W Nikita Kucherov (2011, 58th overall, Tampa Bay)

[AidanPhalen13*]

Big no.

Why? Do you know him?

 

[Fulcrum]

Why? Do you know him?

I think he has a contract with CSKA that will keep him there for a few years. He isn't going to rip up the contract and come over, that's not done anymore - Kuznetsov, Tarasenko are in the same boat.

He also fully realizes that he is not ready for the NHL, yet! I think TBL fans, in the end will want him to play at the highest level possible for him- and that is certainly KHL, not CHL or AHL.


From now on, it'll be interesting to see who develops better- Kucherov or Grigorenko.

 

[chasespace]

If I'm remembering correctly he is currently under contract until the summer that immediately follow the Sochi Olympics. His plan was to stay in Russia to develop, thus increasing his chances to play for the Olympic squad then he would decide on whether to stay in the KHL or move to the NHL after that.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Why? Do you know him?

Peter25 believes that any Russian prospect who comes to NA to develop is completely, utterly ruined.

 

[Kshahdoo]

If I'm remembering correctly he is currently under contract until the summer that immediately follow the Sochi Olympics. His plan was to stay in Russia to develop, thus increasing his chances to play for the Olympic squad then he would decide on whether to stay in the KHL or move to the NHL after that.

He'll be 21 then. Good age to cross the pond...

 

[vorky]

From now on, it'll be interesting to see who develops better- Kucherov or Grigorenko.

I put my bucks for Kucherov.

 

[pouskin74*]

I put my bucks for Kucherov.

my money is on Grigorenko

 

[vorky]

my money is on Grigorenko

fine we will see. I think Kucherov will be best rookie of next KHL season

 

[pouskin74*]

fine we will see. I think Kucherov will be best rookie of next KHL season

i hope you right. he is awesome prospect.

 

[Eugene85]

I put my bucks for Kucherov.

Kucherov is very good, but he is not on Grigorenko level.

 

[Fulcrum]

Kucherov is very good, but he is not on Grigorenko level.

really? Kucherov- KHL; Grigorenko - CHL...

 

[Granlund2Pulkkinen*]

Kucherov is very good, but he is not on Grigorenko level.

Lol Grigorenko will be in Quebec next season.

 

[Bure]

Lol Grigorenko will be in Quebec next season.

I think he meant grigorenko has potential to be a a lot better

 

[Bolt32]

I think he has a contract with CSKA that will keep him there for a few years. He isn't going to rip up the contract and come over, that's not done anymore - Kuznetsov, Tarasenko are in the same boat.

He also fully realizes that he is not ready for the NHL, yet! I think TBL fans, in the end will want him to play at the highest level possible for him- and that is certainly KHL, not CHL or AHL.


From now on, it'll be interesting to see who develops better- Kucherov or Grigorenko.

In all honesty I would rather him develop in the KHL than the CHL. No culture shock to deal with, close to his friends and family. Prior to what people thing, 18 years are very fragile emotionally. If he came over to the CHL he would be in a country with no friends, doesn't speak the language and family. His support group will be gone. Least in the KHL he will have a very high level of play to keep up with, and hopefully his friends and family can keep his head on straight. If that happens, I think he could turn out to be a star.

 

[Kshahdoo]

CSKA beat Atlant in Moscow's Mayor Cup 3-2. Kucherov scored twice (including game winner on power play in overtime).

 

[pouskin74*]

CSKA beat Atlant in Moscow's Mayor Cup 3-2. Kucherov scored twice (including game winner on power play in overtime).

he awesome

 

[Bob Barker]

How would Kucherov compare to Maxim Kitsyn? Kirill Petrov? Kirill Kabanov?
Also, is Kucherov worth drafting for my hockey pool farm team?

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

really? Kucherov- KHL; Grigorenko - CHL...

Um, if you want to develop a NHL player, the CHL is the best and most proven route. Unless you mean Kucherov will be a better KHL player?

For a big center like Grigorenko, you'd much rather him play in North America as soon as possible. If he can combine his skill set with a physical two way game, he'll be a superstar.

Plus, the longer a player stays overseas playing for a big club like CSKA, the lower his chances become of ever coming over (and skills translating). They'll likely be able to offer him a bigger contract than a NHL ELC if he does tear it up over the next couple years.

 

[knifer]

Um, if you want to develop a NHL player, the CHL is the best and most proven route. Unless you mean Kucherov will be a better KHL player?

For a big center like Grigorenko, you'd much rather him play in North America as soon as possible. If he can combine his skill set with a physical two way game, he'll be a superstar.

Plus, the longer a player stays overseas playing for a big club like CSKA, the lower his chances become of ever coming over (and skills translating). They'll likely be able to offer him a bigger contract than a NHL ELC if he does tear it up over the next couple years.

Name 5 good russian NHLers from the CHL.

 

[J17 Vs Proclamation]

Um, if you want to develop a NHL player, the CHL is the best and most proven route. Unless you mean Kucherov will be a better KHL player?

For a big center like Grigorenko, you'd much rather him play in North America as soon as possible. If he can combine his skill set with a physical two way game, he'll be a superstar.

Plus, the longer a player stays overseas playing for a big club like CSKA, the lower his chances become of ever coming over (and skills translating). They'll likely be able to offer him a bigger contract than a NHL ELC if he does tear it up over the next couple years.

How many times does this topic have to come up before people finally stop using this absurd argument.

It's been proven over and over again, that the best development route for European players is not the CHL. Give it up, or give us some actual statistical data to counter-act the proven stance we have now.

 

[Bure]

Name 5 good russian NHLers from the CHL.

This this this. MOST russians need a lot of time in Russia just to grow into their bodies and become confortable in their homeland, then they should come over. I think going to NA before being NHL is a mistake for most Russians.

 

[Lottery Oilers*]

Name 5 good russian NHLers from the CHL.

There isn't that many good Russian NHLers, period. I'm not trying to provoke but only 9 Russians had more than 30 points last year and only 5 Russians had more than 50 points.

I think times are changing though with Loktionov, Kulikov, Burmistrov, Namestnikov, Khokhlachev + the guys coming over this year.. were going to see more good Russians developed from the CHL.

I think money has been a bigger factor than development in the past. Most of the good Russians are already making good money in Russia so they stay in Russia for the money.. not for some key development ingredient.

 

[Kshahdoo]

There isn't that many good Russian NHLers, period. I'm not trying to provoke but only 9 Russians had more than 30 points last year and only 5 Russians had more than 50 points.

I think times are changing though with Loktionov, Kulikov, Burmistrov, Namestnikov, Khokhlachev + the guys coming over this year.. were going to see more good Russians developed from the CHL.

I think money has been a bigger factor than development in the past. Most of the good Russians are already making good money in Russia so they stay in Russia for the money.. not for some key development ingredient.

Do you mean that scoring is the only thing in hockey? There is the other side you know...

 

[Bure]

There isn't that many good Russian NHLers, period. I'm not trying to provoke but only 9 Russians had more than 30 points last year and only 5 Russians had more than 50 points.

I think times are changing though with Loktionov, Kulikov, Burmistrov, Namestnikov, Khokhlachev + the guys coming over this year.. were going to see more good Russians developed from the CHL.

I think money has been a bigger factor than development in the past. Most of the good Russians are already making good money in Russia so they stay in Russia for the money.. not for some key development ingredient.

They stay in Russia because it's their homeland, where they feel confortable developing.

 

[Blind Gardien]

This is a thread about Kucherov, btw. So fair warning that any larger scale sidetrack into the general topic of KHL vs. CHL development past this point will be deleted. It has been done to death. Many of us are very interested in hearing about Kucherov.