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Just so people don't think I am coming across as Mr Super Immunity I will share this.

I still get the occaisional sore throat or stuffed up sniffles. I am one of the lucky ones where a high pollen count can give me anxiety. However I can't recall the last time I had a full blown cold or fever because I do the following.

Vitamins daily: C, Saw Palmetto, Msm, D3, Zinc, Multi, N acetyl-cysteine.
One table spoon of Apple Cider Vinegar a day (this stuff is amazing for so many things)
Excericise 5 times a week.

Everyones bodies are different and some need more than others. All I do know is the above three things I listed above can benefit all.
 
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i got it one time. never again. i got it in 2013 because my daughter was just born. ended up with a blood clot behind my knee a month later.

I got it once around the same time. Was sick in bed for three days, 103 degree fever, chills, sweats, the worst I've ever felt. My PCP asked just the other day if I wanted one, then said "Oh wait, no you don't" after looking at my chart.
 

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I usually get the flu shot but only if there is enough serum to go around, sometimes there isn't. My thinking is there is someone out there more vulnerable to it than I am (age, health etc). Although now that I'm 60 maybe it is time to get it every year no matter what.

I'm on the fence about another COVID shot. I had the original shot and a booster. Luckily I never got it before or after the shots. I wish the drug companies had been able to use live COVID to make the vaccines, I am uneasy about them using mRNA.
 
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NeelyDan's Friday Five:

1. You have been angry many times. Is there anything you still have that you can't shake off? An incident long ago that you still can think about and over which you can become angry? Tell us about it.
2. Tell us about something that surprised you in the last six months
3. Hey, look, you've had a baby boy! What will you name him?
4. If you had a time machine, and could witness any one event without altering or disturbing it, what would you want to see?
5. What words make you cringe?
 
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NeelyDan's Friday Five:

1. You have been angry many times. Is there anything you still have that you can't shake off? An incident long ago that you still can think about and over which you can become angry? Tell us about it.

Can’t , Id break no politics rule and have to ban myself.
2. Tell us about something that surprised you in the last six months

my daughter getting engaged. Didnt think it would happen. Very happy about it.
3. Hey, look, you've had a baby boy! What will you name him?

Been there, done that. First was Connor. Then second was Matthew. I was over ruled on both by the Bride. First I wanted as Cameron but that rhymed with our last name. Rejected.
The second time we had twins Matthew & Sarah. I wanted Phil and Lil because I got a kick outta the Rug Rats. Severely rejected.

4. If you had a time machine, and could witness any one event without altering or disturbing it, what would you want to see?

Jesus Christ



5. What words make you cringe?

Literally, irregardless, woke, boomer
 

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NeelyDan's Friday Five:

1. You have been angry many times. Is there anything you still have that you can't shake off? An incident long ago that you still can think about and over which you can become angry? Tell us about it.
2. Tell us about something that surprised you in the last six months
3. Hey, look, you've had a baby boy! What will you name him?
4. If you had a time machine, and could witness any one event without altering or disturbing it, what would you want to see?
5. What words make you cringe?

1. Had a boss who accused me of racism, which anyone who knows me would say the exact opposite. He'd been out to get me for years and HR was particularly sensitive to this. I'll never be over it, for good reason.
2. How painful sciatica can be.
3. Carter Thomas, after my grandfather, Thomas Carter (long story why it's reversed).
4. July 4th 1976, The Roundhouse, London UK (Google it).
5. Any IT buzzword used incorrectly; "Agile", "Scrum", "Threshold", "Data Points". I'm cringing just writing them.
 
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Has anyone else ever found a potentially massive work problem at like 5 PM in the afternoon and then the entire night you're stressed out waiting for a response to your email about it and thinking you're going to get fired but then you get in in the morning and everything is alright?

Not fun
 

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1. Yes there is one and only one incident I can't forgive. It's about 98 % there. It is too personal to discuss.
2. Coming back from my sister's almost paralyzed with back spasms, hip pain etc.

3. Alexander....nothing to do with Ovie. I just like the name.

4. Kennedy Assassination even if I can't change it.

5. irregardless, can you do me a favor.
 

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NeelyDan's Friday Five:

1. You have been angry many times. Is there anything you still have that you can't shake off? An incident long ago that you still can think about and over which you can become angry? Tell us about it.
2. Tell us about something that surprised you in the last six months
3. Hey, look, you've had a baby boy! What will you name him?
4. If you had a time machine, and could witness any one event without altering or disturbing it, what would you want to see?
5. What words make you cringe?

1. This break up. I seen the signs and ignored stuff for years hoping it would get better. Mad at myself and mad at her. Im angry at the current state of the word.

