GDT: WCQF Game 4, (1) Vegas Golden Knights vs (WC1) LA Kings @7:30 VGK lead series 3-0

[bouncesonly]

He's skewing the narrative to make it sound like the series was 4 straight blowouts and nothing to do with great goaltending. Then there's the part of being just a general a-hole.

Scoring 3 goals may not be a blow out but it's certainly just as bad. We're you expecting Quick to have 4 straight shutouts?

 

[kilowatt]

Why are we blaming Stevens for this? It’s the playoffs - should the coach need to motivate anybody? At what point do we just say “our players weren’t good enough”?

I was at the game tonight. There was no urgency with the puck, but even worse, there was no pressure on Vegas without the puck. When LA won, teams hated playing against the Kings. Every single player was throwing a check and other teams didn’t want to play against the Kings. They would shy away from contact.

Every fly-by by guys like Toffoli, Reider, Folin, and Fantenberg was a reminder that this Kings team just doesn’t have the same grit and presence that the 2012 and 2014 teams had. Hell, aside from Thompson, I think Kopitar was the most physical. That’s brutal.

The Kings scored three goals in four games. There’s no one to blame but themselves.

 

[Herby]

Once again, when you have a top 5 center, top 5 dman and top 5 goaltender and all you can manage is to sneak into a WC spot and get swept it’s pretty telling about the overall makeup of your team.

That is what’s so tough to about this year, all our best players played great this season and we couldn’t even win a playoff game.

What happens if Brown is 15g/30a and Kopi is 25g/35a next season?

 

[TruKingFan]

That was pretty pathetic series for the Kings. I'm not even mad - just depressed and I HATE that Roenick is actually right. This team better have a different "look" in October. I'm out. Hope the Sucks get swept as well. f***ers.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Look at the bright side guys. The Kings will go down in the history books as the first team to not only be eliminated, but swept by the expansion Vegas Golden Knights in their inaugural season.

That’s in a class of its own, like the 2014 Kings with the reverse sweep, and the three Game 7 wins on the road.

 

[Sol]

The Kings are a MESS, we have stupid leaders running this team!

Low energy team tbh

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

Low energy team tbh

Hopefully Kopitar learns to be an asshole over the summer and calls out Toffoli for his awful effort or Doughty for doing something stupid.

 

[kingsfan28]

No issue with Roenick’s Tweet. Those national color guys aren’t hired to be profound.

Plus, he’s right. This is one of the most embarrassing moments in Kings history, getting swept and held to three goals by a ****ing expansion team.

I think it would more embarrassing if the playoff positions were switched. This wasn't some average expansion team that just got in, they were built to win right away. They won the division for a reason and they were held to 7 goals in the series. The bad part was the Kings only scored 3.

 

[Sol]

Look at the bright side guys. The Kings will go down in the history books as the first team to not only be eliminated, but swept by the expansion Vegas Golden Knights in their inaugural season.

That’s in a class of its own, like the 2014 Kings with the reverse sweep, and the three Game 7 wins on the road.

I knew we had a price to pay for 2014. But not this steep.


Anyways avoid the main boards like the plague.

I'm so embarrassed lol.

Anyways hopefully the ducks get sweeped too.

 

[Sol]

Hopefully Kopitar learns to be an ******* over the summer and calls out Toffoli for his awful effort or Doughty for doing something stupid.

Roeder, Toffoli, and Pearson need to get their shit together.

Vilardi has to be Moses next year for the team to be dangerous.

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

Roeder, Toffoli, and Pearson need to get their **** together.

Vilardi has to be Moses next year for the team to be dangerous.

I do wonder what they do with Rieder. He clearly isn't worth $2.5 million or whatever it'll cost to sign him.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

He's skewing the narrative to make it sound like the series was 4 straight blowouts and nothing to do with great goaltending. Then there's the part of being just a general a-hole.

Honestly, I really think MAF was only great in game four and early in game 3. The rest of the time an average goalie could have produced the same results against the Kings putrid offense. Game 1 for example was one of the easiest shutouts I've ever seen

 

[Docgonzo]

It’s starting to bother me everybody is just saying “I can’t believe we lost to an expansion team”. Like the Kings were the 109 point division winner and the Knights were the 1st Wildcard team.

