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Larry Brooks: Vitaly Kravtsov headed back to the KHL

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nyr2k2 said:
I'm still annoyed by this, but not as much. I firmly believe that from an "experience" perspective he'd be better off in the AHL. However, if he simply can't handle being here at the moment, or everyone agrees he's not ready for it, the I guess KHL it is. Without knowing all the facts I could find plenty of blame for the player, or plenty for the team (or both). But the situation is what it is, and now it's just about hoping that what he's doing is what's best for him. I just hope he comes back more prepared, whether that's mentally, emotionally, physically, or whatever.
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From my standpoint, the “which league is better for his development” conversation has always been second to the one about the Rangers permanently damaging their relationship with VK. I too can live with him playing a season in the KHL.

There are just far too many examples of NHL teams screwing this up in the past. Until he’s back in a NYR uniform this won’t sit well for me.
 
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Ola said:
There is nothing that you can’t see, he said nothing of the sort. There is nothing besides his body language.

I think we can establish this:

1. Kravy hasn’t sulked in HFD. He played exactly the same way there as he did in Traverse.

2. He has not expressed a single negative feeling.

3. Our coaching staff in HFD has not expressed anything negative.

4. Our coaching staff in NYR has only been positive about his attitude.

JMHO, but I actually think there are some incorrect reads behind most of this.
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ColonialsHockey10 said:
From my standpoint, the “which league is better for his development” conversation has always been second to the one about the Rangers permanently damaging their relationship with VK. I too can live with him playing a season in the KHL.

There are just far too many examples of NHL teams screwing this up in the past. Until he’s back in a NYR uniform this won’t sit well for me.
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Exactly my worry as well.
 
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I really hope my read is not correct.
And both rangers and Kravtsov going through this professionally and it is not about what we see in interviews.
Kravtsov came in with stars on his shoulders to make the team, everything was great till training camp, and I don’t like his attitude and decision when reality hit, he decided not to work and wait and went to his comfort zone in khl instead. Look at Chtil in his second year, went down, was trying to prove demotion is mistake and got call to rangers after hard work.
 
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serakk said:
Look at Chtil in his second year, went down, was trying to prove demotion is mistake and got call to rangers after hard work.
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Zibs is injured, that's the reason Chytil is up. He would keep rocking in the AHL if it wasn't for that.

(and I'd be perfectly happy with it. Let him dominate the AHL for more than 2 weeks.)
 
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nyr2k2 said:
Yes it was Buch but that's not at all what I was doing. Another poster said Buch was an example of a player we ruined, and I disputed that. I said that from when he first came over he looked like a 50-point guy, that his skills weren't elite and his hockey sense wasn't great, so he wasn't ever going to be able to become the player some people thought he would be. It had nothing to do with him being a lazy Russian. To the contrary, Buch put in the hard work the team demanded and became a better player for it.

It was part of a larger discussion about "some guys are who they are" and it's not always the fault of the team that they didn't pan out. I'm not a guy who stereotypes players based on their country of origin.
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Gotcha and I agree. Buch performing well at the WJC, being in a men’s league with nice stats for his age led to false expectations like you said. His ceiling really was a second liner and he’s pretty much that at this point.
 
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Potentially Kravtsov could be inserted in Traktor's lineup for the team's home game tomorrow against Dynamo Minsk, another KHL regular bottom dweller.
 
The Crypto Guy said:
No. Highly unlikely.

But if the sides have soured on each other i could see a trade at some point.
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I cannot see Gorton simply giving him up like that. I also see nothing to point to Gorton having soured on him. If Kravstov is somehow pouting and wants a different organization, he may be waiting quite a while.

But again, I do not think Gorton soured on anyone, nor do I see Kravstov deciding that the NHL is not for him
 
GeorgeKaplan said:
I guess the bright side is that everyone thinks the Rangers are terrible at developing, so now Kravtsov doesn’t have to go through that :sarcasm:
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Ranger fans: "We suck at developing prospects"
Also Ranger fans: "How is Kravtsov supposed to develop if he doesn't spend time in Hartford?"

:laugh:
 
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