If the Habs want to play it safe they can take Dickinson at 5 the and no need to trade some Dmen can play off hand.
I just think there are much better prospects with less risk and higher ceiling combinations at that spot.
W Beckett Sennecke - Oshawa Generals, OHL (2024, 3rd, ANA)
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I just think there are much better prospects with less risk and higher ceiling combinations at that spot.
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
That's fine but it's clear the Habs feel more than comfortable on their left shot D, and so they are rightfully going to invest their high value pick on a high value player at a position they need.
This isn't a draft where people are convinced there's a clear BPA, you poll one scout team and they might have one defenseman at the top and one at the bottom and the next it's inverse.
Anardil
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Interesting mention regarding Sennecke in Wheelers recent mailbag from Athletic.
"Everyone saw the skill and the potential, but as one OHL coach told me, he had a lot of bad habits he needed to break, a tendency to play one-on-one too much, and wavering competitiveness. There were also benchings and off-ice questions. In a survey of a few people early on this season, everyone handicapped him as a late-first. One coach even questioned if he’d take him in the first."
He later on clarifies that things have changed a bit for the better.
Will be interesting to see how he develops and if there has been growth. Also how will Sennecke react when things go not his way.
He has skill and size but not necessarily speed, I have only seen one game so far though. Probably top 15-20ish pick in my books but some of the stuff is just impossible to see through video only.
"Everyone saw the skill and the potential, but as one OHL coach told me, he had a lot of bad habits he needed to break, a tendency to play one-on-one too much, and wavering competitiveness. There were also benchings and off-ice questions. In a survey of a few people early on this season, everyone handicapped him as a late-first. One coach even questioned if he’d take him in the first."
He later on clarifies that things have changed a bit for the better.
Will be interesting to see how he develops and if there has been growth. Also how will Sennecke react when things go not his way.
He has skill and size but not necessarily speed, I have only seen one game so far though. Probably top 15-20ish pick in my books but some of the stuff is just impossible to see through video only.
I just think that if Catton was available that I would take him and my guess is that if they pass on him, like they passed on Michov then they will regret it but we shall see.
There also is rarely any consensus on players as each team has their own scouting departments and even the scouting services we have public access to have vastly different ratings most years.
Without looking my guess is that the Oshawa winger isn't on most top 10 lists.
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
He's top 5 on one and top 10 on 2 others. Bob McKenzies list indicates that.
Perhaps but the highest on the list of 18 different rankings on elite prospects has him at 17 and the lowest at 45.
McKenizie's consolidated list has him at #19.
Beckett Sennecke - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Beckett Sennecke, 2006-01-28 Toronto, ON, CAN Canada. Most recently in the undefined with Oshawa Generals. Complete player biography and stats.
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Leto
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Perhaps but the highest on the list of 18 different rankings on elite prospects has him at 17 and the lowest at 45.
McKenizie's consolidated list has him at #19.
Beckett Sennecke - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Beckett Sennecke, 2006-01-28 Toronto, ON, CAN Canada. Most recently in the undefined with Oshawa Generals. Complete player biography and stats.
McKenzie updated his list last week. Sennecke is now 14th.
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
Any public list doesn't matter if NHL teams and scouts have them higher
Exactly but if the Habs take him at 5th and leave catton on the board they will regret it and I will be here, good natured of course, to remind them about it.
FrozenKing18
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I was watching this kid hoping he’ll fall to the Kings as he could complement Byfield in a couple seasons. No chance of that now, he’s killing it!
DANOZ28
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it bothers me that he had just a meh / avg season and now hes tearing it up in the playoffs , ? why the difference? red flag for me. doesn't make him horrible just not the pick i want at #13.
Since the turn of the New Year his game has been progressing on a sharp curve. That isn’t a cause to be concerned.
Juxtaposer
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In the grand scheme of things, 22 points in 16 games isn’t exactly lighting the world on fire for a draft eligible in the OHL, is it? From the way people are talking about him “dominating”, I kind of expected that he was at like 2+ PPG in the playoffs.
I suspect Habs are taking Lindstrom or Iginla. Maybe they package the Jets pick and try and advance into the middle of the first round for Sennecke
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The most recent case of a team moving in the 1st round of the draft is Arizona in 2022. The price was one late 1st round pick + two 2nd round picks. So the price should in that ball park. Montreal has Colorado's 2024 2nd round pick, but not their own.
malcb33
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If SJ sees’s value in Harris or Struble and would be interested in trading back, I would love to see Hughes be aggressive with the Winnipeg pick. I would be comfortable with that type of value, as IMO the Habs need to come away from this draft with potential impact forwards.
It's possible if a team offers enough.
I think this year the cost to move up would be higher. There seems to be a steep drop off in the mid first.
So are the Habs willing to offer four picks?
I can't see San Jose being swayed by a spare player.
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As a Sharks fan, that's a pass.
Sharks already have multiple picks in both rounds 1 and 2. They also need quality over quantity
Juxtaposer
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Stop fantasizing about the Sharks trading down from 14 to 27 for f***ing Jordan Harris. And please tell your fellow Habs fans to stop making horrible trade-up proposals. If you want to give us Reinbacher for 14+, we can talk. Otherwise, absolutely zero interest in trading down from 14 to 27.
TheDoldrums
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I went to a couple Oshawa games this year and Sennecke never impressed me. Feel like his game is very "junior." Has size and some great tools so can get away without playing a pro style game within the system. Selfish isn't the right word, but it's like he was playing his own game rather than being cohesive with his teammates.
Honestly shocked when I was reading about him being in the mix as high as the 5th pick. I think there's definitely above-average bust potential at a spot like that.
Honestly shocked when I was reading about him being in the mix as high as the 5th pick. I think there's definitely above-average bust potential at a spot like that.
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