Arthur Morgan
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I bet he had something important to go to like a funeral and Vegas trying to terminate. honestly wouldn't be surprised at all
Seravalli: Vegas looking to terminate Lehner deal after he failed to report for physical
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John Mandalorian
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Wouldnt even say its a theory. I dont have enough at stake in this to be that. But i wouldnt be surprised if something came out later. On one side you have someone that likely has never forfeited millions before. And on the other, you have an organization with a history of being cut throat. Saying one is more ridiculous than the other is being a little naive and submissive. But you think its cut and dry. OK. So be it.
Figgy44
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It's also friggen ridiculous they couldn't get him to do a physical and everyone assumes he has to travel. When I bought whole life insurance, they sent someone to my house to do the physical to confirm my health for establishing the premium I would pay and I'm a nobody.
Millions are at stake. I find it bizarre that they failed to get Lehner to do a physical due to travel reasons, and that they couldn't put it on Lehner's tab to fly the NHL accredited personnel (or whoever/whatever requirements the insurance requires) out to do the physical.
The only logical possibility in my head is maybe they did and Lehner refused to meet with them for some of the mental health reasons already highlighted.
I mean, for $100K, you could probably hire a PI and pay for him and a team to do everything to find him then do the physical at whatever location he is.
LeapOnOver
Mackenzie is a hack!
Oh, there's plenty of reasons to bash the VGK, just don't think how they are handling the Lehner situation needs to be included.
FerrisRox
"Wanna go, Prettyboy?"
That's not how it works. You can't just put a player on LTIR because you want to. They need to be assessed to determine their health.
If it's a multi-million contract, with the expectation of a full-year of injury, in many cases that contract will be partially or fully insured, which often requires a second, independent physical as well. Nobody who is "healthy enough" is on the LTIR despite what the conspiracy theorists around here will tell you.
Already some weird cap dealings for the Knights?
Must be getting close to the start of the season!
Must be getting close to the start of the season!
4 Swedish players have played games this year (the same 4 as last year).
It's definitely not their league of choice right now.
They had 26 in 2017-2018.
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Gee, why else would they be banking on his cap hit being erased before this news even came out? It's like they were planning this all along.
ItWasJustified
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There are four Swedes who can never play for the national team again and are shunned by the Swedish hockey community and media because they play in the KHL.
But you don't seem to understand how intertwined the KHL and the Russian government is.
ManofSteel55
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This is puzzling for sure. Even if he knew he wasn't going to pass his physical, he still would have gotten paid his 5M if he reported. That's such a big mistake on his part. Sounds like some fishy business by Vegas.
MMC
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Probably because he hasn’t played in 2 years and has never gotten close to returning
hangman005
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How dear you... it's obviously because Vegas is evil... everyone knows that.
Noooo! Vegas would never lie about the injury status of any of their players! Literally zero chance! They're, as the kids say, totes 100% frfr no cap.
Viqsi
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Bruce Granville
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I don't trust that team as far as I could throw them. Lehner probably just checked into a hotel room with a 5m bitcoin password in an envelope waiting for him in the safe. VGK terminates his contract and gets him off the cap, Lehner claims he's unable to pay his creditors, and then he returns a destitute pauper to Sweden as the cautionary tale the NHL uses to warn it's players about who to invest with, and lives a comfortable life with whatever BS occupation he will claim supports him.
It like Oceans 27 or whatever they are up to.
It like Oceans 27 or whatever they are up to.
Maple Leaf
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What you conspiracy theorists don't realize is the Knights don't need to "get out of" Lehner's cap hit. Without terminating Lehner they'll have between 4-5m in LTIR space to use. If he gets terminated they'll have ~1m in space as of now, although they would be able to accrue cap to add at the deadline. Either way it's going to be similar numbers. The only thing really at stake here is the actual money Lehner is owed.
Lindberg Cheese
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Incorrect.
A bit less than $3.7M over the cap with him on the roster.
A bit more than $1.3M under the cap with him on LTIR or off the roster.
PS: Just saw that @Viqsi beat me to it...
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T_Cage
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Right? I mean, show up for 1 physical to cash a 4.5mil cheque sounds like an easy deal.
offer me 1/10 of that and I'll take a physical, heck for that price I'd even take a colonoscopy if they needed it
It comes to the same result using PuckPedia or hockey buzz.
Both include Lehner $5M cap hit in the bit less than $3.7M over the cap.
That is absolutely a possibility.
OR, hear me out, he has legitimate issues.
And doing that is easier with CapWages, as you only have 4 numbers to add rather than 20+.
Total for forwards + total for dmen + total for goalies + total for possible LTIR.
In fact, only adding the first three will show that they're under the cap...
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