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W/C Zachary Benson - (2023, 13th, BUF)

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EddieTheEagle said:
I don't disagree with you but obviously, both players bring a totally different style of game. I also don't think Canadians would complain about the team, given the outcome.

Benson has had a fiiiiire preseason and really hope he can continue his play over an 82 game stretch. Congrats, Sabres! Adding riches to riches.
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Outcome or not he was robbed not being on that team. Benson plays the kinda style Canadians like too, so I don’t get that argument, prob more so than even Dach, who will prob top out as a bottom-six forward if he makes it.
 
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I had Benson as a top 3 pick from a pure talent standpoint. Impact-wise think Marchand without the antics (smaller, average speed but dynamite compete level, skill-level and oozing with hockey IQ). Really jealous of the Sabres who already have a stacked core of young players, would praying that the Hawks would find a way to trade up for him lol
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That’s a fantastic comparison. I see that.
 
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I’ll throw my hat in the ring for being a big Benson fan. From last August.

Easily my favorite player on the Canadian Hlinka team this year. Might not be the best, although I think he's up there, but very fun type of player to watch play. His sense, touch, creativity is all high NHL caliber already. I'd be surprised if this guy wasn't at minimum some 2nd line PP specialist in the NHL. The skating isn't great and I can see how it's a concern given he's 5'10 150, but I don't think it's bad. I think of that Canada team he also has the highest potential on the team. I could see the scenario where this guy scores 100+ points in the NHL. He's a little like Cole Perfetti to me in how he profiles, and I think he'll probably go in the same range. The size/skating is a question, but there is very high offensive potential.
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Seriously, if you weren’t a big fan of Benson, WTF is wrong with you? I say that half jokingly.
 
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It is going to be an interesting nine games. He’s going to play with good players and if he produces and plays well…it’s going to be hard to send him back. But….what’s going to happen with Savoie? He’s still here and just started skating. He’s not allowed to play in the AHL EXCEPT on a two week conditioning assignment. Which…when he’s ready to play they almost certainly will send him on.

It’s funny that they’re both on the same WHL team because they’re even more intertwined right now with their ELCs, WJC, and lack of AHL availability.

All that said. I don’t believe one of them (or Kulich) ending up having their contract starting is a bad thing. Theyll all 100% be in the NHL next year. Savoie and Kulich have their ELCs start either way next year. If none of them start the clock they all come up at the same time three years Later. Not to mention the headache of breaking in that many rookie forwards at the same time when youre trying to win.

Someone really has to lock down an actual spot this year.
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Next September will be a dog fight for spots. There's a couple other guys that could be ready in Rosen, Rousek on a one way, wouldn't rule out Kozak and maybe even Novikov on the back end. You can't ice 4, 5 or 6 rookies in a season with high expectations, can you?
 
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Matt Ress said:
Next September will be a dog fight for spots. There's a couple other guys that could be ready in Rosen, Rousek on a one way, wouldn't rule out Kozak and maybe even Novikov on the back end. You can't ice 4, 5 or 6 rookies in a season with high expectations, can you?
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I’ve been struggling to figure out how they’re going to deal with the glut of rookies coming for a while now.

gun to my head? Adams’s failure to address goalie and top 4 defense forces him to finally trade good pieces for good players and it works itself out. At the cost of yet another year.
 
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Matt Ress said:
Next September will be a dog fight for spots. There's a couple other guys that could be ready in Rosen, Rousek on a one way, wouldn't rule out Kozak and maybe even Novikov on the back end. You can't ice 4, 5 or 6 rookies in a season with high expectations, can you?
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Realistically maybe one of those guys actually pan out.
 
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Pavels Dog said:
Realistically maybe one of those guys actually pan out.
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He’s talking about Benson, Kulich and Savoie too. Along with Ryan Johnson and Rosen. Five first round picks who have developed big or are Benson. Kozak and Rousek are seen as bottom six replacement candidates for Okposo and Girgensons.

