Was Krejci's glove-down legal?

[tarheelhockey]

Now tell us how Sedin gloving it was a textbook example too.

Sedin gloved the puck directly down to his stick. The only thing that went wrong was Thomas demonstrating that goalies are not exempt from being able to body check.

 

[Sheppy]

Should have suspended Krejci, what a gutless play.

 

[bb_fan]

Yes, the question here is less "is this illegal?" and more "is this a whistle or a penalty?".



The forward motion is pretty obvious.

Is it an overhand throw, no, but you can very clearly see his hand projecting from his body as he throws the puck forward in a flipping motion.

about friggin time someone made a slow mo gif of this.

he releases the puck as his arm comes up.

again, if you want to argue stoppage of play and face off, sure. make the argument.

penalty, not at all.

the thing is, you can also make the same argument that any added forward momentum to the puck was natural with him releasing it, not 'throwing' it.

the really hilarious part is that its a 50-50 stoppage of play on something that happens all the time that happened in less than a second and it has to get broken down into super slo motion clips to dissect to the ninth degree

 

[Killion]

NOTICE

Go after the player ('s)... go after the team.... go after officials... but DO NOT go after one another.

 

[Wolf Larsen]

Entirely legal. It was dropped to the ice but deflected off of Marchand's shnozz.

 

[BruinsBtn]

Sedin gloved the puck directly down to his stick. The only thing that went wrong was Thomas demonstrating that goalies are not exempt from being able to body check.

You've gotta be kidding me.

 

[rocketdan9]

for the second time, my team didn't play last night. My team indirectly benefited from that blown call. so thanks refs. you still got it wrong.

Fine. Bruins will beat your Panthers tomorrow to make it fair for the Hurracaines

Np

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

no,

wheres the forward hand motion here?

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puck is out of his glove, and the glove (and wrist) are not turned up or going forward at all.

You're probably not seeing the motion because that is a still. Still's don't move, hence no motion.

The inability to admit the broons caught a break is pathetic.

about friggin time someone made a slow mo gif of this.

he releases the puck as his arm comes up.

why do you think krejci is bringing his arm up?

perhaps it's to toss the puck past staal, who is set up to make a stick check in the neutral zone?

the thing is, you can also make the same argument that any added forward momentum to the puck was natural with him releasing it, not 'throwing' it.

Krejci catches the puck, brings it down to his legs (on the reverse angle the glove and the leg are the same color and lose depth perspective, which is why Bruins fans thought it went off his knee despite the angle in the OP showing it never touched his leg at all), then suddenly extends his arm in front of him in an arc. When he reaches close to the apex of that arc (note that Krejci's arm is nearly perpendicular to his body at the end) he releases the puck.

What is this called if "throwing" is not the proper term?

It's pretty clear what happened, Krejci was going to drop, but decided instantaneously to throw it past Staal instead. He got away with one. It's still inexcusable that the Hurricanes gave up a 3 goal lead with 10 minutes to go, all of which were unforced mental errors on the Hurricanes and the Broons commensurate capitalization.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Still not convinced it was a penalty, it was CLEARLY seen by 3 of the 4 officials, any of them could have called a minimum of hand pass, I still think the determining factor was one motion

I doubt the decision not to call a penalty was all that nuanced, considering they also missed the black-and-white hand pass call.

the thing is, you can also make the same argument that any added forward momentum to the puck was natural with him releasing it, not 'throwing' it.

Adding momentum to something when you release it from your hand IS the literal definition of throwing it.

the really hilarious part is that its a 50-50 stoppage of play

It's not a 50-50 stoppage, it's a 100-0 stoppage. The question is not whether the whistle should have blown, but simply whether this qualifies as closing a hand on the puck for the purpose of a penalty call.

 

[Burke the Legend]

Seems ok to me because he did immediately place/knock it down to the ice. That's all the rule states he has an obligation to do. It doesn't stipulate he has to put it down right in front of himself so knocking it forward 5 feet would be legal.

The rule states if he catches and carries it he gets a penalty, which he didn't do.

 

[bb_fan]

You're probably not seeing the motion because that is a still. Still's don't move, hence no motion.

The inability to admit the broons caught a break is pathetic.



why do you think krejci is bringing his arm up?

perhaps it's to toss the puck past staal, who is set up to make a stick check in the neutral zone?

or to release the puck from his glove. unless you seem to think he's supposed to drop it behind him??? show me a clip where any player does that.

your a day late and dollor short to the party in regrds to pathetic. for me it has nothing to do with what you state so try not to generalize an entire fan base as pathetic.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Not even remotely close to what happened

Watch it again, that's exactly what happened. Slavin had a beat on him and Krejci threw the puck across his body after closing the hand on his puck to get around him.

