GDT: Washington @ Montreal - 7EST - RDS

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WeThreeKings

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Probably because he is a top 4 dman.



Remember people using that deal as proof he was a terrible GM? Boy they must feel embarrassed! :laugh:

Lol, no he's not.

There's a reason Dallas let him go, when they had a suspect defense at best, and that's because he isn't any good.

There's a reason why Dallas fans were livid when he was signed to a 3 year deal.

There's a reason why, after Benn's initial hot streak after the trade, we saw all those negative things about Benn return to his game. That continued into the play-offs where he confirmed that he had turned back into a Pumpkin.

The fact we used an expansion draft protection slot on him is the icing on the ludicrous cake.

He's a bottom pairing, utility guy.
 

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I was never one of them. He was garbage just like so many of Bergevins other acquisitions. Who will be the 2017-18 version? There are multiple candidates this year.

DSP was garbage too though, Bergevin took a gamble and tried to get a useful player for him and it didn't work. Nothing of value was lost, sometimes you lose the gamble like Matteau and other times you get players like Danault and Byron.
 

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Lol, no he's not.

There's a reason Dallas let him go, when they had a suspect defense at best, and that's because he isn't any good.

There's a reason why Dallas fans were livid when he was signed to a 3 year deal.

There's a reason why, after Benn's initial hot streak after the trade, we saw all those negative things about Benn return to his game. That continued into the play-offs where he confirmed that he had turned back into a Pumpkin.

The fact we used an expansion draft protection slot on him is the icing on the ludicrous cake.

He's a bottom pairing, utility guy.

There was a reason the Flames let Byron go, doesn't mean it was bad to pick him up.

Sometimes players do better on their new teams than they did on their old teams and Benn is an example of that so far.

Who would you have protected instead? Emelin? I'll take Benn at 1.1 million over Emelin at 4.1 million.
 

habsgirl5000

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Crazy prices...wow. I know it isn't realistic but i'd give free tickets to schools/groups so that people who can't afford to go in reg. season could have a chance to see a game in their life.

you will never own a successful business in your life,
 

OldCraig71

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There was a reason the Flames let Byron go, doesn't mean it was bad to pick him up.

Sometimes players do better on their new teams than they did on their old teams and Benn is an example of that so far.

Who would you have protected instead? Emelin? I'll take Benn at 1.1 million over Emelin at 4.1 million.

The bad thing occurs when you forget that guys like Benn and Byron come crashing back to earth and you now have made them important members of your team.

Benn
Byron
Schlemko
Streit
Hemsky
Shaw

I could go on. Way Too many also rans that will be relied upon to help the team win and lets not also forget that we lack a true number one center to try and lead these guys. They hope it's Drouin, I am skeptical.
 

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The bad thing occurs when you forget that guys like Benn and Byron come crashing back to earth and you now have made them important members of your team.

Benn
Byron
Schlemko
Streit
Hemsky
Shaw

I could go on. Way Too many also rans that will be relied upon to help the team win and lets not also forget that we lack a true number one center to try and lead these guys. They hope it's Drouin, I am skeptical.

First, their salary is 1M.

Second, important members of your team ? Byron plays on what will be the 4th line this year with Mitchell and Shaw and Benn will play on the 3rd pair.
 

sharks9

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The bad thing occurs when you forget that guys like Benn and Byron come crashing back to earth and you now have made them important members of your team.

Benn
Byron
Schlemko
Streit
Hemsky
Shaw

I could go on. Way Too many also rans that will be relied upon to help the team win and lets not also forget that we lack a true number one center to try and lead these guys. They hope it's Drouin, I am skeptical.

When exactly will they be coming crashing back to earth? And Byron is practicing on the 4th line right now so even if he regresses a bit to "only" a 10-15 goal guy he's still perfect for his spot.

Out of all those guys only Schlemko and Hemsky appear to be slotted in for top-4/top-6 spots going into the season. If Schlemko doesn't work out that's definitely the bigger problem, but if Mete and Juulsen continue to impress they could slot into our D corps soon.

