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W Joshua Roy - Laval Rocket, AHL (2021, 150th, MTL)

He's certainly a high hockey IQ player

He has the same kind of playing style and qualities than Suzuki, all in anticipation prowess and chirurgical execution.
 
2 apples yesterday. Was our 2nd best forward after Suzuki. Guy is a beast and I suspect he will only get better with his IQ.
You can see with the way his stick handles that this is a high talent player.
 
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He'll be an NHL player, he has made his due diligence in terms of junior and AHL.

Maybe he's gonna be sent down for the playoffs if it happens for Laval, but if he continues to show progress in the NHL, his place is in MTL.
 
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I'm interested to see if he can keep this up. If so, maybe he'll earn his way back to Montreal and hopefully have learned some valuable lessons.
 
Not a good development year for Roy. He stagnated this year. Hopefully he picks it up next year and come ready at camp because he won’t have too many chances to show what he can do at the NHL level
 
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Baksfamous112 said:
Not a good development year for Roy. He stagnated this year. Hopefully he picks it up next year and come ready at camp because he won’t have too many chances to show what he can do at the NHL level
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He's simply not an NHL caliber type of player.

Maybe he gets a new look somewhere else with expansion but there are literally dozens of guys like him that just don't make it and newer younger projects replace them and it repeats.
 
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wetcoast said:
He's simply not an NHL caliber type of player.

Maybe he gets a new look somewhere else with expansion but there are literally dozens of guys like him that just don't make it and newer younger projects replace them and it repeats.
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He’s got a lot of work to do to get there but he’s only 21. Still has room to grow. He’s so close but so far away at the same time
 
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Baksfamous112 said:
He’s got a lot of work to do to get there but he’s only 21. Still has room to grow. He’s so close but so far away at the same time
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He will be 22 going into next season and has 4 post draft years already.

His ticket is as an offensive top 6 winger and he just doesn't have enough offense to punch it.

Take Nick Lardis, similar type in that he is smaller more projection type and basically has to be a top 6 to make it and his progression has been better and he still faces an uphill l battle.
 
Roy had his chance this past fall, and he blew it. I don't know where the player I saw last year went. He showed promise as a responsible two-way middle 6er.

But at the last training camp, he was literally invisible, and he fully earned his demotion to Laval. And the games that I've watched him play this year have left me completely unimpressed.

If he doesn't get his sh*t together, he will be left behind by several prospects. ATM, he is trending to be the next Charles Hudon.
 
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wetcoast said:
He's simply not an NHL caliber type of player.
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He has the skills and abilities to be an NHL'er save for what's in his head. It isn't because a lack of hockey IQ, lack of toolbox either. It's intensity and drive that's absent. As we say in French he wants everything "tout cru dans la bouche." He has to want a spot, he needs some more hustle in his game. I'm not asking him to play physical just stop loafing around for crissakes.
 
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He has the skills and abilities to be an NHL'er save for what's in his head. It isn't because a lack of hockey IQ, lack of toolbox either. It's intensity and drive that's absent. As we say in French he wants everything "tout cru dans la bouche." He has to want a spot, he needs some more hustle in his game. I'm not asking him to play physical just stop loafing around for crissakes.
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Sure lots of players are in this situation but he is entering his 5 post draft season and the changes needed haven't come and are unlikely to at this point.

Also the Habs have other younger younger competing with long runways and more options in the lineup to Roy now.

That's the reality with many prospects not just Roy.
 
Roy's development from his draft year to 2023-2024 season was great.

He seemed to have put his past reputation of laziness and taking things for granted, relying a lot on his natural offensive tools (good variety of quality shots, high hockey IQ, high quality execution, quality of his passing game, etc..), behind him.

The 23-24 season was a good one for him.
He adapted smoothly to the AHL and he didn't looked out of place in the 20 something games in the NHL he had.

But he has seemed to fall back into his old self in the 2024 summer.

He looked like a guy who was taking things for granted in the 24 Habs pre season camp.
I don't know how seriously he took his '24 summer training, but he looked a little out of shape.

I think he taught he was already arrived, but he got an unpleasant surprise : the NHL, with its millions at stake, is no kindergarten for guys taking things for granted.
Even more when you're in his situation.

His sub average skating is what holding him back. If he had a relentless motor to compensate, because his IQ is clearly above average, hed still be an NHL option.

But right now, he's clearly in Charles Hudon territory.
 
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