Just call Vegas what they are, a freak of nature. A division winning, 5th best team in the league, who played 4/5 goalies at one point and kept winning. Can we all stop acting like we lost to a 93 point team that snuck into the playoffs on a technicality.

 

[KingsFan7824]

He's skewing the narrative to make it sound like the series was 4 straight blowouts and nothing to do with great goaltending. Then there's the part of being just a general a-hole.

The Kings were barely in the series. The 3rd period of Game 2, and the 1st period in Game 3 and 4. In the other 11 periods they were non-existent. Fleury wasn't that great.

Once again, when you have a top 5 center, top 5 dman and top 5 goaltender and all you can manage is to sneak into a WC spot and get swept it’s pretty telling about the overall makeup of your team.

That is what’s so tough to about this year, all our best players played great this season and we couldn’t even win a playoff game.

What happens if Brown is 15g/30a and Kopi is 25g/35a next season?

Better draft pick.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Just call Vegas what they are, a freak of nature. A division winning, 5th best team in the league, who played 4/5 goalies at one point and kept winning. Can we all stop acting like we lost to a 93 point team that snuck into the playoffs on a technicality.

Well, let's see what happens with their next opponent. That will tell the story on what the Kings were really dealing with.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

LOL at all of us who wanted Vegas in the first round.

That's one playoff game win in 4 years. Nice waste of amazing comeback seasons from Kopitar/Brown.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Says the biggest homer on these boards. How many outnumbered attacks did the Kings have? Sounds like you’re extremely satisfied with the effort. Scoring less than a goal a game isn’t their fault.

They were just badly outcoached and outplayed like they were in 2016 against the Sharks. This is a team that has one playoff win in four years.

And yet you find no fault and don’t have the backbone to admit that this team is flawed. Keep burying your head in the sand.

Here's the major difference, I CLEARLY appreciate effort, EVEN when the results aren't there, because they can't control the bounces, or how good Fleury is, or how quick a Vegas stick is to get in the shooting lanes, they can control their effort and work ethic, and if anyone thinks that wasn't there, they weren't watching four INCREDIBLY close hockey games.

I remember back in 2010. 2011, same people were saying the same damn thing, and then they go off on a run, now this group isn't the same, and I'm not saying they are, but it seems to me, people just love to bitch without giving an OUNCE OF CREDIT, to Vegas, you know, the OTHER NHL team that was out there?

If anyone thought Vegas was going to roll over and die, well, no, it doesn't work that way, they got to wher they are for a reason.

Is the team flawed, no, not really, snake bitten, ABSOLUTELY, changes needed, ABSOLUTELY,

But people act as if this is the 1997 Kings ffs, or the 2001 Kings, or hell the 1986 Kings etc, it's a joke.

 

[KingsFan7824]

LOL at all of us who wanted Vegas in the first round.

That's one playoff game win in 4 years. Nice waste of amazing comeback seasons from Kopitar/Brown.

A lot of people didn't want the Sharks because they were bored with them. Either way, it's a sweep for the Sharks too. Nobody trusts the team against the Ducks. 6-8-6 against the Ducks since 2014, and the Ducks are 14-4-2.

It didn't matter who the Kings played, they had to show up. They didn't. Every issue during the season popped up at one point or another. The scoring. The home record against the West. The GA in the 1st. Pick a topic. Quick was great, but even he gave up a relatively weak backbreaker in the 3rd period of biggest game of the series, which was something that we saw happen any number of times.

 

[KingsHockey24]

What a depressing way to go out on career seasons for Kopitar, Brown, Doughty, etc.... Jonathan Quick played unbelievable and got 3 goals as support. Pathetic..

 

[KINGS17]

Hopefully Kopitar learns to be an ******* over the summer and calls out Toffoli for his awful effort or Doughty for doing something stupid.

Is Kopitar Jeb Bush? Doughty little Drew?

 

[KINGS17]

Here's the major difference, I CLEARLY appreciate effort, EVEN when the results aren't there, because they can't control the bounces, or how good Fleury is, or how quick a Vegas stick is to get in the shooting lanes, they can control their effort and work ethic, and if anyone thinks that wasn't there, they weren't watching four INCREDIBLY close hockey games.

