WCH - Impressions of the Tournament

[XokkeyGuy]

Hudler refuses to play in World Cup!
At least he isn´t picking his phone up when the coach is calling or responding to any texts. How many players are we at now that have refused, showed bad attitude to be selected or have had some soft "injuries" prohibiting them from participating?

 

[serp]

Its an exibition tournament everyone that is not 100% ready to go won't go .

Huddler probably hates the guts of some of the Czech hockey people after beeing snubbed multiple times before most importantly for Sochi . He has no reason to go play for a team that obviosly does not value him . Maybe he would've went if he was on the initial roster and not replacement no #3-4 .

 

[jj cale]

Hudler refuses to play in World Cup!
At least he isn´t picking his phone up when the coach is calling or responding to any texts. How many players are we at now that have refused, showed bad attitude to be selected or have had some soft "injuries" prohibiting them from participating?

I don't know but on paper Sweden has a better team then they had in Sochi.

Strike while the iron is hot i say.

 

[xxxx]

Hudler refuses to play in World Cup!
At least he isn´t picking his phone up when the coach is calling or responding to any texts. How many players are we at now that have refused, showed bad attitude to be selected or have had some soft "injuries" prohibiting them from participating?

You know the context? You sure seem to.

But yeah, how many players are there who showed bad attitude? I would like to hear your answer.

Lol @ soft injuries. Any injury is an injury.

 

[XokkeyGuy]

You know the context? You sure seem to.

But yeah, how many players are there who showed bad attitude? I would like to hear your answer.

Lol @ soft injuries. Any injury is an injury.

Yeah, I read it in our biggest newspaper and they quoted the coach saying it. I trust that information. Why do you try to deny everything slightly bad for the world cup? I wouldn´t write such detailed information without any facts behind. The article has since then been updated and the agent has now said that Hudler isn´t interested.

And I never said anything about players with bad attitude being there (even though I have read about some players not being as excited as for the olympics). I asked how many players are NOT there because of bad attitude? Such as Radulov who is clearly not on the team because of such reasons and now Hudler - legitimate reasons or not. Those are players that make the teams worse due to reasons simply not being as motivated for this tournament.

 

[Voodoozz]

Our coach didn't find a place for him in the top 2 lines where he can play his best game and didn't want him play bottom six, when he was playing on 3rd line in Florida he looked awful. So he didn't invite him on the roster. Top six was Palat-Krejci-Voracek Hertl-Plekanec-Pastrnak. After Krejci and Hertl were out with injuries, Czech coaching staff tried to get him, but he wasn't answering any text messages or phone calls and eventually his agent confirmed he wasn't interested.

 

[JackSlater]

Czechs don't seem to be taking it very seriously. Hudler refusing to go and apparently Hertl not injured enough to even miss the start of training camp September 23. Are Czech fans in the Czech Republic upset about this?

 

[xxxx]

Czechs don't seem to be taking it very seriously. Hudler refusing to go and apparently Hertl not injured enough to even miss the start of training camp September 23. Are Czech fans in the Czech Republic upset about this?

First, Hudler is a weird player when the Czech team comes around. We know he wasn't selected in Sochi, he wasn't selected for the World Cup for the first time, and now he ''refuses to go''. I feel something else is going on there. Second, Hertl wanted to go but the Sharks doctors don't allow him to, what he's supposed to do? Third, Krejci wanted to go badly, but he's simply not healthy and can't make it on time. Gudas got legitimately injured during his training.

 

[Voodoozz]

Upset ? I'm not upset about it, just a little bit dissapointed. We lost 3 key players, and especially not having Krejci is a tremendous loss but whatever. I'm more upset about our coach inviting 3 KHL guys as a replacement, when he could have invited youngsters from NA like Zacha, Vrána , Simon etc. But meh, there's always hope and if Mrazek pulls of his WJC 2012-like performance against US ... i keep dreamin'

 

[xxxx]

Yeah, I read it in our biggest newspaper and they quoted the coach saying it. I trust that information. Why do you try to deny everything slightly bad for the world cup? I wouldn´t write such detailed information without any facts behind. The article has since then been updated and the agent has now said that Hudler isn´t interested.

