BringBackHakstol
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I can't believe what some people are willing to give this guy in term and/or cap hit. No way would I do some of your contract suggestions. Terrible idea.
I would go 4 years/18m max. And no tears here.
Do not want Vinny. I'd rather we just let Schenn develop into our second line center for the next 8-10 years. Vinny also hasn't been the same since he was Matt Cooked a couple years ago.
Sorry but there is no way Vinny goes for 4 / 18. I'm thinking hes more along the lines of 5/25ish , 6/30ish. I don't think its about the money, more about the length of contract at this point
Sorry but there is no way Vinny goes for 4 / 18. I'm thinking hes more along the lines of 5/25ish , 6/30ish. I don't think its about the money, more about the length of contract at this point
Fine then... 7 years, 7 mill, 1 mill cap hit.
It's always about the money.
Bear with me
Sign Vinny, Thomas, Gagne for a combined $11.5m AAV ($5m, $4m, $2.5m)
Trade both Schenns to Anaheim (plus picks?) for Ryan and Sbisa. Trade Mesz for a pick(s)/prospect.
Lines are:
Ryan - Giroux - Voracek
Hartnell - Vinny - Simmonds
Gagne - Couturier - Read
Talbot - ??? - ???
Timonen - Coburn
Streit - Sbisa
Grossmann - ???
Thomas
Mason
And you have just over $4m cap to plug the gaps... I thank you
No its not, the money becomes an issue because teams are going to bid for him. A team will surely offer him some deal 6/30, or 5/25. And I could see him turning it down to go to a contender for less money. Not free but less. People always go to the extremes
Just saying that term is money. I don't disagree with your guess on the deal he will get, 6/30 seems just about right.
Bear with me
Sign Vinny, Thomas, Gagne for a combined $11.5m AAV ($5m, $4m, $2.5m)
Trade both Schenns to Anaheim (plus picks?) for Ryan and Sbisa. Trade Mesz for a pick(s)/prospect.
Lines are:
Ryan - Giroux - Voracek
Hartnell - Vinny - Simmonds
Gagne - Couturier - Read
Talbot - ??? - ???
Timonen - Coburn
Streit - Sbisa
Grossmann - ???
Thomas
Mason
And you have just over $4m cap to plug the gaps... I thank you
Bear with me
Sign Vinny, Thomas, Gagne for a combined $11.5m AAV ($5m, $4m, $2.5m)
Trade both Schenns to Anaheim (plus picks?) for Ryan and Sbisa. Trade Mesz for a pick(s)/prospect.
Lines are:
Ryan - Giroux - Voracek
Hartnell - Vinny - Simmonds
Gagne - Couturier - Read
Talbot - ??? - ???
Timonen - Coburn
Streit - Sbisa
Grossmann - ???
Thomas
Mason
And you have just over $4m cap to plug the gaps... I thank you
3 years probably doesn't get it done. 6 years is to long, so Homer and Vinny are probably haggling somewheres in the middle. So say 5 years because someone out there is offering that. So the money, 4mil is not enough and 6 mil is too much.
So say 5.5mil because again someone would be offering that.
So Homer signs him for 5.5 mil for 5 years, for total of 27.5 mil. Is that ok with folks?
3 years probably doesn't get it done. 6 years is to long, so Homer and Vinny are probably haggling somewheres in the middle. So say 5 years because someone out there is offering that. So the money, 4mil is not enough and 6 mil is too much.
So say 5.5mil because again someone would be offering that.
So Homer signs him for 5.5 mil for 5 years, for total of 27.5 mil. Is that ok with folks?
9. I'm not as certain about Briere because he wasn't as front and centre at the draft, but guesstimates on Lecavalier's next contract are around the five-year, $25-million mark. That said, there are a couple of executives who said they wouldn't be surprised if a team asks to bump that up to seven years with the last two at lower salaries to lessen the cap hit. It's also expected that Lecavalier will ask for no-move or no-trade protection.
Is Lecavalier willing/able to play wing? If so I would give him 5 years at around $5 million.
Lecavalier-Giroux-Voracek
Hartnell-Couturier-Schenn
Gagne/Simmonds-Laughton-Read
Gagne/Rinaldo-Talbot-Simmonds/Gagne
That is a pretty sick lineup, even though there are three players over the age of 30!
Vinny is a total waste on the wing IMO. You lose his draw abilities, and I think you take away a lot of his playmaking by sticking him on the wing. IIRC hes like 54-55% on the dot?
Vinny signs here, we might see Couts or Schenn traded for a defender or sniper. My best bet would be Anahiem. Couts+Coburn for Hiller and Ryan.
Also we don't need to worry about no stinkin' salary cap.