If you think Kulich, Savoie and Benson, at the least, won’t be ready by next year…you arent following their careers.
 
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Ace said:
He’s talking about Benson, Kulich and Savoie too. Along with Ryan Johnson and Rosen. Five first round picks who have developed big or are Benson. Kozak and Rousek are seen as bottom six replacement candidates for Okposo and Girgensons.

If you think Kulich, Savoie and Benson, at the least, won’t be ready by next year…you arent following their careers.
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Overcook Savoie. Give him an AHL year. Won’t kill him. Trade one of Kulich or Rosen. Those guys are good, but not so good that they are both needed. Get a defensive upgrade. Johnson I’d think with the Sabres depth chart could see games this year, and might not be a true rookie next season.

This seems overblown. There’s a team or two like this every year that has an amazing prospect pool while they try to transition to contending. It works itself out.

The Rangers had Schneider (1st round), Lundkvist (1st round), Jones (would be 1st/2nd in a re-draft) competing for 2 spots on our bottom pair with four top four defensemen 27 or under, and it’s turning into Schneider has a spot, Jones doesn’t really and is now our 7D because he hasn’t been traded yet and can go on waivers, and Lundkvist was traded for a first round pick. We rotated bums like Harpur and Mikkola on the bottom pair with Schneider last season instead of Jones. It all works itself out. You might not like the outcomes. It’s true you won’t play all of them on the same team and you might get some infuriating outcome where less of them than you think end up playing, but most likely if any of them end up stars you’ll find a spot for them and some of the role players are probably in the wrong organization. Bad luck on their part.
 
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EddieTheEagle said:
Aside from the massive amount of Habs fans on here, I don't think you'll like the outcome of the Kirby Dach vs. Zach Benson poll....
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unless you have a crystal ball, a poll 5 years from now speculating on how a now 18 years old player is better than a now 21 years olf player is quite impossible to predict.

But I like the odds that Kirby will be a better player than Benson, you feel like it could be the other way? fine, but lets stop acting like we know for sure lol

By the way I love Benson, and I would have drafted him over Reinbacher at 5th last year...but, Kirby just oozes confidence now and he's tough player to play against on the ice, I would not bet against him
 
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unless you have a crystal ball, a poll 5 years from now speculating on how a now 18 years old player is better than a now 21 years olf player is quite impossible to predict.

But I like the odds that Kirby will be a better player than Benson, you feel like it could be the other way? fine, but lets stop acting like we know for sure lol

By the way I love Benson, and I would have drafted him over Reinbacher at 5th last year...but, Kirby just oozes confidence now and he's tough player to play against on the ice, I would not bet against him
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Dach is 22, will be 23 in 3 1/2 months.
 
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Matt Ress said:
Next September will be a dog fight for spots. There's a couple other guys that could be ready in Rosen, Rousek on a one way, wouldn't rule out Kozak and maybe even Novikov on the back end. You can't ice 4, 5 or 6 rookies in a season with high expectations, can you?
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The Habs had 4 regular rookies on D last year and at times had 5 of them play every night, alongside a couple rookies up front. The Sabres have a much better prospect pool than Montreal. So yes, they can
 
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Number 57 said:
The Habs had 4 regular rookies on D last year and at times had 5 of them play every night, alongside a couple rookies up front. The Sabres have a much better prospect pool than Montreal. So yes, they can
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How'd that work out?
--"season with high expectations."
 
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The Yotes could've had Michkov and Benson in their system and passed on both still blows my mind.
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Did they pass or did Michkov tell them he did not want to play there? He was writing his own ticket. In the case of Benson they likely looked and said, we have that skill set in Keller/Cooley and we need size, meanness and skill. But and especially Simishev are misunderstood but both will one day make Arizona an infinitely better team when it counts.
 
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Man if little benson has this much success this early then imagine michkov.
 
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