And I never said anything about players with bad attitude being there (even though I have read about some players not being as excited as for the olympics). I asked how many players are NOT there because of bad attitude? Such as Radulov who is clearly not on the team because of such reasons and now Hudler - legitimate reasons or not. Those are players that make the teams worse due to reasons simply not being as motivated for this tournament.

I'm not questioning the information, I'm questioning if you suggest (if you don't, then I apologize) that he refused to go just because the tournament is not interesting for him, hence why I say if you know the context. It's quite weird that he isn't answering anyone from the czech management, isn't it? After being snubbed from the olympics and now from the world cup, something tells me something is off there. You don't know what's going on there. It's like with Radulov a little bit in that that there were also some reasons behind the curtain as why he wasn't selected. Likely different reasons but still we can't see that.

 

[syz]

GMs are pleased when their players opt out.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Good for Hertl....no sense getting injured in this gimmick tourney. Jamie Benn did the same thing last month.

I've got my fingers crossed that no Stars players get hurt playing before the real games start (i.e. regular season).

Actually, I'd rather see no player get injured in this tourney. It would be pretty unfortunate and totally unnecessary.

 

[JackSlater]

First, Hudler is a weird player when the Czech team comes around. We know he wasn't selected in Sochi, he wasn't selected for the World Cup for the first time, and now he ''refuses to go''. I feel something else is going on there. Second, Hertl wanted to go but the Sharks doctors don't allow him to, what he's supposed to do? Third, Krejci wanted to go badly, but he's simply not healthy and can't make it on time. Gudas got legitimately injured during his training.

All we knows is that Hudler refused not to go. Unlike what you suggest, Hertl also decided not to go. Those truths in and of themselves are by no means an indictment of this tournament actually, but I am surprised that the number of players not participating is this large since they've had the whole summer to recuperate.

Good for Hertl....no sense getting injured in this gimmick tourney. Jamie Benn did the same thing last month.

I've got my fingers crossed that no Stars players get hurt playing before the real games start (i.e. regular season).

Actually, I'd rather see no player get injured in this tourney. It would be pretty unfortunate and totally unnecessary.

Indeed, that's the attitude the NHL should hope to inspire in its fans with it's bestest on bestest tournament.

 

[Dr Pepper]

All we knows is that Hudler refused not to go. Unlike what you suggest, Hertl also decided not to go. Those truths in and of themselves are by no means an indictment of this tournament actually, but I am surprised that the number of players not participating is this large since they've had the whole summer to recuperate.



Indeed, that's the attitude the NHL should hope to inspire in its fans with it's bestest on bestest tournament.

.....Is it, though?

The WC will never compare to the Olympics, IMO.

Especially not with "Team Europe", or whatever that mish-mash of teams is calling itself. Same with "Team North America", having Canadian and US players on the same team, actually playing against Team Canada and Team US.

Ask an Isles fan what he thinks of the tournament, if, say, John Tavares goes into the boards the wrong way and ends up missing half the regular season. You want to bring up the attitude that the NHL is hoping to catch with its' fans, I'm thinking there won't be too many smiles out there if there's a rash of injuries on the eve of the 16/17 season.

And honestly, who marks the World Cup of Hockey on their calendar? Do kids dream of one day playing in the WC, and hoisting up that ugly trophy - while playing in an international tournament on a team with players from a different country?

 

[JackSlater]

.....Is it, though?

The WC will never compare to the Olympics, IMO.

Especially not with "Team Europe", or whatever that mish-mash of teams is calling itself. Same with "Team North America", having Canadian and US players on the same team, actually playing against Team Canada and Team US.

Ask an Isles fan what he thinks of the tournament, if, say, John Tavares goes into the boards the wrong way and ends up missing half the regular season. You want to bring up the attitude that the NHL is hoping to catch with its' fans, I'm thinking there won't be too many smiles out there if there's a rash of injuries on the eve of the 16/17 season.

And honestly, who marks the World Cup of Hockey on their calendar? Do kids dream of one day playing in the WC, and hoisting up that ugly trophy - while playing in an international tournament on a team with players from a different country?

Oh it's not a best on best tournament, as you suggest. Bestest on bestest has made up words in honour of the made up teams.

 

[Jonas1235]

Team USA basketball at the Olympics didn't have it's best team. I guess they should have called off the tourney.

Athletes get hurt. I'm sure it happened 40 years ago too.

 

[xxxx]

^^ yep.