 

[bb_fan]

I doubt the decision not to call a penalty was all that nuanced, considering they also missed the black-and-white hand pass call.



Adding momentum to something when you release it from your hand IS the literal definition of throwing it.



It's not a 50-50 stoppage, it's a 100-0 stoppage. The question is not whether the whistle should have blown, but simply whether this qualifies as closing a hand on the puck for the purpose of a penalty call.

No, the added momentum is part of the natural motion of releasing the puck from his glove, its not throwing it.

and apparently it is a 50-50 stoppage, not a 100 stoppage, as I didn't see a stoppage, did you????

and the decision to not stop the play or call anything (seeing as how there was no penalty to call) was probably because the refs watch the actual game in this thing called real time, not slow motion gifs.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

or to release the puck from his glove. unless you seem to think he's supposed to drop it behind him???

He's supposed to drop it. Tossing if forward is a whistle.

Again, if "throwing" is not an accurate description of what Krejci is doing here, what is?

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[GoldenBearHockey]

Watch it again, that's exactly what happened. Slavin had a beat on him and Krejci threw the puck across his body after closing the hand on his puck to get around him.

Again, wrong, Krejc did not take a few stides like you said.

 

[bb_fan]

He's supposed to drop it. Tossing if forward is a whistle.

Again, if "throwing" is not an accurate description of what Krejci is doing here, what is? [mod]

releasing it forward is just fine, unless the refs deem other wise.

I wont bother with the rest of the insults.

 

[Duodenum]

Whistle should have gone but Carolina deserved to lose. Closing the hand on the puck always comes with a lot of discretion from the refs, difficult play to call.

The slow mo definitely shows the whistle should've went but the refs don't have the benefit of slow mo.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

releasing it forward is just fine, unless the refs deem other wise.
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A player is allowed to PLACE it or KNOCK it. Not THROW it.

Hand Pass - A player shall be permitted to stop or "bat" a puck in the air with his open hand, or push it along the ice with his hand, and the play shall not be stopped unless, in the opinion of the Referee, he has directed the puck to a teammate.

A player shall be permitted to catch the puck out of the air but must immediately place it or knock it down to the ice.

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

The question is whether it's a penalty or a whistle.

I can actually see why Broons fans think this is fine. He didn't "skate" with it, and hand passes are allowed as long as they're not to a teammate and in the offensive zone- the problem here is Krejci is gaining an obvious territorial advantage (hence the penalty argument), and the hand pass rule says a player can only catch the puck if he either places it down immediately, which Krejci did not, or he knocks it down, which Krejci did not.

(Plus there's the problem that, in any case, this is very clearly against the spirit of the game)

"Krejci did place it down immediately!"

or to release the puck from his glove. unless you seem to think he's supposed to drop it behind him???

Yes, if that's the only possible way he can "place" it, since that is the only possible way for Krejci to catch the puck, close his hand around it, and play it in a legal fashion.

 

[tarheelhockey]

No, the added momentum is part of the natural motion of releasing the puck from his glove, its not throwing it.

"Dropping" something means you release it into freefall. If your body is in motion at that moment, yes, the object will have an EQUAL amount of forward momentum.

"Throwing" something means you release it with forward momentum. If your body is in motion at that moment, the object will accelerate and create distance between it and yourself.

This play obviously involved the latter. It's right there in the video. Refusing to admit that is just silly. You can't "drop something forward" without throwing it, that's a nonsensical concept.

and apparently it is a 50-50 stoppage, not a 100 stoppage, as I didn't see a stoppage, did you????

and the decision to not stop the play or call anything (seeing as how there was no penalty to call) was probably because the refs watch the actual game in this thing called real time, not slow motion gifs.

Yeah, no ****... it's a blown call. That's the entire point.

If you don't see this as a blown call, either as a simply a black-and-white stoppage or a discretionary penalty, you are simply wrong and there's no helping you at this point.

 

[flapanthersfan]

LMAO, it's pretty clear for those with the use of vision that it comes off his knee.

If DK46 planned the swat down off the knee forward ... HoF now.

you must have extra special vision - you know, the kind that makes you hallucinate things.

 

[tarheelhockey]

"Dropped it forward" is like "alternative facts".

 

[BruinsBtn]

"Dropped it forward" is like "alternative facts".

Except when a Sedin does it, evidently.

 

[antiqueslivers]

10 pages over a clear penalty is EPIC! but yeah clear as day he throws the puck forward... sneaky guy to get away with that.

 

[FluffyMcAvoy]

do you understand the difference between placing/dropping something down and throwing it forward?

Yep. He placed the puck in front of him. Just ask the refs
By the way, here's the link to file a complain with the NHL: Contact Us .

 

[FluffyMcAvoy]

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/posts/142995623/



http://hfboards.mandatory.com/posts/142995513/

And how many strides did you see there?