2. This break up lol. Surprising. Switching to a better job thats been better for my mental state

3. Dont want to talk about this next

4. D-Day
 

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NeelyDan's Friday Five:

1. You have been angry many times. Is there anything you still have that you can't shake off? An incident long ago that you still can think about and over which you can become angry? Tell us about it.
2. Tell us about something that surprised you in the last six months
3. Hey, look, you've had a baby boy! What will you name him?
4. If you had a time machine, and could witness any one event without altering or disturbing it, what would you want to see?
5. What words make you cringe?

1. I try not to hold grudges. It's not worth it, life is too short. That said, there's something that rhymes with Moe v Cade that truly pisses me off, but no politics.

2. Traveling is great and fun, but just like anything, travel in excess is overwhelming.

3. Patrick, after my grandmother (Patricia)

4. I'm fascinated by the WWII era, so probably that.

5. Moist. Folks. Panties. "I did a thing". "In my _____era".
 

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5. Any IT buzzword used incorrectly; "Agile", "Scrum", "Threshold", "Data Points". I'm cringing just writing them.
What’s funny is as I was reading your response a colleague asked me “if I’m travelling with that body of work” and I legit laughed

1. I try not to hold grudges. It's not worth it, life is too short. That said, there's something that rhymes with Moe v Cade that truly pisses me off, but no politics.

2. Traveling is great and fun, but just like anything, travel in excess is overwhelming.

3. Patrick, after my grandmother (Patricia)

4. I'm fascinated by the WWII era, so probably that.

5. Moist. Folks. Panties. "I did a thing". "In my _____era".
Panties is legit awful lmao
 

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What’s funny is as I was reading your response a colleague asked me “if I’m travelling with that body of work” and I legit laughed

I work with a guy we call "Captain Buzzword". He's legit never taken a coding class in his life, but he claims to be an expert. Every meeting he attends, my team is texting each other, trying to guess what the completely misused "buzzword of the day" is going to be. Winner gets a free coffee.

The last doozy he came up with is "agile", as in "We can't do a written spec or FRD, we need to be agile". :biglaugh:
 
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1. You have been angry many times. Is there anything you still have that you can't shake off? An incident long ago that you still can think about and over which you can become angry? Tell us about it.
I had a colleague who did everything she could to get me fired for no reason other than she was threatened by me and didn't want me and another colleague promoted over someone else. One day, she came up behind me in the office and started screaming at me for getting her in trouble. I was trapped because of how things were set up so I just stayed facing my computer with tears pouring down my face. There is much more to the story and it has a happy ending but it still boils my blood to this day

2. Tell us about something that surprised you in the last six months? That I am more than ok with moving out of state.

3. Hey, look, you've had a baby boy! What will you name him? When I was younger I said Timothy Eugene as that is what my name was going to be if I was a boy. Eugene was the first name of both my grandfathers. We ended up giving the dog the name so I probably wouldn't use it.

4. If you had a time machine, and could witness any one event without altering or disturbing it, what would you want to see? I have a number of events but I think I'd want to witness the Nuremberg Trials.

5. What words make you cringe? Moist
 

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Just realized I somehow signed up for two different Disney subscriptions.... one bundle with Hulu and ESPN, the other just for Disney +.

I hate having to have subscriptions for everything.

I also hate cable which I canceled last year.

Life was easier before all this crap. I'm hopping in the DeLorean and going back to 1982.
 

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Has anyone else ever found a potentially massive work problem at like 5 PM in the afternoon and then the entire night you're stressed out waiting for a response to your email about it and thinking you're going to get fired but then you get in in the morning and everything is alright?

Not fun

You just described the life of every single HR professional I’ve ever worked with
 

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How do you respond to the perspective that "HR is not for the employee, but for the company" - genuinely curious

*insert Tom Hanks typing in You've Got Mail gif here*

The role of an HR professional is to simultaneously look out for employees and the company. If you're good at what you do, this is a very achievable balance. I also don't think there's any point in hiding it - yes, my role is to advocate for employees, but it's also to make sure people (employees, managers, executives) aren't doing things that could get the company in deep doo-doo. In a lot of cases, protecting the company DOES include advocating for the employee.

If a manager comes to me and says they want to fire an employee, unless there's an egregious offense, the answer is almost never "sure, go ahead". Has the manager coached the employee? Is there documentation of those conversations? Have we, as a company, done everything we can to set the employee up for success and clearly communicated what the consequences are for not improving performance/behavior? If someone is getting fired, it should NEVER be a surprise.

