Confirmed with Link: Walman and a 2nd Round Pick traded to SJ

Gniwder

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Nick Leddy was and is TRASH. It was determined as soon as the trade happened Yzerman FLEECED the Blues. Complete and utter felony robbery.

Don't try to rewrite history, everyone knows Yzerman fleeced them in that trade.

Yeah fleeced. Second, Sunny, and Walman for Leddy. Well, Sunny is gone and it cost a second to get rid of Walman, so in the end, Stevie got nothing for Leddy. Meanwhile, Leddy has been a serviceable d-man for the Blues until he got injured this season.

I still think he should have acquired Graves, and not Leddy to begin with. Cascading effect, we probably wouldn't have Chiarot right now.
 
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kliq

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Yeah fleeced. Second, Sunny, and Walman for Leddy. Well, Sunny is gone and it cost a second to get rid of Walman, so in the end, Stevie got nothing for Leddy. Meanwhile, Leddy has been a serviceable d-man for the Blues until he got injured this season.

I still think he should have acquired Graves, and not Leddy to begin with. Cascading effect, we probably wouldn't have Chiarot right now.
Not that this even necessarily changes anything, but we did flip Sunny for a 4th rounder which turned out to be Larry Keenan. So technically we end up with Keenan from the Leddy trade.
 

Oddbob

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Nick Leddy was and is TRASH. It was determined as soon as the trade happened Yzerman FLEECED the Blues. Complete and utter felony robbery.

Don't try to rewrite history, everyone knows Yzerman fleeced them in that trade.

Doesn't matter how Leddy is viewed. He was the piece that made that trade happen, not anything else. I am not the one rewriting history here.
 

14ari13

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If you want to talk facts, then you should mention that Walman has never had trade value. Every team that ditch him, ditch him with assets. As I pointed out earlier, look what Blues gave up to get rid of him off the team.

Hell, Grier had to be enticed to take him with a 2nd rounder.



That's his version of the story. He was healthy scratched in Detroit when they needed him most. Coach and management apparently didn't want him. I read speculation the team didn't even want him around. Blues also didn't want him around.

That's not "cope" for getting rid of him... that is the FACTS that he's had no value wherever he goes and is always healthy scratched (I don't know if Blues healthied him), but they certainly wanted him gone, and gave up valuable assets to make it happen.

Review Walman's NHL career timeline. Where there's smoke, there's fire!

Just because he can put up points doesn't mean he gets a free pass. We as fans don't get the privy to know about. We can put together a damaging timeline of his NHL existence. It'll be interesting to see how his SJ career pans out. I'll fo sho be keeping an eye on it.
Why did Yzerman trade for him in the 1st place if he, we and the whole league knew everything about him?
How many teams wanted to get rid of him, 25?
He is a top 10 on points in the league today?

So why is a top 10 defenceman in points in the league valued this little?

Why didn't Yzerman trade him when his value was at his peak?

Walman, Hronek Suter...are doing great with their new teams. Why did Yzerman get rid of them?
 

Oddbob

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Why did Yzerman trade for him in the 1st place if he, we and the whole league knew everything about him?
How many teams wanted to get rid of him, 25?
He is a top 10 on points in the league today?

So why is a top 10 defenceman in points in the league valued this little?

Why didn't Yzerman trade him when his value was at his peak?

Walman, Hronek Suter...are doing great with their new teams. Why did Yzerman get rid of them?

Did you see Suter here? He wasn't good at all.
 

ricky0034

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Nick Leddy was and is TRASH. It was determined as soon as the trade happened Yzerman FLEECED the Blues. Complete and utter felony robbery.

Don't try to rewrite history, everyone knows Yzerman fleeced them in that trade.

someone should probably tell St. Louis how much he sucks so they stop playing him 22 minutes a night

and Yzerman himself paid a 2nd for Leddy too literally not even a year before trading him
 

Henkka

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On the trade time Leddy was just atricious.

He was also pretty bad for St. Louis under Berube.

Since the coahing change there (Berube fired for Bannister), he has been pretty good.
 

izlez

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They are just hot right now. 2 teams knew what kind of game he brings and still payed to get rid of him. Think of that as proof of what a problem he must be off the ice. He has a reputation that is still behind closed doors and unfortunately tanks his trade value despite being a good player. He has Jakub Vrána type value.

Have no problem with people being upset by the trade though, it sucks.
Walman had 8 career NHL points when we acquired him. He was hardly mentioned in our trade thread and the vast majority of Blues fans don't look like they were concerned losing him at the time.

They certainly didn't know that they had a near point per game defender when they got rid of him.
 

Dotter

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Doesn't matter how Leddy is viewed. He was the piece that made that trade happen, not anything else. I am not the one rewriting history here.
Looks like a cap dump to me. Leddy was TRASH. Is another man's treasure - Blues suck this season and went from a 109 point season to 81 point season after Leddy's first season with the blues. DNQ every season thereafter, and now they suck just as bad as Detroit right now. If Leddy was supposed to be their saviour, then he's doing it wrong!

Yzerman ultimately got Kiiskinen and Larry Keenan out of the deal. Walman was a swing and miss... now he gets to get healthy scratched on SJ Sharks randomly out of the blue like he was here in Detroit.... It's almost like there's some kind of pattern with him.

I'll take Kiiskinen and Larry Keenan and call it a win.
 

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