For Hemsky, if he doesn't perform it's not a huge deal to bump down to the 3rd and Lehkonen or maybe even Hudon into the top-6.

If all of them fail then obviously we'll be in trouble, but you can say the same thing about depth players on every team in the league.
 

OldCraig71

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First, their salary is 1M.

Second, important members of your team ? Byron plays on what will be the 4th line this year with Mitchell and Shaw and Benn will play on the 3rd pair.

We protected Benn in the expansion draft and we sit here without Markov,Beaulieu and Emelin. I think they value him. Shaw earns 4 million a year to play on a 4th line? The great karakterr playoff warrior better known as "Shawzie", they love him. Schlemko might play with Weber. Streit might replace Markov and Hemsky Radulov, we are looking good.:sarcasm:
 

OldCraig71

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When exactly will they be coming crashing back to earth? And Byron is practicing on the 4th line right now so even if he regresses a bit to "only" a 10-15 goal guy he's still perfect for his spot.

Out of all those guys only Schlemko and Hemsky appear to be slotted in for top-4/top-6 spots going into the season. If Schlemko doesn't work out that's definitely the bigger problem, but if Mete and Juulsen continue to impress they could slot into our D corps soon.

For Hemsky, if he doesn't perform it's not a huge deal to bump down to the 3rd and Lehkonen or maybe even Hudon into the top-6.

If all of them fail then obviously we'll be in trouble, but you can say the same thing about depth players on every team in the league.


Sad to say but I don't think that Bergevin sees depth players in the same way you do.
 

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We protected Benn in the expansion draft and we sit here without Markov,Beaulieu and Emelin. I think they value him. Shaw earns 4 million a year to play on a 4th line? The great karakterr playoff warrior better known as "Shawzie", they love him. Schlemko might play with Weber. Streit might replace Markov and Hemsky Radulov, we are looking good.:sarcasm:

We protected Benn because with his salary Las Vegas would have claimed him.

We didn't want Beaulieu back it seems so we traded for his replacement (Schlemko).

Shaw is overpaid and it seems to be a mistake by Bergevin but I will wait another year before judging....
 

MXD

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In retrospect, not protecting Emelin was stupid, but only because the whole point of not protecting him (gaining capspace) became moot due to, well, not using that capspace for a meaningful purpose.
 

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In retrospect, not protecting Emelin was stupid, but only because the whole point of not protecting him (gaining capspace) became moot due to, well, not using that capspace for a meaningful purpose.

True. It would have been better to lose Davidson (I think it was their wish).
 

sandviper

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you will never own a successful business in your life,

That is a fairly absurd statement. In terms of the poster, unless you know each other IRL, you have no idea about his background or education.

In terms of his point, there are countless examples of companies, small and large, who give back to the community. No doubt, companies have social philanthropy strategies and also no doubt such strategies are linked to their bottom line somehow, so his statement is a completely valid question.
 

MXD

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Of course, if the Montreal Canadiens were actually the Toronto Canadiens, they'd win this game and the Stanley Cup in 15 games.
 

Bryson

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Are you implying that the prices would be lower if the Habs went to the SCF last season?

Due to lack of revenue from the playoffs, il y a moin de marge de manoeuvre. At least there would be value in supporting a team that made it to the SCF instead of just one playoff win in 3 years and see ticket prices raise every year regardless of the on ice product. There are limits to price gouging. Where is value for the long time loyal season ticket holder being forced to pay full price for meangingless pre-season games?

So if you want an example of a team winning a Stanley Cup and still giving back to the fans instead of price gouging because they are the hottest ticket in town then here you go:

https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/p...sept-24-pre-season-game-vs-minnesota/c-587243
 

Deebs

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In retrospect, not protecting Emelin was stupid, but only because the whole point of not protecting him (gaining capspace) became moot due to, well, not using that capspace for a meaningful purpose.

Not in the slightest. Emelin did nothing positive except throw the occasional hit. He hurt the term with being out of position a lot of the time and making poor decisions with the puck.

Losing him and his ridiculous salary was like a gift from the 8 pound, 6 ounce little baby jesus
 
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