Was Krejci's glove-down legal?

[WJCJ]

Skating half a step is still skating with it, in the context of lobbing it past the defenseman with an underhand flip. It's not like he swatted it cleanly, he blatantly caught the puck in a way that eliminates any possibility that his hand was open, while taking forward strides, and flipped the puck past the defenseman to gain an obvious territorial advantage.

It's crazy that this is an argument right now.

That is exactly what I would have said before I read the rule.

 

[BruinsBtn]

Skating half a step is still skating with it, in the context of lobbing it past the defenseman with an underhand flip. It's not like he swatted it cleanly, he blatantly caught the puck in a way that eliminates any possibility that his hand was open, while taking forward strides, and flipped the puck past the defenseman to gain an obvious territorial advantage.

It's crazy that this is an argument right now.

You know maybe, maaaaaybe, people are going by the dozens of plays that happen like this every year that aren't called? Maybe in reality it's rarely called by the word of the law. Maybe.

 

[Beezeral]

There's no provision to blow it down. You'd have to give him a penalty. ... and given that they had just let Carolina off the hook for clearly batting the puck over the glass in the defensive zone, then you can see why the ref let it slide.

World class spin here. Hey it’s ok my team scored a goal on a horrible missed call, because they just let our opponent get away with a penalty that didn’t result in a goal.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

There's no provision to blow it down. You'd have to give him a penalty. ... and given that they had just let Carolina off the hook for clearly batting the puck over the glass in the defensive zone, then you can see why the ref let it slide.

Incorrect, the new hand pass rule has that provision to blow it down.

 

[FluffyMcAvoy]

He can bat the puck down, he cant throw the puck to give himself a 2 on 1. The rule is literally posted on this page. Take the time to read it.

The rule says he has to catch it and place it on the ice immediately. He caught it and placed it on the ice immediately. He didn't skate with it. And skating with it is what the rule is concerned about.

 

[bb_fan]

Come on now. How long have you watched hockey and you're arguing that a player should be able to grab the puck out of the air with a closed hand, throw it over the defense, and go retrieve it? Have you EVER seen something like that allowed without a penalty?

The rule clearly says: "must immediately place or knock it down to the ice". Not hold it, turn his hand over, and flip it past the defense. That's so obviously illegal that arguing about whether it's legal is starting to feel like crazy-pills.

did you not watch the play? he did not hold it, he caught it and threw it down to the ice.

this isn't very hard to get at all.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I am just looking at the rule, that is what it says, it says that a player is allowed to CATCH the puck. If I didn't read this rule I would have agreed with you but I cannot figure out how this is against this rule going by what it says. Where exactly is the violation? I just don't see it in that rule and that is what I am basing it on. Sometimes the rules are not exactly what I thought they were and what I thought was obvious really is wrong. It happens.

He's allowed to catch the puck and immediately drop it to the ice, not catch it and throw it over the defense.

I'm assuming you have seen at least as much hockey as I have, meaning we have both seen players called many times for attempting to catch-and-throw the puck illegally.

Here's an example:



Another example:

 

[Numbah4]

Hope Krejci doesn’t turn into Diego Maradona.
Off ice. #handofgod

 

[tarheelhockey]

did you not read the first paragraph at all?

Yes I did, including the part where there is very obviously a "closing hand on the puck" penalty in which the puck is NOT on the ice.

I have no idea why you would have posted that explanation, thinking nobody would notice you were pointing to the wrong part of the rule.

 

[tarheelhockey]

You know maybe, maaaaaybe, people are going by the dozens of plays that happen like this every year that aren't called? Maybe in reality it's rarely called by the word of the law. Maybe.

Please post an example of a play like this one which was allowed to stand.

 

[joe dirte]

quite blatantly closing the hand on the puck and should be a penalty. he tosses it forward so it's impossible to argue otherwise.

but admittedly they are usually pretty lax with this rule. (but this is an extreme example).

 

[BruinsBtn]

Please post an example of a play like this one which was allowed to stand.

Far worse:

 

[bob27]

Can't believe the refs missed this. Marchand deserves a 10 game suspension for this.

 

[Perrah]

The rule says he has to catch it and place it on the ice immediately. He caught it and placed it on the ice immediately. He didn't skate with it. And skating with it is what the rule is concerned about.

