U.S. to gold at the World Juniors, joining former St. Cloud coach Bob Motzko (2017) and North Dakota and Omaha coach Dean Blais (2010 with Omaha). He was just the second Denver bench boss to lead the U.S. World Junior squad, joining Marshall Johnston in 1977. He will return to his role as the USA head coach at the 2025 tournament in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.



In what world is that anywhere near comparable to Jeremy Coliton???????
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For real Carle has basically done everything he possibly could at the lower levels now. Dude is going to get hired by someone and it may as well be us if Pittsburgh doesn’t fire Sullivan
 
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ColbyChaos said:
Carle is far from a Colliton that is a bad hyperbole even for you.

If it’s not Sullivan go for Carle.

Last we need is to be another stop for the usual suspects on the coaching carousel of bad coaches (Torts, AV, Laviolette, Tochett, etc)
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Carle is Colliton until he isn't. If Kyle wants to stake his career on him, so be it.

Sullivan isn't Colliton. He isn't Richardson. He isn't Sorenson. He's a proven commodity.
 
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Kevin Musto said:
Carle is Colliton until he isn't. If Kyle wants to stake his career on him, so be it.

Sullivan isn't Colliton. He isn't Richardson. He isn't Sorenson. He's a proven commodity.
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Besides the obvious candidate of Sullivan there really isn’t a proven coach at this point unless you want to bank on a has been like one of the names I listed above
 
vegarover said:
I agree that the Hawks need a veteran coach. You can't go with 4 straight first-time NHL coaches and bank on the fifth time being the charm.

But also keep in mind by the end of the season there will be more options available as coaches are let go or just decide it's time to move on.
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Sorensen is interim. He doesn’t count.
 
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Kevin Musto said:
I want Sullivan.

Until he's completely off the table, Carle shouldn't be considered for the position.
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That’s fair and I understand that but in the off chance that Pit retains Sullivan which reports are that the team execs absolutely love him I’m just not sure they fire him. Pens fans may want him fired for getting stale and their poor finish this year but the team is also just bad with little to no young talent to build around besides Rutger.
 
Plenty of examples in college football and basketball where successful NCAA coaches don’t become good pro coaches, no? This roster is too amateur as it is. We need a proven winner and someone who has experience in order to have a successful rebuild.

NCAA =\= NHL

Sullivan’s 2016 Penguins were one of the best teams post lockout and they were FAST. He coached Crosby and Malkin, I trust him to handle Bedard.
 
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Carles seems too high risk for me right now. I think a more experienced coach could be as likely to payoff
 
TLEH said:
Montgomery came from the same program and has had success. I understand the apprehension for sure .. and I wouldn't be interested in any other first timers, but Carle is different, atleast for me.
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I am all for Sullivan, but if that is not going to happen, I want Carle. All the other re-tread coaches being mentioned are nothing to get excited about.
 
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TLEH said:
Yeah, Sullivan isn't getting fired but I would be all in if he randomly did.
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They've missed the playoffs 3 years in a row. Do they just run it back a 4th time with that group? They should be calling up Q and see if he can turn it around. They're due for a coaching change, he's been there forever.

This is me trying to rationalize him getting fired in a few weeks so the Hawks can swoop in and land him.
 
Toews2Bickell said:
They've missed the playoffs 3 years in a row. Do they just run it back a 4th time with that group? They should be calling up Q and see if he can turn it around. They're due for a coaching change, he's been there forever.

This is me trying to rationalize him getting fired in a few weeks so the Hawks can swoop in and land him.
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No coach is bringing that team to the playoffs.
 
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