WCSF | Vancouver Canucks vs. Edmonton Oilers | Round 2 - FIGHT!

[Mr. Canucklehead]

It’s official, bring on the Oilers!

Oiler Killers:
Quinn Hughes - 25GP, 3G, 19A, 22Pts
JT Miller - 32GP, 11G, 23A, 34Pts
Brock Boeser - 31GP, 16G, 11A, 27Pts

Season Series:
October 11, 2023
Vancouver def. Edmonton - 8-1


October 14, 2023
Vancouver def. Edmonton - 4-3


November 6, 2023
Vancouver def. Edmonton - 6-2


April 13, 2024
Vancouver def. Edmonton 3-1

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[ziploc]

Wed would be great. It's not like we have any momentum that a rest is going to hurt, whereas the Oil could be getting rusty. Be good to let Hughes get some rest, and it looks like a few other players are carrying some dings at least. Maybe EP has time to visit a sports psychiatrist or a medium to figure out what is going wrong.

And maybe this gives Demko more of an opportunity to return this series.

 

[AwesomeInTheory]

It looks worse in hindsight but he was a legit first line center at the start of his prime who was a free asset. Probably overpaid by 1.5 mil but it was a good risk.

The main issue in the whole process was banking on a shit D group and trading Kadri for f***ing Tyson Barrie. Kadri was not going to work out in TOR due to his immaturity.

I'm pretty sure he signed when he was 28. Just about everyone besides Steve Simmons (who was ejaculating his brains out) knew that there was gonna be major issues with a long term contract. And again, it wasn't a smart use of cap money.

Easy
At the time, Tavares was a very marketable and profitable player. They couldn’t resist making more money

I'll rephrase: I mean from a 'building a competitive hockey team' standpoint.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

back in 1992 i wasn’t even that mad that we lost to the oilers.

on the one hand it felt inevitable, even if it was to joe murphy, bernie nicholls, and vinnie damphousse instead of gretzky and fuhr.

on the other, we’d just made a crazy jump from fifth last to fourth best, 100 pts and winning the division for the first time ever. the season was already a bonkers resounding success without a deep playoff run.

but the third part is that team was bleeding stars. just before that season started they had to dump fuhr and anderson to toronto, and messier (and beukeboom) to the rangers, while also having adam graves basically stolen from them (although i didn’t know about this at the time). so for the league’s new golden boy team the rangers to lose in the second round, with the extra poetic justice of graves intentionally taking mario out with a slash to the wrist only to then watch our first glimpse of jagr becoming jagr and taking over the series, and meanwhile messier’s old team advances to the third, i didn’t mind seeing that at all.

but this year, even though this season also already is a bonkers resounding success without a deep playoff run, it’s totally different. and as much as i want to see us win, i actually want that oilers team to lose more. call me just as petty as those fans on the oilers board paying more attention to our series than their own but damn seeing that team fail again would be delicious.

 

[Vector]

on the other, we’d just made a crazy jump from fifth last to fourth best, 100 pts and winning the division for the first time ever. the season was already a bonkers resounding success without a deep playoff run.

Was this written for 1992 or 2024?

 

[Flik]

Was this written for 1992 or 2024?

For real tho..........

 

[LemonSauceD]

Cause I’m just a teenage dirt bag baby!

 

[Grub]

Seems like were the underdogs here judging by the responses in the main boards. I just want the boys to fight as hard as possible. I think people are underestimating our depth. If Quinn Hughes plays at his Norris level then we have a chance.

 

[Kryten]

I really don’t want Wednesday to be game 01. Wednesdays are my regular handout online with a couple of friends.

But we have online handys here during games

 

[Grub]

JT Miller has a big roll in getting McDavid off his game. Remember the regular season game, Mcdavid's frustration got him into fighting.

 

[Vector]

But we have online handys here during games

Well…that was a deeply unfortunate autocorrect error.

 

[Jimnastic]

A different take. I am forever a Canucks tragic. But, I do not hate the Oilers. Their fans are obnoxious, but I want the winner of this series to win Lord Stanley of Preston. Period. Come home to Canada. You belong here.

 

[sting101]

Also if Shorthouse is done it's a bloody joke. He should be the #2 caller for Sportsnet's national broadcasts behind Cuthbert, he's been ridiculously disrespected by the network for a long time. Harnarayan hasn't put in nearly as much time as Shorty, and has less than half the talent.