Read 67.1 and tell me it shouldnt have been blown down at the very least.

 

[BruinsBtn]

Far worse:

I could post 50 of them but most of the time no one is putting videos of them up because it's a silly thing to whine about.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Far worse:

And note the announcer says “he got away with it”, not “he did that legally”.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I could post 50 of them but most of the time no one is putting videos of them up because it's a silly thing to whine about.

I’m not even mad about the play, as the game was obviously one-sided at that point.

I’m just blown away that people can look at that replay and think it’s a legal play, or come up with a complete fantasy like him dribbling it off his knee. Some of the stuff posted here is just nuts.

 

[WJCJ]

He's allowed to catch the puck and immediately drop it to the ice, not catch it and throw it over the defense.

I'm assuming you have seen at least as much hockey as I have, meaning we have both seen players called many times for attempting to catch-and-throw the puck illegally.

Here's an example:



Another example:

I completely understand what you are saying but Krejci caught the puck and threw it within a fraction of a second. I guess I am not convinced that there was any intention on Krejci's part here and it seems that way because he seems to change direction after he realizes where the puck went when he threw it. Krejci is moving forward and he throws the puck forward and seems to turn like he is going to skate away but then realizes where the puck went and it fakes out the Cane player. If he intentionally did that it is quite a feat.

I think intent matters here, it seems like you are saying it doesn't matter, if that is correct then you have a point, if intent matters then I have a point. Does it say anything about that?

I have never seen anyone called for this without either holding on to it for too long or for intentionally gaining an advantage from it.

I'm willing to go with what you say, I just don't see what I think applies to this exact situation.

 

[Beezeral]

I’m not even mad about the play, as the game was obviously one-sided at that point.

I’m just blown away that people can look at that replay and think it’s a legal play, or come up with a complete fantasy like him dribbling it off his knee. Some of the stuff posted here is just nuts.

The play benefitted me as a Panthers an and I’m baffled at the comments ITT

I completely understand what you are saying but Krejci caught the puck and threw it within a fraction of a second. I guess I am not convinced that there was any intention on Krejci's part here and it seems that way because he seems to change direction after he realizes where the puck went when he threw it. Krejci is moving forward and he throws the puck forward and seems to turn like he is going to skate away but then realizes where the puck went and it fakes out the Cane player. If he intentionally did that it is quite a feat.

I think intent matters here, it seems like you are saying it doesn't matter, if that is correct then you have a point, if intent matters then I have a point. Does it say anything about that?

I have never seen anyone called for this without either holding on to it for too long or for intentionally gaining an advantage from it.

I'm willing to go with what you say, I just don't see what I think applies to this exact situation.

any 15 year old travel player has the skill to intentionally make that play. There is no doubt that he intended to throw that puck forward pass the hurricanes defenseman and chase after it.

 

[BostonBruins11]

The amount of hate the Bruins get on these boards is Hilarious.

 

[WJCJ]

The play benefitted me as a Panthers an and I’m baffled at the comments ITT

any 15 year old travel player has the skill to intentionally make that play. There is no doubt that he intended to throw that puck forward pass the hurricanes defenseman and chase after it.

Yes, he threw it forward, it would be extremely hard not to while skating up the ice and trying to get rid of it quickly. I am not really convinced that any 15 year old could make that play on purpose.

 

[Beezeral]

Yes, he threw it forward, it would be extremely hard not to while skating up the ice and trying to get rid of it quickly. I am not really convinced that any 15 year old could make that play on purpose.

Cool. It’s not hard. Players put the puck down at their feet while moving all the time. And yes. Any kid with average skill can do it. It’s not hard. You are acting like this was some incredible feet. IT wasn’t.

 

[Salem13]

Welp after watching it a bazillion times it looks like he got away with one or it was stuck in his glove and required an extra flick to get it out.

In the end only DK46 knows what happened really.


If JS74 spent more effort on the play and not wasting time waving at the ref for a call he makes a play.

 

[Tuggy]

The Bruins fans in this thread claiming it went off his knee.

Thanks for the laugh.

This 100% should not be a legal play. It's OK to admit the refs made a mistake and you caught a break.

 

[Numbah4]

The amount of hate the Bruins get on these boards is Hilarious.

Greg Campbell’s name coming up in this thread proves your point.