Good HR professionals approach performance management this way to benefit the employee and the company. "Pro-employee" - is the employee aware that they are underperforming and aware of the consequences? Have they been provided with written documentation so that we are sure there is no miscommunication? Are we sure this is performance-based, and not an axe to grind or a termination for a discriminatory reason? Have we handled similar situations, well, similarly? "Pro-company" - Do we have all of this documented so if a former employee files suit, we can prove that the termination was legit and not based in discriminatory practices?

Unfortunately, HR is often the messenger when it comes to decisions that people don't like, even though it's not always an HR-specific decision. No raises? Guess what - HR doesn't make that decision unilaterally. Return to office? Don't shoot the messenger, we don't want to be back FT either.

A lot of the "pro-employee" stuff that HR does happens behind closed doors, so I don't expect employees to be aware of that. HR are the folks sitting at the table when it's benefits renewal time, explaining the impact that a significant increase in premium or reduction in services will have on our lowest paid staff. HR is typically the team advocating for raises, even when leaders might not want to give them. A lot of the communications we have, especially as you move up the chain, you have to chalk up to speak your mind and if it doesn't go your way, you need to disagree with the decision but commit to support it (unless, of course, its truly unethical).

I don't expect employees to think that HR's function is to be "for" them, partially because it's not the entirety of the function and the reality is people look for someone to blame when bad things happen. HR is easy to blame for a lot of reasons. If you want a career in HR, it comes with the territory and you need to be prepared for it.

TL;DR...employees are going to think what they're going to think because HR is always the messenger for shitty messages.

(Yes, there are a ton of terrible HR professionals out there, but I've been fortunate to work with really good ones in my career).
 

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NeelyDan's Friday Five:
1. You have been angry many times. Is there anything you still have that you can't shake off? An incident long ago that you still can think about and over which you can become angry? Tell us about it.

Yes. People who made assumptions about me during an indisputable difficult time in my life when my world was blowing up and I had no family support, money or food, and felt the need to say things and call me names in a public forum. It's low-life, Loserville energy. I'm not angry in 2023 because of who I've become, but it's noted in big red letters in my mind. (they know who they are) Energy breeds similar energy, so enjoy.

2. Tell us about something that surprised you in the last six months
My business exploded as did my professional reputation (in a good way), as did my client intake.

3. Hey, look, you've had a baby boy! What will you name him?
I have 3 beautiful step sons. Obviously I didn't name them.
If it were my own baby....Collier Grant.

4. If you had a time machine, and could witness any one event without altering or disturbing it, what would you want to see?
The Lady of Shallot in her tower (you didn't say it needed to be real life).

5. What words make you cringe?
You're "inspirational "
 

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NeelyDan's Friday Five:

1. You have been angry many times. Is there anything you still have that you can't shake off? An incident long ago that you still can think about and over which you can become angry? Tell us about it.
2. Tell us about something that surprised you in the last six months
3. Hey, look, you've had a baby boy! What will you name him?
4. If you had a time machine, and could witness any one event without altering or disturbing it, what would you want to see?
5. What words make you cringe?
1. My daughter's father was drunk and very mean to my young daughter. We were already split but the court let him take her every other weekend. She called me and was very scared. I went to pick her up and he almost threw us both (she was 5) over a 3d story balcony. His visitations ended when she was 7 (her request and a child abuse report to back it up). It is probably a good thing I did not have a gun.

2. I met up with an old friend from 40 years ago. It was sweet.

3. I would have named a boy Arthur (after my grandfather). Instead, I have an Amanda.

4.My parents wedding (1949)

5.anything racist. Any words out of trump's mouth (not meant to be political...that voice and face just make me want to vomit)
 
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*insert Tom Hanks typing in You've Got Mail gif here*

The role of an HR professional is to simultaneously look out for employees and the company. If you're good at what you do, this is a very achievable balance. I also don't think there's any point in hiding it - yes, my role is to advocate for employees, but it's also to make sure people (employees, managers, executives) aren't doing things that could get the company in deep doo-doo. In a lot of cases, protecting the company DOES include advocating for the employee.

If a manager comes to me and says they want to fire an employee, unless there's an egregious offense, the answer is almost never "sure, go ahead". Has the manager coached the employee? Is there documentation of those conversations? Have we, as a company, done everything we can to set the employee up for success and clearly communicated what the consequences are for not improving performance/behavior? If someone is getting fired, it should NEVER be a surprise.

Good HR professionals approach performance management this way to benefit the employee and the company. "Pro-employee" - is the employee aware that they are underperforming and aware of the consequences? Have they been provided with written documentation so that we are sure there is no miscommunication? Are we sure this is performance-based, and not an axe to grind or a termination for a discriminatory reason? Have we handled similar situations, well, similarly? "Pro-company" - Do we have all of this documented so if a former employee files suit, we can prove that the termination was legit and not based in discriminatory practices?