I know I'm probably in the minority here, but right now I feel really happy there is Team Europe, after the olympic qualification just ended. You have Denmark for example, who again didn't make the olympics. Their players will certainly feel a big opportunity to play at this tournament, they will perhaps never play at the olympics. I'm pretty excited and I think people really tend to underrate these players' motivation and attitude. I'm definitely excited that we will have the opportunity to see players like Kopitar, F.Nielsen, Zuccarello, Draisaitl, Vanek together in one team competing against the other nations' best.

I feel like that one european (Russian I think) poster, who said that we north americans are getting so much of the elite competition day in and day out (NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL), that a tournament like this isn't THAT special to us anymore, but that's a mistake I think, and I really agree with that poster that we should appreciate it much more. Life is about fun, not everything is just about stricktness and rules. Having Team NA and Team Europe might seem a bit of a stretch for someone, but I definitely believe it's going to be really a showcase of the best hockey on this planet, and something that will be remembered for a long time. Book it.

 

[xxxx]

Hudler refuses to play in World Cup!
At least he isn´t picking his phone up when the coach is calling or responding to any texts. How many players are we at now that have refused, showed bad attitude to be selected or have had some soft "injuries" prohibiting them from participating?

as for those, F.Andersen, who was injured during the olympic qualification, is expected to play for Team Europe at the World Cup.

 

[Jablkon]

Just to clarify it. Krejci, Hertl and Gudas were all eager to participate. Hertl is just young and is not in Ovechkin position.....Hudler's case does not have any relation to this specific tourney imo, unless could be true that he is not ready for the early start yet.

 

[serp]

^^ yep.

I know I'm probably in the minority here, but right now I feel really happy there is Team Europe, after the olympic qualification just ended. You have Denmark for example, who again didn't make the olympics. Their players will certainly feel a big opportunity to play at this tournament, they will perhaps never play at the olympics. I'm pretty excited and I think people really tend to underrate these players' motivation and attitude. I'm definitely excited that we will have the opportunity to see players like Kopitar, F.Nielsen, Zuccarello, Draisaitl, Vanek together in one team competing against the other nations' best.

I feel like that one european (Russian I think) poster, who said that we north americans are getting so much of the elite competition day in and day out (NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL), that a tournament like this isn't THAT special to us anymore, but that's a mistake I think, and I really agree with that poster that we should appreciate it much more. Life is about fun, not everything is just about stricktness and rules. Having Team NA and Team Europe might seem a bit of a stretch for someone, but I definitely believe it's going to be really a showcase of the best hockey on this planet, and something that will be remembered for a long time. Book it.

You're underestimating how important it is for a team to have a training camp prior to a tournament . Team Europe will basically not have any preperation at all . That can work with a team of players that know each other and played together for years in juniors to real national team. This team will have as much preparation as an All-Star team and it should show. Indivual strength only gets you so far.

 

[jj cale]

Just to clarify it. Krejci, Hertl and Gudas were all eager to participate. Hertl is just young and is not in Ovechkin position.....Hudler's case does not have any relation to this specific tourney imo, unless could be true that he is not ready for the early start yet.

They would be 100& ready for a WHC shinding in Prague though.

 

[Jablkon]

They would be 100& ready for a WHC shinding in Prague though.

??? Well ok, then good to know that they are cowards and should go against their clubs next time....

No,thats not simply true. And if you think you have more informations, you don't.....Or based of what you made this prediction?

 

[Seanaconda]

You're underestimating how important it is for a team to have a training camp prior to a tournament . Team Europe will basically not have any preperation at all . That can work with a team of players that know each other and played together for years in juniors to real national team. This team will have as much preparation as an All-Star team and it should show. Indivual strength only gets you so far.

Most national teams other than Finland get to play with eachother before tournaments. Team Canada didn't have clearance before the last Olympics to practice with eachother before it started. Probably why pairs that play for the same team are selected so often but still.

 

[TimThomas24]

I think hockey fans will enjoy it. Outside of that I see interest being very minimal. Won't be like the Olympics where everyone tunes in.

 

[TheBigThree]

They should lower the prices so that regular citizens can buy the tickets. I don't know if they are banking on selling tickets to all the suits that usually go to leafs games but it's ridiculous for tickets to cost $700+ for mediocre seats. Why pay that when I can pay $50 for my cable package and watch it with a better view