We have a GM problem

[BobbyJet]

On the surface it looks to me like Florida has done the best job at a re-build. Kudos to their GM, Zito.

Of course, it can't go unnoticed that Dale Tallon was the GM before Zito ... again...... just like he was in Chicago. Coincidence?

 

[ColbyChaos]

Try substituting "sabres" for "lost and rudderless franchise for more than a decade" if that helps.

Jesus f’ing Christ I’ve had more intelligent conversations with a shoe in place of you.

Lost and rudderless for more than a decade.

10 years ago was 2015

More than a decade is our teams cup window. So we were lost and rudderless while winning cups? You want to sensationalize every post you make by saying we are the Sabres (a team who hasn’t made the playoffs since Bedard was 5 years old).

Directionless is the idiot plan you think is the way to build a team that would have the team mediocre forever and never even be in position to get Bedard…

 

[WarriorofTime]

Florida was the "Sabres" before the Sabres

10 straight seasons with missed playoffs (over 11 years)
fluked winning a bad division in 2011-12
missed 3 more seasons

 

[hockeydoug]

WPG never rebuilt, STL never rebuilt, CAR never rebuilt...like what? So your plan to rebuild, is to not rebuild? Seems like a solid plan. There's a difference between retool and rebuild, only team you mentioned was Philly who did a rebuild, and yay for them, they are now stuck in mediocrity.

How do you know Boston does all the important things well, when they have never had to enter a rebuild?

WPG rebuilt the entire thing from Atlanta, business and hockey ops.

A rebuild is alot more than just players. That's the disconnect I think.

Boston has maintained continuity at the head and president spot for more than 2 decades aligning everything they do with where they think the league will be. Plenty of hiccups year to year but they haven't been distracted by noise since the 90s. The accidental 3 1st round draft picks in a row was about as dumb as it gets, but they quickly righted the ship after a bad couple of years because they stay focused long term for example

 

[hockeydoug]

Jesus f’ing Christ I’ve had more intelligent conversations with a shoe in place of you.

Lost and rudderless for more than a decade.

10 years ago was 2015

More than a decade is our teams cup window. So we were lost and rudderless while winning cups? You want to sensationalize every post you make by saying we are the Sabres (a team who hasn’t made the playoffs since Bedard was 5 years old).

Directionless is the idiot plan you think is the way to build a team that would have the team mediocre forever and never even be in position to get Bedard…

Don't worry, it's not a conversation since you don't bother reading, make stuff up and just take stuff out of context.

The whole rudderless/sabres thing was based on an "if" management was completely inept or "if" they don't adjust (which I've said since summer I think started to do) but people like to give themselves wedgies or something I guess, and go straight to trolling.

The "rebuild" started when KD was given the keys and interim tag, that was day 1. The stuff before is a different topic and irrelevant.

 

[hockeydoug]

On the surface it looks to me like Florida has done the best job at a re-build. Kudos to their GM, Zito.

Of course, it can't go unnoticed that Dale Tallon was the GM before Zito ... again...... just like he was in Chicago. Coincidence?

Exactly, Tallon.

A gm with a plan to just acquire talent and then add and had no clue what or if his hockey ops dept could do anything well when he started a firesale for picks. Ownership gave him the keys and got out of the way. So he wasted what, 2,3,5 extra years fumbling through money and players and rookie coaches?

28 picks in 3 years and 8 in the top 50 in 2, lots of talent lost and misplaced in all the noise of a draft focused rebuild when the franchise didn't know if they could draft well or develop. Good ownership situation and pretty good resource allocation for the market even though they didn't have Chicago's affiliate advantage. New unproven coaches. It was a bad design with lots of similarities unfortunately.

Not sure what's so offensive for pointing out current management started a complete teardown and draft focused rebuild without knowing what they were good and bad at especially when it came to drafting and developing.

 

[Pez68]

Dale Tallon did more to build Las Vegas than Florida. Facts.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Not sure what's so offensive for pointing out current management started a complete teardown and draft focused rebuild without knowing what they were good and bad at especially when it came to drafting and developing.

I’ve read this five times and have no idea what this is supposed to mean or what the proposed correct course of action is supposed to be, if not a “draft-focused rebuild” from a team if they determine they are “bad at drafting and development”