I agree with you, hopefully at the very least they move Chibby to the 4th line and sit Barron for a couple of games. To me the kid has earned at least that much.
Post-Game Talk: VGK 3 - WPG 2 in OT
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Yeah he's played well enough and done enough of the little things right that even Sawzall's boosting him: Shooter's Mentality, Taking Care of Details, Playing a Big Man's Game, etc.
The question will be if Chibby is seen to do as many of The Little Things That Earn a Coach's Trust as Barron has -- over his career at least, he's been pretty poor for much of this season.
On balance I reckon it comes down to special teams and seniority as so often with the Jets, and that Barron stays in because he PKs.
But maybe.
voyageur
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Idk. Perfetti is playing some good hockey I'm not sure he has the speed and defensive awareness to play C. I will say that outside of Morrissey I thought he was the Jets best player last night. Chibrikov impressed me laying out for a shot block in the 1st period when the Jets were getting hemmed in. Kind of plays that coaches love.
They only put their whistle away when there was an opportunity to call the Knights in OT.
All you can hope for is that our new coaching staff can continue to iterate and improve on the team, getting them ready for the post season.
The Knights were extremely well rested and you could see midway through the first they got their skating legs underneath them.
Just because the road trip from hell is over doesn't mean the team isn't still fatigued. They haven't had 2 days off in a row since forever, and they still have their bumps and bruises. Add to that home responsibilities and to just think they are back to 100% is kind of naive.
I'm not saying they don't have work to do to figure out how to counter a big, aggressive team that has speed and forechecks well. That is job one for the coaches as the season progresses.
The NUMBER ONE thing the Jets can do immediately is to work on exits. Not just controlled exits but knowing when to pull the chute and just chip it out.
All they have to do is look at Vegas' tape to learn. Several times when the Jets were pressuring all they did was flip or chip and lived to fight another day.
For the controlled exits, one thing I am seeing that's different from the beginning of the year is there is far less close support when we get possession in our zone. If you can get 5-10 feet from the Jet with possession and into an empty spot that will go a long way to have good pressure releases and clean exits. If you can start doing that and turning the puck up ice you are going to start trapping the aggressive F's and having man advantages through the neutral zone which will allow for cleaner entries with possession and rush opportunities.
The added benefit to this is if you start getting man advantage breaks that is going to back the D off the bluelines which leads to more ice.
A lot of this fallback in my mind is due to the lack of practice to reinforce this and fatigue which can cause mental sluggishness and breakdowns.
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There were several instances of overpassing. Jets weren't shooting. But Helle was in the process of winning that game for us when the refs decided to intervene.
I would hate to meet that F**k Vegas team in the PO though.
Skidooboy
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sorry.
it's 100% obvious the refs are working for the bookmakers.
today the Jets were on the wrong side of the odds and the refs made sure the betting lines were protected.
that Stone hit on Chibby was late and targeting the head(just missed him)
the league is fine with anyone taking a run at a Jets jersey.
Jets are gonna have to beat the rfs, and the other team, just how it's going to be.
Having said all of that...the jets were not good last night.
it's 100% obvious the refs are working for the bookmakers.
today the Jets were on the wrong side of the odds and the refs made sure the betting lines were protected.
that Stone hit on Chibby was late and targeting the head(just missed him)
the league is fine with anyone taking a run at a Jets jersey.
Jets are gonna have to beat the rfs, and the other team, just how it's going to be.
Having said all of that...the jets were not good last night.
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At one time before kids I was way more into each game. The other factor is that I need stakes to get really invested now. In the playoffs each game is important. In the season, game 30 of 82 on a Thursday in December is hard to get worked up about, especially when the team is comfortably in a playoff spot.
I still come here each day. I still enjoy reading about the team and how people look at it.
GreatSaveEssensa
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The Jets are in 1st place overall….in the entire league. If this is your reaction to that, I couldn't even imagine your reaction if they were a bubble team.
Maybe it’s best if just stepped away for a while. Hockey should be fun and if you’re not having fun watching your team lead the league, than really, whats the point?
raideralex99
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I’m sorry but when two top teams are playing there is no way a ref should decide a game unless a scoring chance is taken away like the hook on Connor in OT which they never called on Vegas.
