Speculation: Vegas cap reduction need

[Goal Caufield50]

So with Eichel on board see approximately $4.3mm over the cap. I predict Dadanov will get a new address. Any other option for cap compliance?

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[The Duck Knight]

With Eichel they're going to be 10 million over the cap if everyone is healthy. Nothing needs to be done unless Eichel is ready to play.

Although there is some speculation Stone might be out for the whole regular season. If that's the case they can punt the cap issues to the offseason.

 

[Sempiternal]

I'm sure the Coyotes will help them out.

 

[Prairie Habs]

With Eichel they're going to be 10 million over the cap if everyone is healthy. Nothing needs to be done unless Eichel is ready to play.

Although there is some speculation Stone might be out for the whole regular season. If that's the case they can punt the cap issues to the offseason.

You also need to account for tuch's 4.75 going the other way. Most likely it means Reilly and his 5M won't be brought back next year.

Vegas fans would obviously prefer to dump dadonov, but he has a modified NTC and it might not be so easy to get rid of.

 

[The Duck Knight]

You also need to account for tuch's 4.75 going the other way. Most likely it means Reilly and his 5M won't be brought back next year.

Vegas fans would obviously prefer to dump dadonov, but he has a modified NTC and it might not be so easy to get rid of.

That is counting Tuch's number. Right now including everyone on LTIR the Knights cap is a shade under 92m. Smith will likely be one of the casualties, but for the Knights sake it would be better if Stone can be Kucherov'd so they can maintain their depth for a run this season. Then sort the cap issues out in the offseason.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

That is counting Tuch's number. Right now including everyone on LTIR the Knights cap is a shade under 92m. Smith will likely be one of the casualties, but for the Knights sake it would be better if Stone can be Kucherov'd so they can maintain their depth for a run this season. Then sort the cap issues out in the offseason.

If Stone is getting Kucherov'd with Eichel's timeline, it's going to be tough for Vegas to make the playoffs.

 

[Cogburn]

Given the Boychuk deal, why didn't they trade down a contract or two with Buffalo? Take an ELC or minimum contract for someone deemed expendable?

 

[abbbaron]

Whitecloud is getting a raise next season and a few RFAs will be in line for raises as well. Smith and Janmark are gone and possibly McNabb too. Dadonov's contract isn't particularly friendly; currently there are only about 10 teams that can take it on outright and maybe those are the 10 teams that go on his no-trade list, so Vegas will likely have to retain salary and/or attach multiple picks to move him

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Whitecloud is getting a raise next season and a few RFAs will be in line for raises as well. Smith and Janmark are gone and possibly McNabb too. Dadonov's contract isn't particularly friendly; currently there are only about 10 teams that can take it on outright and maybe those are the 10 teams that go on his no-trade list, so Vegas will likely have to retain salary and/or attach multiple picks to move him

What helps a potential Dadonov trade is that there's only a year remaining on it. That at least could make it "friendly" to a club like Arizona. They also have the youth on the blueline and forward group to potentially replace McNabb and Janmark. Finally, I wonder if Stephenson becomes the Reilly Smith replacement by next season.

 

[LeonDraisaitl]

Whitecloud is getting a raise next season and a few RFAs will be in line for raises as well. Smith and Janmark are gone and possibly McNabb too. Dadonov's contract isn't particularly friendly; currently there are only about 10 teams that can take it on outright and maybe those are the 10 teams that go on his no-trade list, so Vegas will likely have to retain salary and/or attach multiple picks to move him

I thought Whitecloud signed a multi year extension. Am I mistaking him for someone else
*edit* not gonna delete but disregard my message I’m stupid

 

[abbbaron]

What helps a potential Dadonov trade is that there's only a year remaining on it. That at least could make it "friendly" to a club like Arizona. They also have the youth on the blueline and forward group to potentially replace McNabb and Janmark. Finally, I wonder if Stephenson becomes the Reilly Smith replacement by next season.

