Player Discussion: Victor Hedman - Part 2: Norris God and Norse God

[AlwaysSunnyInTampa]

It was his to lose tbh, then he got injured and lost it. A damn shame. I was hoping he'd get the reputation title this year, but sadly not.

I mean when you play for the NYR you get to miss the playoffs and still win the Norris ya know

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

Nothing about his injury, I guess?

 

[Hoek]

Nothing about his injury, I guess?

He had a torn meniscus in his right knee. Already been operated. Should be good to go for training camp.

Lightning’s Victor Hedman talks knee injury, Stanley Cup run in TSN interview

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

Today is Hedman’s day with the cup


Translated:

Victor Hedman.

Stanley Cup Champion x 2
Norris Trophy winner
Conn Smythe winner
Sweden's best player x 2
World champion
Ö-viksbo
MoDoit

Above all:

Model for children and young people

 

[LightningStrikes]

 

[Hoek]

Looking forward to 100% Hedman schooling the league again.

 

[Sky04]

We won the cup with an injured Hedman who was nowhere near his best, so that's positive sign for the 3 peat.

The RS is going to be a drag and we just need to get out of it injury free. Seeding honestly doesn't matter for shit now after seeing that last season, I think we'll take any matchup anywhere at this point, start pulling guys out of the lineup weeks in advance please.

 

[DMXATF23]

https://www.tampabay.com/sports/lig...man-is-back-for-this-lightning-training-camp/

Nice article in the Times today.

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

Hedman, Zibanejad, and Landeskog named to Sweden’s Olympic team today

google translated:

Already in September, the Olympic nations have selected three players as a basis for the preliminary squad. The final squad will be taken out in January.

Canada has reported that Sidney Crosby, Connor McDavid and Alex Pietrangelo have been selected in the Olympic squad, according to NHL.com.

This is for the organizer to be able to market the championship and to drive up interest before the Olympics.

Tre Kronor and the management with national team captain Johan Garpenlöv in the lead have also selected three players for a first preliminary squad.

 

[The Gongshow]

We won the cup with an injured Hedman who was nowhere near his best, so that's positive sign for the 3 peat.

The RS is going to be a drag and we just need to get out of it injury free. Seeding honestly doesn't matter for shit now after seeing that last season, I think we'll take any matchup anywhere at this point, start pulling guys out of the lineup weeks in advance please.

healthy Hedman and Vasi make the difference. Kuch got pretty banged up along the way, same with point and our depth made up for it. But healthy Hedman and Vasi win us games and series.

2020 Hedman was a monster and unstoppable. 2021 Vasi was a monster and unstoppable. Add in playoff Point and oh boy!

 

[DaBolts]

Do not start him the next two preseason games. The Cheapshot Kittens might slew foot him.

 

[LightningStrikes]

 

[DrMartinVanNostrand]

We won the cup with an injured Hedman who was nowhere near his best, so that's positive sign for the 3 peat.

The RS is going to be a drag and we just need to get out of it injury free. Seeding honestly doesn't matter for shit now after seeing that last season, I think we'll take any matchup anywhere at this point, start pulling guys out of the lineup weeks in advance please.

This is kinda why I thought it was silly seeing how many predictions a few weeks ago in the Atlantic Division thread were putting us #1. I'd be shocked if the Lightning won the division this year. That'll either be Florida or Toronto if I had to take a guess. This team has far bigger fish to fry and part of doing that is getting through the regular season with gas still in the tank. Between that and Cup hangover in general (how do you "get up" for early season games against lousy teams when you've just won back-to-back Cups?), I would hardly be surprised if this team is sitting in the fringes of playoff position come January 1, and then eventually starts revving things up from there. But winning the division is extremely unlikely in my expectation.

 

[LightningStrikes]

While defensively he’s had his troubles this season, Hedman is a point per game through 22 games without the easy secondary assist to Kuch and Point. Pretty impressive!

 

[LightningStrikes]

Hedman is +11 in our last 4 games.

 

[JFleegs]

Hedman is +11 in our last 4 games.

Hedman has started to look like the Norse god he is the past few games.

 

[Janvonpobben]

Hedman has started to look like the Norse god he is the past few games.

Fox and Makar hype too strong

 

[Sky04]

Fox and Makar hype too strong

It's not hype, it's actual stiff competition. I'm glad you can't just win a Norris based on reputation anymore, if Hedman wants another one he needs to be more consistent. He's turned it around the last 2-3 weeks but Fox has been doing this since the start of the year. If it was voted on today Fox would win again.

 

[Janvonpobben]

It's not hype, it's actual stiff competition. I'm glad you can't just win a Norris based on reputation anymore, if Hedman wants another one he needs to be more consistent. He's turned it around the last 2-3 weeks but Fox has been doing this since the start of the year. If it was voted on today Fox would win again.

Hedman has never won a norris on reputation if you just noticed.

Hedman has been stellar for years and only won one.

 

[Sky04]

Hedman has never won a norris on reputation if you just noticed.

Hedman has been stellar for years and only won one.

I'm saying it was primed for him to win it last year on "reputation" I'm glad it didn't go that route and gave it to the actual best defenseman of the season.

Hedman has only missed out on 1 Norris which was 2017, largely in part because Tampa didn't make the playoffs but he was a better defenseman than Burns that season with much less support. You're talking like he got snubbed multiple times, it's hard to win a Norris because typically "Norris" defensman all have similar peaks. Hedman is one of the best because he consistently plays around that level but not always at the "best" yearly.

 

[Janvonpobben]

I'm saying it was primed for him to win it last year on "reputation" I'm glad it didn't go that route and gave it to the actual best defenseman of the season.

Hedman has only missed out on 1 Norris which was 2017, largely in part because Tampa didn't make the playoffs but he was a better defenseman than Burns that season with much less support. You're talking like he got snubbed multiple times, it's hard to win a Norris because typically "Norris" defensman all have similar peaks. Hedman is one of the best because he consistently plays around that level but not always at the "best" yearly.

Fox won one without making playoffs. It was ridicilous when hedman and karlsson was always disqualified for same thing.

 

[Sky04]

Fox won one without making playoffs. It was ridicilous when hedman and karlsson was always disqualified for same thing.

Better late than never to change that stupid requirement.

 

[Janvonpobben]

Better late than never to change that stupid requirement.

Not sure what you mean. Nothing has changed. My point is that fox is overrated, north american bias.

 

[Sky04]

Not sure what you mean. Nothing has changed. My point is that fox is overrated, north american bias.

Lol Fox's workload is much more than Hedman's while producing just as much, there's not a tangible argument for Hedman other than reputation right now. There's no bias, weird to throw that around when if anything it'd favor Hedman like the other Swedish defenseman who has 8 Norris wins but don't let that stop you from your agenda.

 

[21]

Hedman is amazing if you ask me but this didn't went very well. People are still underestimating Hedman and it's truly confusing.
Hedman or Lidstrom at their peak?

Seriously, if only having to pick one star defense player for your team if being a coach. I can't find a better choice than Hedman.