I guess thats why Vegas is the least penalized team in the league … the refs let them play hockey.
Feel like the org barely have perfetti in their top 5 candidates for 2C. I'd be surprised if they do that tbh.
GreatSaveEssensa
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The first call was fair. It was a trip. The second call was horrible.
Being down 2 men (3 with the pulled goalie) is basically gifting Vegas the tying goal, with a chance to win while still on the PP after the tying goal. In order for a ref to gift a goal, especially late in the game when down by one, the penalty call should be a very obvious one.
Yes, sure we'd want a call there (on the first penalty), but since this isn't the first NHL game we've ever watched, we'd know not to expect a call there and would probably not gripe too much because that's how a close game is typically (non) called in the 3rd, for better or worse.
There's a good chance that the first penalty doesn't get called in that situation (1 goal game, < 5 minutes left in the 3rd) in a typical NHL game. It's not impossible, but I'm sure we've seen them let a lot worse stuff go in the last few minutes of a close game.
The chance of that second penalty being called to put us down two men is never being called in the last couple of minutes of a 1-goal game. Just a terrible call in any game situation, but to call it then? Unheard of.
The thing that sizzled my biscuit was the non call on Connor in OT. If your logic as a ref is that a penalty is a penalty, then call it that way, or don't but don't just change your standards arbitrarily.
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Leaving aside for a moment that the Jets are no longer on top by winning percentage (i.e. they have the most points in part because they've played more games than their closest competitors), where is he wrong?
For the last two years this team has consistently failed to step up and deliver statement victories against top opponents. They flat out wilt in the spotlight. I mean, what did you see last night that would lead you to believe that the Jets could win a playoff series against Colorado (their opponent if the season ended today), let alone Vegas?
I appreciate that the Jets are competitive in the regular season, it makes the games more entertaining and interesting. But this still doesn't look like a team built to go the distance, beyond hoping that 37 goes on the mother of all hot streaks. I can understand why that dulls the enthusiasm of some people.
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I reluctantly agree with much of this. In spite of the incredible record setting start to the season I still see some of the same issues when the team plays fast, heavy, aggressive teams. They get completely shut down offensively in many of these kinds of games.
I love this team but I don’t really believe in my heart this current group is capable of winning anything much in the playoffs.
I hope beyond words I’m proven wrong.
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I thought Vegas was the better team for most of the game (not by a huge degree, but the Jets were just not generating enough), but when you have the lead in the last few minutes you have to find a way to lock it down and win and the Jets didn't do that.
A few shout outs:
JoMo / Helly - Obvious
Chibs - Another nice game. He's not going to keep scoring every game, but he plays pretty responsible and with a little edge. Keep it up.
Perfetti - Thought he played really well. Even without the assist I thought he was making things happen, and he was turning pucks over on the forecheck and the boards as well.
Fleury - I've liked his skating from the get go, but he made some really nice defensive plays to keep the puck out of the net. Tough break on the OT winner as he probably didn't see both guys changing. If I had to ice a 1 game lineup right now and everyone is healthy, he's starting over Stanley and Heinola.
Speaking of Heinola, did his icetime get cut in the 3rd? I didn't see any poor play that stood out?
A few shout outs:
JoMo / Helly - Obvious
Chibs - Another nice game. He's not going to keep scoring every game, but he plays pretty responsible and with a little edge. Keep it up.
Perfetti - Thought he played really well. Even without the assist I thought he was making things happen, and he was turning pucks over on the forecheck and the boards as well.
Fleury - I've liked his skating from the get go, but he made some really nice defensive plays to keep the puck out of the net. Tough break on the OT winner as he probably didn't see both guys changing. If I had to ice a 1 game lineup right now and everyone is healthy, he's starting over Stanley and Heinola.
Speaking of Heinola, did his icetime get cut in the 3rd? I didn't see any poor play that stood out?
Vegas has what we don't have. Size throughout their entire D. Our forwards just don't consistently give their D much trouble.
Yeah I think that ship has sailed
Agree with alot of this but pretty tough for any team to lock down a 1 goal lead being shorthanded and then ahh that's not working now you are 2 men down phantom call.
I didn't see any issues - I still think they are being very careful with his icetime - getting him eased into it.
