Confirmed Trade: [VGK/CGY/PHI] Noah Hanifin (75% retained), Mikhail Vorobyov to VGK; 2026 1st , 2025 cond. 3rd, Daniil Miromanov to CGY; 2024 5th to PHI

[WhataKnight]

We keep Hague.

 

[Lunatik]

The conditions on this trade is weird. Why include a condition that if the 2025 1st is traded my March 10th 2024, then Calgary gets a 2026 1st.

That is unless McCrimmon is trying to make another move that will cost a 1st.

Maybe 2? They have enough LTIR space to add both Guentzel & Toffoli at 75% retained and they've been linked to both.

 

[Eternal Leaf]

The conditions on this trade is weird. Why include a condition that if the 2025 1st is traded my March 10th 2024, then Calgary gets a 2026 1st.

That is unless McCrimmon is trying to make another move that will cost a 1st.

Likely want to make a play for one of Guentzel/Buchnevich/Toffoli.

Technically, they could pull off two of them too with max retention.

 

[Lunatik]

*Conditions: If traded by March 10, 2024 OR if the pick is top 10, Calgary will instead receive 2026 1st round 'VGK'

I would hope that the condition would result in an unprotected 2026 otherwise its a lock that vegas deals it.

If 2026 it is "without conditions" per Conroy in a post-trade interview.

So, lets hope they trade the '25

 

[GeeoffBrown]

I think in order for the Flames to win this deal they need to hit on these picks and for VGK to win, they need to win the Stanley Cup or re-sign Hanifin.

I don't really understand the Flames signing this AHL player to a 2-year extension. I guess they are hoping he is a late bloomer

 

[PG Canuck]

Amen. It will be interesting to watch Treliving work his magic in Toronto.

The magic: checking in on Joel Edmundson

 

[Lunatik]

I think in order for the Flames to win this deal they need to hit on these picks and for VGK to win, they need to win the Stanley Cup or re-sign Hanifin.

I don't really understand the Flames signing this AHL player to a 2-year extension. I guess they are hoping he is a late bloomer

How is any deadline deal for a rental ever a loss for the seller? You take the offer you like best, or get nothing. Choosing something over nothing is a win.

 

[thaman8765678]

Signing this borderline nhler to a 2 year extension seems like damage control.

Have to show the fanbase that we are getting something for him before next year.

 

[Lunatik]

Signing this borderline nhler to a 2 year extension seems like damage control.

Have to show the fanbase that we are getting something for him before next year.

if you reach any ore you're going to dislocate your shoulder.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Again, these are all conditions based on standings, not on “if something better comes along”.

I was just saying I’ve never seen conditions like that one in this trade and I have no idea how it’s even legal.

The condition is really not that different from the part of the Monahan deal where Montreal could choose to take Calgary's 2024 1st if it was in the 20-32 range. The condition in this deal essentially says Vegas has the option to trade give their 2026 1st rounder to Calgary instead, but only if they trade their 2025 as well, the only difference is Vegas has a time limit to make that decision and that chance ends March 10th.

 

[Strangle]

But in this specific scenario everyone can take steroids. Just some use more than others

No, that scenario would be true without a salary cap though

 

[WhataKnight]

The condition is really not that different from the part of the Monahan deal where Montreal could choose to take Calgary's 2024 1st if it was in the 20-32 range. The condition in this deal essentially says Vegas has the option to trade give their 2026 1st rounder to Calgary instead, but only if they trade their 2025 as well, the only difference is Vegas has a time limit to make that decision and that chance ends March 10th.

Those conditions scream “this ain’t over.”

One must assume KMFGM has another deal nearing completion. It’s a trapdoor in case the next trade (for a winger) goes south.

 

[Zwui21]

Can't do conditional picks based on re-signing anymore.

Wait what, really? When was this changed and how the hell did I miss it?

 

[pld459666]

Seems like a shit return for Calgary

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Those conditions scream “this ain’t over.”

One must assume KFMGM has another deal nearing completion. It’s a trapdoor in case the next trade (for a winger) goes south.

Maybe. It really depends who they go after. I think it's pretty clear that Calgary is not that high on the later picks in this year's draft for one thing. That and Vegas doesn't want to move their 2024 pick as they are hosting the draft. I think it was more that it gave Kelly the option if he wants to go for like Buchnevich or Guentzel. But lets say he goes after Toffoli, I'm not sure he will return a 2025 1st, nor if a 2025 1st is what New jersey is particularly interested in

 

[HFpapi]

Lmao. It's like there's only 3 teams left in the NHL where players wanna go - Vegas, Panthers and Lightning

Hot weather + no tax is a hell of a drug

Never understood however how players are willing to talk extension with a new team before ever playing a game for them or living in he city.

 

[HFpapi]

Gotta respect making their team better at every opportunity

Agree.

Eichel, Stone, Pietrangelo, Hanifin, in short order? Can't even be mad, they've been relentlessly aggressive.

If Vegas is healthy going into the playoffs, watch out.

When**

 

[PhysicalGraffiti]

I hope going forward more teams are reluctant to give NTC/NMC clauses. Especially when they limit it to only a few teams.

I get it's not likely, as the player has the power, but it's just becoming so common where players can force a team's hand essentially and their limited trading partners know that.

 

[Larry44]

Hot weather + no tax is a hell of a drug

Never understood however how players are willing to talk extension with a new team before ever playing a game for them or living in he city.

Hanifin is BFFs with Eichel so he knows all about Vegas.

 

[CanMerc]

Wow…that’s all CGY got back?

 

[viper0220]

it’s hard being a Calgary Flames fan, it’s almost like a chore.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Insanely underwhelming for Calgary

Insanely impressive by VGK

 

[CraigsList]

Lmao, this is a fine return for a rental. Not exactly sure what many of you were expecting for someone that wasn’t doing Calgary any favors.

 

[hangman005]

 

[viper0220]

Did Calgary Flames not ask for David Edstrom, feels they could have had him.

Seems like a shit return for Calgary

I wasn’t expecting much but this just sucks.