Chili said:Wendel Clark had more talent in my opinion but Rick Tocchet accomplished more.
Both players wore down because of the style they played but Tocchet was able to play over 1100 games.
I'd give a slight edge to Tocchet but when Wendel was healthy he could be awesome.
John Flyers Fan said:I'd disagree about Clark having more talent. Clark had a better shot than Tocchet, but Tocchet was better with the puck on his stick.
Jovanovski = Norris said:I never actually seen either play (seen Tocchet play but he was way way past his prime so that doesn't count) but from what I hear, I would take Tocchet because of his effectiveness and longetivity. However, I don't doubt that Clark is the better player of the two and was the better player in his prime. However, because Clark's injuries, I think it is an easy choice for most people to take Tocchet.
It's a bit like the Perreault/Clarke arguement. Both great players, one had more flash and dash to his game. The day after a game you'd talk about a fight or big hit Clark had or a wrist shot that looked like it would go thru the back of the net. Tocchet got the same stuff done, just not with as much flair. A wrist shot off a breakaway counts for 1 just like a banged in rebound. I'd take Tocchet, though if Clark played in Mtl. he'd have been loved in La Belle Province.Chili said:I got to watch alot of both of them and when he was on his game, Clark was a dominant player. Bodies would be flying and he was the most dangerous of the Leafs on alot of nights. Sadly though, alot of his games in the second half of his career were at less than 100% health.
Tocchet was the better fighter and did many of the same things that Clark did just as well. But I seldom saw him raise his game to the level Clark did at his peak.
That's my view anyway. There's no question though, who had the better overall career and that's why I'd give the edge to Tocchet.
mcphee said:It's a bit like the Perreault/Clarke arguement. Both great players, one had more flash and dash to his game. The day after a game you'd talk about a fight or big hit Clark had or a wrist shot that looked like it would go thru the back of the net. Tocchet got the same stuff done, just not with as much flair. A wrist shot off a breakaway counts for 1 just like a banged in rebound. I'd take Tocchet, though if Clark played in Mtl. he'd have been loved in La Belle Province.
And he worked his ass off,as did Tocchet.GregStack said:Wendel.
My bias reasoning: He embodies everything I want the Leafs to be. Tough, talented players.
A 1000 hail Wendels would seem in order.GregStack said:If Clark played anywhere he'd be loved.
EDIT: Oh god...I feel sick...I spelt his name wrong...
c-carp said:1000 hails for both of them I think they are players that the game needs more of when we have a game to watch again they both knew no other way to play then balls out.
Psycho Joe said:I personally have some insider information on Clark that would make anybody question whether he was a warrior. Since I don't have a link and can't prove it, I won't post it, but feel free to PM me if you're interested. And it isn't the rumor regarding his sexual orientation.
Psycho Joe said:Tocchet is likely the most underrated power forward of all time and Clark is the most overrated. This isn't even close. Tocchet by a mile. Tocchet did everthing, better than Clark.
Clark was great on the forcheck and was a pretty good goalscorer but was a hideous puckhandler and passer and extremely poor in his own end. I don't know how many times I saw Clark hold on to the puck for too long leading to a turnover and a odd man rush for the opposition.
I personally have some insider information on Clark that would make anybody question whether he was a warrior. Since I don't have a link and can't prove it, I won't post it, but feel free to PM me if you're interested. And it isn't the rumor regarding his sexual orientation.
The Legend of Wendel Clark being a star and a warrior is largely a creation of the Toronto Media. He couldn't hold the jockstrap of guys like Tonnelli, Neely, Tocchet, Kerr and Gillies.c-carp said:Suprising that you say it isnt even close.
I saw him quite a bit and would put him equal or above everyone you listed except Neely. But fair enough.Psycho Joe said:The Legend of Wendel Clark being a star and a warrior is largely a creation of the Toronto Media. He couldn't hold the jockstrap of guys like Tonnelli, Neely, Tocchet, Kerr and Gillies.