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He's a better player, but I don't get the question. You don't dismantle a conference final lineup, so I would imagine they keep all 3.
Speculation: Vegas cap reduction need
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He's a better player, but I don't get the question. You don't dismantle a conference final lineup, so I would imagine they keep all 3.
CupInSIX
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Is Vegas comfortable giving up their 2022 2nd and/or 2024 1st to get rid of an anchor contract like Dadonov?
And then there's the question of Stephenson and Roy. The whole reason Stephenson requested a trade from Washington was because he wanted a bigger role; he's now had a taste of that and has acquitted himself quite well. Now to make room for $10M Golden Boy, Stephenson gets throttled-- that'll surely sit well with him. Roy has likewise been getting a taste of greater responsibility and is holding his own. He's in a contract year and would presumably like more leverage going into those negotiations. I'm sure he'll be looking forward to being cast aside.
And then there's the question of Stephenson and Roy. The whole reason Stephenson requested a trade from Washington was because he wanted a bigger role; he's now had a taste of that and has acquitted himself quite well. Now to make room for $10M Golden Boy, Stephenson gets throttled-- that'll surely sit well with him. Roy has likewise been getting a taste of greater responsibility and is holding his own. He's in a contract year and would presumably like more leverage going into those negotiations. I'm sure he'll be looking forward to being cast aside.
CupInSIX
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CupInSIX
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You've created some strange narratives because you won't let your Stephenson & Roy angles go.
For starters, I've never heard that Stephenson requested a trade. He was a 12/13 forward for Washington and they needed to dump cap(sounds familiar) so he was traded for a 5th round pick. The idea that he would pout on the 3rd line seems a touch ludicrous.
Roy is doing well and may ask for a significant raise as well as more ice time at the start of next season, I'll give you that. Him and Hague doing well this year are good problems to have.
Both could play with Patrick on the 3rd line next season. I don't know how Patrick looks on the wing, but Roy should be kept at C IMO. Or one of them could earn a spot on the 2nd line with Marchessault and Karlsson.
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The fact Roy is in a contract year is likely why he should be the odd one out..... Vegas won't be able to afford the raise he will ask for
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I have no idea what Vegas saw in Dadonov. He was awful in Ottawa. Dorion getting rid of him for Holden and a 3rd was wizardry. Vegas better hope that someone else likes him too.
I recall murmurings of Stephenson being not happy with his role in Washington, I don't remember whether that ever culminated in a public trade request (he definitely took them to arbitration), but that's all beside the point-- the point is that he has earned his keep in Vegas, and, believe it or not, these guys have egos. Ideally he and Roy would stay motivated and content if/when they get sandbagged, but that assumption usually ends up being a bridge too far.
That's just an exploration of things from their perspective. From a management perspective, pushing those guys off of the pivot seems like a poor utilization of resources.
That's a real possibility especially because he'll have arb rights, but moving him between now and the deadline hardly makes a dent in Vegas' cap crunch. Maybe he's an asset that gets thrown in to try and help lubricate a move of Dadonov, but I think more likely is he gets dealt in the off-season.
What about Smith for Gauthier and Hajek from the Rangers? Both are RFAs next year so they would provide cheap depth options going into the next season as well. Both are NHL ready right now and still might have some upside to their games as well.
CupInSIX
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Can't see Smith moving after they included Tuch in the Eichel deal.
And, well, Gauthier kind of sucks and Hajek hasn't amounted to more than a 7th D with Nemeth & Tinordi getting into the lineup over him.
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Trade Dadonov for a pick, send Kolesar down, run 11 F 6 D and 2 G at $16,278 under the cap until the playoffs.
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Dadonov is a third line winger with a $5 million cap hit and a modified NTC. The idea Vegas will get rid of that contract with no issue is a fallacy.
Janmark will cost almost nothing against the cap by the time they would need to make a move. Some team will want him for added depth.
I think Smith is probably the other to go because he's a UFA and would get more interest and doesn't have any trade protection.
But Dadonov has looked good in most games this season and is scoring again. And has only gotten to play with Stone and Stephenson one game so far, the rest being stuck mostly with Stephenson and a fourth liner like Kolesar or Carrier on the other wing. One down year on a bad Senators team won't tank his value that much.
Agreed that Smith should probably have his bags packed (if he's not gone by the deadline, then he's certainly not being brought back in the off-season), but there aren't all that many teams that can take on his cap hit outright-- things can change, but most of the teams with cap space aren't expected to be buyers at the deadline, certainly not for rentals. I also wouldn't ignore the possible fallout that could come with jettisoning one of the members of the misfit core by the deadline, especially if the team doesn't manage to make a deep-run in the playoffs.
Janmark isn't doing too hot. Yeah his cap hit isn't all that prohibitive, but so far he hasn't even been able to play up to even that.
Dadonov likewise is playing well below the value of his contract, and there's still another year left with $6.5Mil in salary owed. The last few games he has been at or near the top in ice time, so they're clearly trying to help boost his production, but I don't think the showcasing is going to distract any GMs from how he's been a passenger for the duration of his contract and, again, not many teams can fit him in outright, and those teams are the ones Dadonov can put on his no-trade list if he decides he prefers to stay in Vegas.
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I see Vegas doing a big trade trying to land one of the best goalies in the league.
But I was hearing Kessel was willing to waive to Vegas, but that's likely not happening since the Eichel trade.
But I was hearing Kessel was willing to waive to Vegas, but that's likely not happening since the Eichel trade.
CupInSIX
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Kessel would be a good signing at 2.5m if he keeps up his pace this season.
Who would they have at RW if Stone re-aggravates his injury? They already gave up Tuch.
A better part of the solution would be to beg Adams for the Boychuk contract in Feb. I don't know if he'd be willing to help Eichel's new team though.
Still. If NYI can help Buffalo circumvent the cap floor, Buffalo can help Vegas circumvent the cap ceiling.
Who would they have at RW if Stone re-aggravates his injury? They already gave up Tuch.
A better part of the solution would be to beg Adams for the Boychuk contract in Feb. I don't know if he'd be willing to help Eichel's new team though.
Still. If NYI can help Buffalo circumvent the cap floor, Buffalo can help Vegas circumvent the cap ceiling.