Brought this up as well in a lot more colorful detail in The Athletics fan survey this year on their opinion of play by play commentators

We've been unbelievably blessed in this market with incredible play by play talent, the local talent is unreal. Leave it to the big heads in Toronto to be the ones to consistently let us down.

Couldn't agree more. They really made an egregious mistake and disservice to the fans.

It looks worse in hindsight but he was a legit first line center at the start of his prime who was a free asset. Probably overpaid by 1.5 mil but it was a good risk.

The main issue in the whole process was banking on a shit D group and trading Kadri for f***ing Tyson Barrie. Kadri was not going to work out in TOR due to his immaturity.

Yep...Tavares has never been the problem. The inability to build a competent defense and goaltending along with poor coaching by Keefe has consistently plagued that team. The Marner contract was too much too soon and they were too top heavy to get the help they needed.
They should have moved Marner in 2020 for a high pick and reset the cap and kept Hyman at half the cost which they could have used for a top4 D. It's not the right mix that core 4 you need a net front guy and a excellent to elite shut down pair to be a contender and they just stayed a highly skilled team excellent in a track meet

 

[rea]

Have not read all the posts leading to this, but given the league waiting on the end of dal-lvk series before announcing Sched for round 2, I find it serendipitous that this team, that imo honestly needed some days off to rest, have it.

Whether it helps or alleviates wtvr ails them is another story, but the extra days off and practice can't hurt.

I've been and will always be cordial to opposing teams, doesn't mean I don't have the same hate as alot of y'all do. The venom spewed both ways is not things that whomever said them can come back from, Win or lose. It's great entertainment for myself and I'm sure others, so not my control and not my care.

Hopefully as canucks fans, if you're proud enough to be pro one way, show some humility the other if you're proven wrong. The endless banter back n forth btwn the 2 fan bases, again while super entertaining, is also repetitive w the same shaming about past irrelevance that matters nothing. How stupid will one side look at the end? (before someone calls me out on some ridiculous gatekeeping shit, Idgaf. Nothing anyone says affects me, and I will be entertained reading the car crash regardless.)

I've missed the excitement and nerves of playoff hockey. I've missed more that it was the canucks that made me feel that way! I won't buy into the house money bs. You're in or Ur out, at the end, no one's talking about how u got there, it's that you did. Using the defense mechanism that if you lose it's ok cuz the team wasn't expected to do well, sorry, f*** you. Expect them to do well, but if it doesn't go your way, don't make excuses.

Played out trolls like bringing up Oilers dynasty of the 80s, canucks winning season series, round 1 stats, canucks won Nada. Oiler fans, your cups in the 80s have no relevance to today. Canuck fans, talking about draft picks has no relevance either. Neither team has won shit in the time most of the posters have been alive!

Both teams start at 0. After game 1 there will be a mountain of hilarious takes and stats to pick from.

Also TL;DR and would totally understand

 

[SillyRabbit]

Also if Shorthouse is done it's a bloody joke. He should be the #2 caller for Sportsnet's national broadcasts behind Cuthbert, he's been ridiculously disrespected by the network for a long time. Harnarayan hasn't put in nearly as much time as Shorty, and has less than half the talent.

Brought this up as well in a lot more colorful detail in The Athletics fan survey this year on their opinion of play by play commentators

We've been unbelievably blessed in this market with incredible play by play talent, the local talent is unreal. Leave it to the big heads in Toronto to be the ones to consistently let us down.

The thing about Shorthouse isn't just his great delivery.

He's also incredibly sharp.

A lot of times for us rabid hockey fans, we'll see things happen on the ice that the commentators miss.

Shorthouse is one of the rare few who sees things that we miss, or catches things before us.

The amount of times he knows exactly who deflected the puck in is crazy to me.

 

[JAK]

The thing about Shorthouse isn't just his great delivery.

He's also incredibly sharp.

A lot of times for us rabid hockey fans, we'll see things happen on the ice that the commentators miss.

Shorthouse is one of the rare few who sees things that we miss, or catches things before us.

The amount of times he knows exactly who deflected the puck in is crazy to me.

I think it has to do with doing radio PBP.
Doing radio, you are responsible for transcribing everything to the audience, you have to know everything, players on both teams, who's on the ice, being able to describe which way the puck is heading, and end of the day, allowing the listeners to be able to imagine the entire game just from your voice.