Unfortunately, HR is often the messenger when it comes to decisions that people don't like, even though it's not always an HR-specific decision. No raises? Guess what - HR doesn't make that decision unilaterally. Return to office? Don't shoot the messenger, we don't want to be back FT either.

A lot of the "pro-employee" stuff that HR does happens behind closed doors, so I don't expect employees to be aware of that. HR are the folks sitting at the table when it's benefits renewal time, explaining the impact that a significant increase in premium or reduction in services will have on our lowest paid staff. HR is typically the team advocating for raises, even when leaders might not want to give them. A lot of the communications we have, especially as you move up the chain, you have to chalk up to speak your mind and if it doesn't go your way, you need to disagree with the decision but commit to support it (unless, of course, its truly unethical).

I don't expect employees to think that HR's function is to be "for" them, partially because it's not the entirety of the function and the reality is people look for someone to blame when bad things happen. HR is easy to blame for a lot of reasons. If you want a career in HR, it comes with the territory and you need to be prepared for it.

TL;DR...employees are going to think what they're going to think because HR is always the messenger for shitty messages.

(Yes, there are a ton of terrible HR professionals out there, but I've been fortunate to work with really good ones in my career).
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NeelyDan's Friday Five:

1. You have been angry many times. Is there anything you still have that you can't shake off? An incident long ago that you still can think about and over which you can become angry? Tell us about it.
2. Tell us about something that surprised you in the last six months
3. Hey, look, you've had a baby boy! What will you name him?
4. If you had a time machine, and could witness any one event without altering or disturbing it, what would you want to see?
5. What words make you cringe?


1. I've got a bunch of stories sadly. I'll give you one. My 6th grade teacher was not a nice person to put it lightly. She was a very defensive woman. She picked on a lot of kids for no reason. There was this big field trip coming up. We were going to go to Fenway Park for a tour. Get on the field, etc. I obviously was more than thrilled as I played boys baseball at the time and I'm a huge baseball fan. So for a month, I'm preparing, getting excited. Now this woman throughout the year picked on me mercilessly. I would tell my parents and she would deny it. She'd call me a liar. My parents kept believing her word over me. My classmates would tell their parents, she'd call them liars. This woman made me feel like shit. That Monday before the trip which would be Friday, shes getting the kids she don't like detentions. Left and right. "You took too long in the bathroom" detention type stuff. Now I'm getting scared because I know this lady hates me. I'm trying get to the field trip and SHE KNOWS IT. She's trying to get me to do something. I sat SILENT that day. Until she gives us a pop quiz. Cool. I'm prepared. I drop my pencil before it starts. Whoops. "Michelle ____ you're trying to cheat, detention". Uh what? No I'm not. My classmates are defending me. She's not having it. She said I dropped my pencil purposely to cheat. I swear to God I didn't. She tried that entire day to get me on something. Keep in mind, this entire year She's bullied me. Called me a liar to my face. To my parents face. To other kids parents who complained. And now the one thing I'm looking forward to, she's taken it away. When I get home from school, I'm devastated. I tell my mom and I explain again what this lady has done and how's she's treated me. I'm not a liar. I'm not a cheat. I'm literally an introvert before we knew what that word meant. Finally my mom believes me. I didn't get to go on the trip obviously, my mom kept me home. This story might seem tame, but that whole year of being called a liar and a cheat and getting insulted and just everything really hurt me. My parents not believing me REALLY hurt. My mom to this day apologizes when we talk about it. She says "I don't know why I believed her. I know you. I'm sorry". This teacher got fired at the end of the year. As the Principal admitted she had complaints from the entire class. I saw her once years after that, reffing my older sisters volleyball game, and I heckled her. Yep I did. This lady destroyed my confidence and made me feel like shit. Not being believed is not a great head space to be in. It still had an effect on me to this day, as I've had to been believed on other occasions. Believe in your kids, folks. Believe when they tell you something.

2. My ability in a crisis or not an ideal situation, to get shit done. Somehow, folks with anxiety like me freak out with everything else, but when shit hits the fan and you're needed to step up, you do it. I guess, I'm not so useless after all.

3. Oh, I've had a list I've continously updated since I was like 5 years old lol. My favorite was Jacob, but that's now my nephews name. Luke. Luke Joseph. Followed by Nikolas. As a big soap opera fan, I love 90's Nikolas Cassadine. So Nikolas was on my list.