I remember back in 2010. 2011, same people were saying the same damn thing, and then they go off on a run, now this group isn't the same, and I'm not saying they are, but it seems to me, people just love to ***** without giving an OUNCE OF CREDIT, to Vegas, you know, the OTHER NHL team that was out there?

If anyone thought Vegas was going to roll over and die, well, no, it doesn't work that way, they got to wher they are for a reason.

Is the team flawed, no, not really, snake bitten, ABSOLUTELY, changes needed, ABSOLUTELY,

But people act as if this is the 1997 Kings ffs, or the 2001 Kings, or hell the 1986 Kings etc, it's a joke.

If the team is not flawed, why the need for changes? This team's basic construction is obviously flawed as demonstrated by ONE playoff win in FOUR seasons. Those are four years we'll never see again for Doughty, Quick, and Kopitar.

So, is it finally time to put to bed the ghosts of Stanley Cups past and move on, or not.

Honestly, this is what I expect to hear come out of Robitaille's mouth in the next few days. Along with blah, blah, blah, Kopi, Brownie, Quickie, Dewey, etc. we're still contenders.

 

[DryIslandBartender]

Here's the major difference, I CLEARLY appreciate effort, EVEN when the results aren't there, because they can't control the bounces, or how good Fleury is, or how quick a Vegas stick is to get in the shooting lanes, they can control their effort and work ethic, and if anyone thinks that wasn't there, they weren't watching four INCREDIBLY close hockey games.

I remember back in 2010. 2011, same people were saying the same damn thing, and then they go off on a run, now this group isn't the same, and I'm not saying they are, but it seems to me, people just love to ***** without giving an OUNCE OF CREDIT, to Vegas, you know, the OTHER NHL team that was out there?

If anyone thought Vegas was going to roll over and die, well, no, it doesn't work that way, they got to wher they are for a reason.

Is the team flawed, no, not really, snake bitten, ABSOLUTELY, changes needed, ABSOLUTELY,

But people act as if this is the 1997 Kings ffs, or the 2001 Kings, or hell the 1986 Kings etc, it's a joke.

The expectations are high in Los Angeles now that we’ve had two cups. I don’t think anyone should be happy we got swept nor winning 1 playoff game in 4 years.

It’s time for a change and start with the core.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

If the team is flawed, why the need for changes? This team's basic construction is obviously flawed as demonstrated by ONE playoff win in FOUR seasons. Those are four years we'll never see again for Doughty, Quick, and Kopitar.

So, is it finally time to put to bed the ghosts of Stanley Cups past and move on, or not.

I'm gonna assume you mean if the team is not flawed. The need for change happens with EVERY team that doesn't win, there is a tweak to be made, etc. If you think that all 30 teams that don't win the cup are flawed then changes have to be made.

When I say this team isn't flawed, maybe I misspoke, I view flaw, as it's a fatal flaw, and there is nothing about this team that can't be fixed, except probably for it's bipolar fan base.

Anyone that thinks this team didn't compete in these four games or weren't competitive, again, don't know what to tell you, but the entire hockey world thinks your wrong, and by hockey world, I mean guys who are actually paid to do this etc,

No one is saying they should live in the past, but recognize what the ACTUAL flaws are, not some made up melodrama in fanbase pysche so they can feel good about themselves.

Creating offense isn't their flaw, it's finishing, it's sustaining. They created offense, but couldn't finish it, couldn't translate the creation into results, that's why change needs to be had, be it coach OR players.

But those willing to burn it down just to watch it burn, don't understand that you aren't going to win every game, you aren't going to get every bounce, it's sport, bounces and bad beats happen.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

The expectations are high in Los Angeles now that we’ve had two cups. I don’t think anyone should be happy we got swept nor winning 1 playoff game in 4 years.

It’s time for a change and start with the core.

Kinda addressed that, no one saying they should be happy, I'm just saying it's not as dire as everyone needs it to be

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

It's simply amazing how much the lure of futures are, the hope, the promise of change, without the realization that all it is, is a gamble. Vilardi MAY pan out, he MAY not, but everyone is willing to keep him over a PROVEN goal scorer like Carter....now I'm not saying moving Carter is right or wrong...I am using that as an illustration that in real life, futures are a gamble MOST of the time.