Vegas Could Wheel and Deal NHL Defensemen

[LastWordArmy]

Once the winner of the Stanley Cup is decided this coming June, the hockey universe will center around Las Vegas. Las Vegas general manager George McPhee and his staff will be on the clock. Look for them to wheel and deal NHL defensemen after the completion of the expansion draft.

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http://lastwordonhockey.com/2016/11/06/las-vegas-wheel-deal-nhl-defensemen/

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[Iracundia]

I laughed and stopped reading when I saw that Zadorov would be left unprotected.

 

[Tommy Shelby]

I laughed and stopped reading when I saw that Zadorov would be left unprotected.

Yeah, not happening. Especially since he's been playing on the top pair with EJ all season.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Vegas isn't getting Matt Murray, to even throw it out there as a possible scenario is comical. I also don't see any way that Colorado doesn't protect Zadorov and the Wild don't trade Brodin before losing him.

 

[ck26]

tl;dr ... no ****.

Nothing in that article we didn't all know the second they announced the 7/3/1 or 8/1 protection plan.

Save your clicks.

 

[funky]

Yeah, not happening. Especially since he's been playing on the top pair with EJ all season.

Considering Johnson and Beauchiman have NMC and under contract they both have to be protected leaving the Avs to pick between Barrie and Zadorov unless they protect 4 Dman leaving them only 4 other spots to protect players with.

Unless they buyout Beauchimen

 

[Mike Jones]

Once the winner of the Stanley Cup is decided this coming June, the hockey universe will center around Las Vegas. Las Vegas general manager George McPhee and his staff will be on the clock. Look for them to wheel and deal NHL defensemen after the completion of the expansion draft.

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http://lastwordonhockey.com/2016/11/06/las-vegas-wheel-deal-nhl-defensemen/

Actually I think it's June 1st when the trading can start (It will probably be more of the picks for avoiding players kind of trades) and I think that's still in the midst of the later rounds.

 

[Prairie Habs]

Considering Johnson and Beauchiman have NMC and under contract they both have to be protected leaving the Avs to pick between Barrie and Zadorov unless they protect 4 Dman leaving them only 4 other spots to protect players with.

Unless they buyout Beauchimen

The facts are inconsequential, no one is going to admit their team will lose a good player until it happens. Just look at all the delusional fans convinced LV will take their team's worst contract, or that their GM will magically be able to protect every asset with any value.

 

[Cypher]

Considering Johnson and Beauchiman have NMC and under contract they both have to be protected leaving the Avs to pick between Barrie and Zadorov unless they protect 4 Dman leaving them only 4 other spots to protect players with.

Unless they buyout Beauchimen

They'll go 4 forwards and 4 dman before exposing Zadorov to expansion draft.

Only really need to protect Duchene, Landeskog, and Mackinnon plus one of Grigorenko/Soderberg (no big loss)... and Rantanen is exempt.

Avs fans pretty much know we'll either lose Varlamov or Soderberg/Grigorenko.

 

[exporta]

Considering Johnson and Beauchiman have NMC and under contract they both have to be protected leaving the Avs to pick between Barrie and Zadorov unless they protect 4 Dman leaving them only 4 other spots to protect players with.

Unless they buyout Beauchimen

Players can waive their ntc/nmc. Teams can also trade assets for LV to not take an unprotected player.

I bet we'll see a number of deals, where LV picks up a pick.

 

[Dabeast]

Highly doubtful Demers is exposed

Also Wennberg will be protected (Clarkson does't need to be protected due to injury)

 

[Avs44]

Considering Johnson and Beauchiman have NMC and under contract they both have to be protected leaving the Avs to pick between Barrie and Zadorov unless they protect 4 Dman leaving them only 4 other spots to protect players with.

Unless they buyout Beauchimen

The facts are inconsequential, no one is going to admit their team will lose a good player until it happens. Just look at all the delusional fans convinced LV will take their team's worst contract, or that their GM will magically be able to protect every asset with any value.

The "facts" are pretty straightforward. The Avs have only three forward who are worth protecting; MacKinnon, Landeskog, Duchene. Comeau has been terrible and is a third liner, Colborne is a mediocre third liner, Grigorenko is going to have to show way more if he wants to be protected, and Soderberg has also been pretty bad so far...protecting only one of those guys isn't a problem whatsoever. Losing Comeau or Grigorenko or whoever isn't a big deal.


The notion that the Avs would leave Zadorov exposed, the prime piece in the return for ROR and who has looked really good so far at only 21 years of age, so they can protect the likes of Colborne and Comeau, both who will be impending UFA's and who they picked up as depth pieces in free agency, is an utter joke. The OP is terrible, and neither of you two seemed to have put much thought into it either.