4. My parents wedding!

5. ...moist
 

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*insert Tom Hanks typing in You've Got Mail gif here*

The role of an HR professional is to simultaneously look out for employees and the company. If you're good at what you do, this is a very achievable balance. I also don't think there's any point in hiding it - yes, my role is to advocate for employees, but it's also to make sure people (employees, managers, executives) aren't doing things that could get the company in deep doo-doo. In a lot of cases, protecting the company DOES include advocating for the employee.

If a manager comes to me and says they want to fire an employee, unless there's an egregious offense, the answer is almost never "sure, go ahead". Has the manager coached the employee? Is there documentation of those conversations? Have we, as a company, done everything we can to set the employee up for success and clearly communicated what the consequences are for not improving performance/behavior? If someone is getting fired, it should NEVER be a surprise.

Good HR professionals approach performance management this way to benefit the employee and the company. "Pro-employee" - is the employee aware that they are underperforming and aware of the consequences? Have they been provided with written documentation so that we are sure there is no miscommunication? Are we sure this is performance-based, and not an axe to grind or a termination for a discriminatory reason? Have we handled similar situations, well, similarly? "Pro-company" - Do we have all of this documented so if a former employee files suit, we can prove that the termination was legit and not based in discriminatory practices?

Unfortunately, HR is often the messenger when it comes to decisions that people don't like, even though it's not always an HR-specific decision. No raises? Guess what - HR doesn't make that decision unilaterally. Return to office? Don't shoot the messenger, we don't want to be back FT either.

A lot of the "pro-employee" stuff that HR does happens behind closed doors, so I don't expect employees to be aware of that. HR are the folks sitting at the table when it's benefits renewal time, explaining the impact that a significant increase in premium or reduction in services will have on our lowest paid staff. HR is typically the team advocating for raises, even when leaders might not want to give them. A lot of the communications we have, especially as you move up the chain, you have to chalk up to speak your mind and if it doesn't go your way, you need to disagree with the decision but commit to support it (unless, of course, its truly unethical).

I don't expect employees to think that HR's function is to be "for" them, partially because it's not the entirety of the function and the reality is people look for someone to blame when bad things happen. HR is easy to blame for a lot of reasons. If you want a career in HR, it comes with the territory and you need to be prepared for it.

TL;DR...employees are going to think what they're going to think because HR is always the messenger for shitty messages.

(Yes, there are a ton of terrible HR professionals out there, but I've been fortunate to work with really good ones in my career).
Also out of curiosity, how fast do you type? lol
 

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Also out of curiosity, how fast do you type? lol

Ha!

I’ve never timed myself but I’d say I’m definitely above average. There have been a few times I was working on something on my laptop with my husband in the room and he’s asked if I was just banging on the keys or if I was actually typing.

In high school we had to take typing classes in the computer lab, and Mrs Chaplick made us put boxes over our hands and the keyboard to learn how to type. It was the pits at the time, but turned out to be a useful exercise.
 
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If you're curious about your speed.....monkeytype.com is fun

I learned to type on an IBM Selectric typewriter in high school in the late 80s. Back when you had to use correction tape or one of those little pencil size erasers with the fan brush on the end.

Our teacher had polio and used those crutches that clip onto your arm to get around. If she caught you with your wrists resting on the desk she would tap you under the arm with one of her crutches lol. A lot of kids didn't like her, but she's the reason I learned to type well.

Of course right now I'm using the Swype keyboard on my phone :laugh:
 

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NeelyDan's Friday Five:

1. You have been angry many times. Is there anything you still have that you can't shake off? An incident long ago that you still can think about and over which you can become angry? Tell us about it.
2. Tell us about something that surprised you in the last six months
3. Hey, look, you've had a baby boy! What will you name him?
4. If you had a time machine, and could witness any one event without altering or disturbing it, what would you want to see?
5. What words make you cringe?
1. Absolutely nothing. I still get mad in the moment, but I've learned to quickly let shit go and move on. Keeping anger is a normal reaction though, and you gotta work hard to get past things sometimes. But once you do, its totally worth it.

2. My wife being diagnosed with heart failure. Didn't see that one coming.

3. Our rule has always been that my wife gets the final say in deciding. She's the one doing the heavy lifting. That said, I've always had a fondness for Joe or Joseph.

4. Probably would want to see Jesus live and in action...I got a few questions for him/her.

5. "Woke" drives me nuts. Also people who liberally sprinkle the word "like" randomly into their sentences. "So like I'm driving to the mall, and like you know like this guy cuts me off like, and I'm like you are such a dick. So anyway, I'm like, thinking about giving him the bird and like suddenly....."

You get my point.
 
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