Blue Jays Discussion: Vladdy has signed 14 yr/500mil

[dredeye]

I assume they will trade everyone worth a damn for prospects this TDL and kinda do a retool on the fly

That's the hope but the east looks bad this year so they may waste pieces chasing false hope. My hope is we fall well enough back that they have to sell but Bo and Bassit have great seasons. With some luck Scherzer comes back and pitches well and we trade him as well. Problem is I don't trust this front office evaluating talent

 

[dredeye]

Ya the drafting has sucked. However, the last two drafts have plenty of promise. Still early though.

Every year there's hope on the drafts that just happened.

 

[canucksfan]

Every year there's hope on the drafts that just happened.

Next league prospect updates, the Jays will likely have a top 30 and a top 50 prospect. That hasn't happened recently. Barrieria had hope when he was drafted, but was quickly injured in his first pro season.

There's also some nice prospects that could sneak into the top 100.

 

[Canada4Gold]

latest rumblings on the draft has it being weak at the top but has a pretty consensus top 8. With us at 8 I guess that's a good thing, though getting the last guy in a tier that those above us didn't want could be a negative as well if the draft does play out that way. Still time for stuff to change obviously with the MLB draft being the most volatile of all the major sports. Kiley McDaniel doesn't think we take the HS pitcher in Seth Hernandez if he's the one who drops to us. That would then leave us with someone from the next tier. Sounds like that's on principal that HS righties are too volatile of a demographic, and doesn't sound like we're alone in that thought. He has him going 1, 2, 3 or dropping to 9+.

I have a gut feeling the Jays are going to draft Aiden Stillman overslot in the 3rd or 4th round. I know nothing about him except he's a high school lefty out of Florida ranked in that range which the Jays usually have 1 of every draft right around that area.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

latest rumblings on the draft has it being weak at the top but has a pretty consensus top 8. With us at 8 I guess that's a good thing, though getting the last guy in a tier that those above us didn't want could be a negative as well if the draft does play out that way. Still time for stuff to change obviously with the MLB draft being the most volatile of all the major sports.

I have a gut feeling the Jays are going to draft Aiden Stillman overslot in the 3rd or 4th round. I know nothing about him except he's a high school lefty out of Florida ranked in that range which the Jays usually have 1 of every draft right around that area.

I think if the guy they really want doesn't make it to our first pick, we should cut a deal with someone ranked further down like Summerhill, Irish, or Taylor and use the savings to buy out a faller or two in the 3rd and 4th round. It sucks that we lost our 2nd rounder for the privilege of watching Santander suck.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

New top 200 draft ranking.

https://www.mlb.com/milb/news/mlb-s-top-200-draft-prospects-for-2025?t=mlb-draft-coverage

Top 10:
1. Ethan Holliday, SS/3B, Stillwater HS, Okla.
2. Seth Hernandez, RHP, Corona HS, Calif.
3. Kade Anderson, LHP, Louisiana State
4. Jamie Arnold, LHP, Florida State
5. Eli Willits, SS, Fort Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla.
6. Aiva Arquette, 2B, Oregon State
7. Billy Carlson, SS, Corona HS, Calif.
8. Kyson Witherspoon, RHP, Oklahoma
9. Liam Doyle, LHP, Tennessee
10. JoJo Parker, SS, Purvis HS, Miss.

 

[canucksfan]

Keith Law released his top fifty prospects today. Nimmala is 37 and Yesavage is 47. Stephen gets an honorable mention.

 

[Eyedea]

Good to see nearly every acquisition Atkins made in the offseason is in "oof" territory.

Scherzer; old, can't stay healthy, has barely pitched (this one was avoidable too given how his time post Washington has went)

Santander: Awful when healthy, even more so now that he's still battling hip/shoulder issues. I won't call it over yet given guys much smarter than me like Keegan Matheson believe Santander will be better once healthy, but there's no spinning how bad the start of that deal has been.

Gimenez: Sub 600 OPS, i forgot he exists half the time. Awful, awful trade.

Hoffman: Looked fantastic in April but then proceeded to run full speed into a wall. 5+ ERA with a 1.1 WHIP suggests he's not as bad as he's looked, but still.

The tally thus far:

Scherzer: 0 WAR (15.5 million for one year)
Gimenez: 0.9 WAR (10 million yearly)
Hoffman: -0.3 WAR (11 million yearly)
Santander: -0.7 WAR (18.5 million yearly)

Put together that's a total of 0.1 WAR in 50+ games for a total of 55 million. Bang up job, Ross.

Yeah but now you have to add the elite acquisitions like Heineman, Straw, and Lauer into the mix.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Yeah but now you have to add the elite acquisitions like Heineman, Straw, and Lauer into the mix.

Fair;

Lauer: 0.4 WAR (2.2 million)
Straw: 0.7 WAR (6.4 million)
Hieneman: 1.0 WAR (780K)

add that to the last post and it's more like 2.2 WAR for 64 million.

 

[Eyedea]

Fair;

Lauer: 0.4 WAR (2.2 million)
Straw: 0.7 WAR (6.4 million)
Hieneman: 1.0 WAR (780K)

add that to the last post and it's more like 2.2 WAR for 64 million.

See, much better!

To be honest the only stinker I see thus far is Santander. Scherzer was a risk but the upside was clearly there, even if he only pitched 100 or so innings. Hoffman strengthens the pen, even if he’s had some stinkers I think overall he’ll be quite the weapon for a much deeper bullpen.

Gimenez might be faulty based on roster construction, but he’s still good for 2-3 wins on defence + positional adjustment alone. I don’t think anybody expected Clement to be in platinum glove territory this year, but that could potentially free up another cost conscious asset to move for upgrades anyway. Gimenez was also seen as a security for if/when Bo leaves.

Santander just looks lost and completely uninterested in playing the game. Like a 2011 post-TDL Colby Rasmus.

 

[canucksfan]

Charles McAdoo has had a poor start to the year. He was sent down to the developmental complex, and since his return on Tuesday, he already has two homers.

 

[Discoverer]

See, much better!

To be honest the only stinker I see thus far is Santander. Scherzer was a risk but the upside was clearly there, even if he only pitched 100 or so innings. Hoffman strengthens the pen, even if he’s had some stinkers I think overall he’ll be quite the weapon for a much deeper bullpen.

Gimenez might be faulty based on roster construction, but he’s still good for 2-3 wins on defence + positional adjustment alone. I don’t think anybody expected Clement to be in platinum glove territory this year, but that could potentially free up another cost conscious asset to move for upgrades anyway. Gimenez was also seen as a security for if/when Bo leaves.

Santander just looks lost and completely uninterested in playing the game. Like a 2011 post-TDL Colby Rasmus.

So far, the best piece in the Gimenez-Horwitz trade has been... Nick Sandlin.

 

[canucksfan]

Since May 16th Nimmala, has walked more than he has struck out. His K rate is 12.7% in that span. That doesn't include his 1 for 4 with no Ks. wRC of 183 as well.

Enmanuel Bonilla might be showing some life in the FCL. After a horrendous start, his last 6 games have been much better. Walks and SOs are the same, and he has a wRC of 176.