 

[KIRK]

Vegas isn't getting Matt Murray, to even throw it out there as a possible scenario is comical. I also don't see any way that Colorado doesn't protect Zadorov and the Wild don't trade Brodin before losing him.

One hopes Fleury will be traded or bought out before then.

One worries that Murray will be traded before then.

Either way, Murray won't be exposed. Zero chance.

EDIT: I do wonder, if he has a bad season, if Maatta might be exposed. Highly doubtful, but that's a big cap hit for another five years if his play slips any further for an extended period, and the Pens have a couple of extensions to address.

 

[dechire]

If you clicked on your own link in the article you'd know that it's spelled Patrik Nemeth not Patrick Niemeth. Hard to take an article seriously when that's one of the first things I saw.

 

[WesMcCauley]

Las Vegas should take Clendening from us. He is a very good player imo. Has all the tools to be a very good nhl defensemen

 

[Empoleon8771]

One hopes Fleury will be traded or bought out before then.

One worries that Murray will be traded before then.

Either way, Murray won't be exposed. Zero chance.

EDIT: I do wonder, if he has a bad season, if Maatta might be exposed. Highly doubtful, but that's a big cap hit for another five years if his play slips any further for an extended period, and the Pens have a couple of extensions to address.

I would be absolutely shocked for the Penguins to expose Maatta. Who would they protect in his place, Pouliot? Maybe if Pouliot has a really strong season and Maatta struggles.

Realistically, I think Brodin and Fowler are traded before Vegas can poach them, so Vegas will be getting Scandella and Montour from those two teams. They'll be getting defensemen like those two, Johnson from Columbus and a bunch of younger guys that are the 4th best defensemen on their teams (guys like TVR, Schultz/Pouliot, Petrovic and Schmidt). I think the forwards Vegas will get are guys like Killorn from Tampa, Jarnkrok from Nashville, Lowry from Winnipeg, Yakupov from St. Louis and Beleskey from Boston. In net, I'm almost positive they'll end up with Varlamov as the starter and Korpisalo as the backup

 

[Street Hawk]

Players can waive their ntc/nmc. Teams can also trade assets for LV to not take an unprotected player.

I bet we'll see a number of deals, where LV picks up a pick.

A player with a NMC can waive it. But, they would only do so to help their team, which means that they must also be very confident that they won't get selected.

I mean, say Beauchemin waives his NMC. Is he, at his age of 37 when the expansion draft takes place, and 1 year and $4.5 million left on his contract, is he really the best asset that LV can select from the Avalanche franchise?

I mean, if MAF had a full NMC, he has a limited NTC of about 12 teams he can't be moved to, then he would likely be taken from the Pens organization. That would be a different story of a guy who wouldn't waive his NMC. But, he likely gets traded before that.

LV will make some deals to acquire more draft picks and stuff, but they also need to ice a decent team. So, they have to select at least 20 players who can play for them next season and they can fill out the rest with free agents.

McPhee is doing a mock draft every 2 weeks or so. So, he can be prepared to adapt and adjust should a player no longer be on the board.

 

[KIRK]

I would be absolutely shocked for the Penguins to expose Maatta. Who would they protect in his place, Pouliot? Maybe if Pouliot has a really strong season and Maatta struggles.

Realistically, I think Brodin and Fowler are traded before Vegas can poach them, so Vegas will be getting Scandella and Montour from those two teams. They'll be getting defensemen like those two, Schmidt from Washington, Petrovic from Florida, TVR from Chicago and Pouliot or Schultz from Pittsburgh. I think the forwards Vegas will get are guys like Killorn from Tampa, Jarnkrok from Nashville, Lowry from Winnipeg, Yakupov from St. Louis and Beleskey from Boston. In net, I'm almost positive they'll end up with Varlamov as the starter and Korpisalo as the backup.

Only plausible scenario-- and it's a really, really slim one even if it happens-- is if Maatta has a rough year and perhaps playoffs and the Pens decide their better off with the extra 4M x 5 years in cap space for extensions. As I said, very, very unlikely overall, and very unlikely even if he had a rough year.

As for what you spell out, it's very possibly how it could play out.

 

[Plager05]

ugh, should've known. HF PARTNER prefix is worse than eklund for what you find behind them.

 

[Flameshomer]

Would they take Giordano if we left him exposed?

 

[WesMcCauley]

Would they take Giordano if we left him exposed?

Pretty sure they would.

 

[Sojourn]

Anaheim isn't exposing Cam Fowler.

 

[Vitto79]

I'm sure players will waive NMC or they will be bought out . Like girardi in NY , they protect Klein

 

[jw2]

Another doozie. This site is worse than Eklund.

 

[Jormungandr]

Another doozie. This site is worse than Eklund.

Haha, sad but true. Last Word just needs to stop.