Early on when Shorty started doing TV, he had a habit of saying too much, as the TV audience now have visual too, it took him a few years, but his PBP has translated well. And I think that has allowed him to do even better TV PBP because he now doesn't have to fully focus on helping the listeners visualize.

Which gives him more time and space to focus on little things.

Where as, Singh, who went from being a CBC reporter to being a play by play because he knew Kelly Hrudley, had zero traditional training in terms of hockey play by play. Singh literally got started in this field because he was a fan, got a connection, and spoke Punjabi, which attracted CBC executives.

 

[Freakshow]

Not sure how this is going to go. The playoff Oilers look different than the dysfunctional regular season Oilers, and, we're without our Vezina caliber starting goaltender. I think the Oilers can be had, but they've gotta stay out of the box and have a good forecheck.

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

Shutting down McCheesies and taking few penalties are obvious keys.

However, the other Keys to beating the Oilers are to embarrass Skinner early in the series and to get Nurse to retaliate and take penalties.

 

[TruGr1t]

This actually confirmed ... because THANK GOD.

 

[Angry Little Elf]

I really don’t want Wednesday to be game 01. Wednesdays are my regular hangout online with a couple of friends.

You have friends?

 

[krutovsdonut]

canuck fans should start a #getshorty social media campaign to get our own crew to do this broadcast. there's no reason they can't run two crews and let edmonton have their guys also. it would be interesting.

i mean i'll take cuthbert over harmanryan but that's not a choice we should have to make. it's incredibly obnoxious to drop cuthbert/simpson on us plebian westerners. let cuthbert call the scf when we get there.

 

[Vector]

You have friends?

I’m in my late 30s so it’s increasingly difficult to have real friendships. A big part of maintaining relationships as you get older is making an effort to keep in contact even when you have other responsibilities. I have three days a week where I call my various friends and play games. One group is from university, another are more recent work friends, and the longest running time is my friend in Japan.

This is my all-too-serious response to a joke question.

 

[Vector]

The schedule stuff was about the Canucks vs Oilers possibly starting on Wednesday instead of Tuesday. He heard that if the Golden Knights win they have to play Tuesday since that’s the only day the Avalanche rink is available. No such restrictions for the Stars.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

The schedule stuff was about the Canucks vs Oilers possibly starting on Wednesday instead of Tuesday. He heard that if the Golden Knights win they have to play Tuesday since that’s the only day the Avalanche rink is available. No such restrictions for the Stars.

It's a conspiracy!

 

[Hodgy]

I'm of the opinion that this series is going to come down to more what the Oilers players can't do rather than what the Canucks players can't do. If Skinner plays poorly and their defence (the defencemen plus overall team defence) don't commit to stopping the Canucks system, like what Nashville did, then the Canucks have a chance.

Oilers beat the Kings because the Kings' stupid system was never going to work against McDavid and Draisaitl. Canucks play a completely different defensive system, which most pundits don't seem to realize. The key for the Oilers is Bouchard, Nurse, and Ekholm is executing their breakout passes if they can handle the Canucks aggressive forecheck.

For the Canucks, the best way to beat the Oilers is to keep the puck off of McDavid and Draisaitl's stick. Like the rest of the season, a lot needs to go right but the Oilers don't seem like an insurmountable foe like the other three teams left in the West.

I agree, but I think goaltending will be key in this series. We all know that the Canucks system works quite well against the Oilers (I.e, the Canucks are 4-0 in the regular system), but Silovs will need to play at an above average level as the Oilers will get some chances especially on the power play, and if Silovs can’t keep his svp in the nines then it’s going to be tough too advance.

 

[sting101]

Cuthbert vs Singh is a massive upgrade.

If i had to rate the Canadian group

Shorthouse Miller Cuthbert are all excellent

Ball Mudryk are very good

Michaels and Singh can go away as far as im concerned i dont really feel like they enhance the experience.

Singh makes too many mistakes missing nuances or key moments annoying stupid non hockey dialogue "Bonino bonino.." "saved his samosa" and has fake emotions. It's just not real with him the passion doesn't bleed through like the good one's. Michaels is too scratchy

Ferraro is the best in the business for colour

Johnson Simpson Cosentino are very good and i kinda like Debrusk as well unlike a lot of you

Randorf Rosen Daniels Burke are my favourites from the American contingent.

Thankfully we dodged a bullet as the PBP should enhance the game not make it annoying