But the contract is backloaded-- Dadonov is due for 6.5mil next season, so even if he doesn't have Arizona on his no-trade list I don't think that's the kind of deal Arizona is attracted to. For a guy who is putting up less than half a point per game, there'll need to be significant retention and at least one pick (2022 2nd?) attached to get the conversation started.
Stephenson has thrived at C with Patches and Stone, so depending on how well he'd adapt to sliding over on the wing, he might be another indirect casualty of all this

 

[centipede2233]

For a team that main weakness was at center, I feel like the dadanov signing was a bad signing for Vegas. He didn’t really address Vegas’s needs.
Since there inaugural season, I haven’t been impressed with Vegas’s decisions since then.

 

[GhostofYotesFan47]

But the contract is backloaded-- Dadonov is due for 6.5mil next season, so even if he doesn't have Arizona on his no-trade list I don't think that's the kind of deal Arizona is attracted to. For a guy who is putting up less than half a point per game, there'll need to be significant retention and at least one pick (2021 2nd?) attached to get the conversation started.
Stephenson has thrived at C with Patches and Stone, so depending on how well he'd adapt to sliding over on the wing, he might be another indirect casualty of all this

Theoretically, you trade Karlsson for a higher end 3c on a smaller contract and a pick? Keeps Stone, Stephenson, and Pacioretty together. That would need to happen once Eichel is healthy but it would alleviate some cap.

 

[abbbaron]

Theoretically, you trade Karlsson for a higher end 3c on a smaller contract and a pick? Keeps Stone, Stephenson, and Pacioretty together. That would need to happen once Eichel is healthy but it would alleviate some cap.

Karlsson also has a M-NTC to help complicate things. Given Karlsson's role with that team since its inaugural season, I'd have to believe that Vegas wouldn't want to explore moving him, but then again that's a front office that doesn't seem to shy away from burning bridges...
That's going to catch up with the org at some point

 

[genk]

Although there is some speculation Stone might be out for the whole regular season. If that's the case they can punt the cap issues to the offseason.

Right out of Tampa’s playbook. This is truly a copycat league.

 

[moosemeister]

If Dadonov will waive to come to AZ we will happily take him attached with a 2nd rounder and a 7th rounder.

 

[elitepete]

The guy that VGK should look to move is Marchessault. He would actually bring back positive value, and they would be able to replenish some of the picks/prospects that they have traded away over the last few years especially with the Eichel trade.

 

[Extra Texture]

Given the Boychuk deal, why didn't they trade down a contract or two with Buffalo? Take an ELC or minimum contract for someone deemed expendable?

Probably because after a rough start they were thinking they need everyone they can get. Especially when Eichel won’t be back for a long while.

For example, if they had dumped Reilly smith in the transaction as a pending UFA. Even if Vegas told Buffalo to find a taker and flip him for more assets (as a added part of the larger deal), VGK still loses a guy who is contributing now, for a guy who won’t play until 2022 at best. That’s before getting into sending a vet player to a rebuilding Buf, and considering the Pegulas probably don’t want to pay a vet if they can avoid it

They’re 5-5 now, but I’m guessing if this deal had gone down with Vegas sitting at 12-5 or something, they would’ve probably considered the more logical course you’re suggesting.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Theoretically, you trade Karlsson for a higher end 3c on a smaller contract and a pick? Keeps Stone, Stephenson, and Pacioretty together. That would need to happen once Eichel is healthy but it would alleviate some cap.

Karlsson back to the ducks

 

[iginlafan77]

If they have Eichel, Stone and Pacioretty all healthy at the same time, they'd be roughly 8.8M over the cap. So I don't think there's much chance Eichel comes back before the playoffs.

This coming summer they'll have 3.6M in space (plus any cap increase) with a roster needing an additional 2 dmen and 4-5 forwards. If you fill those spots with players on 2 way contracts, they're off by roughly 2M.
And that's assuming they don't re-sign McNabb, Smith or Janmark. Next summer is certainly going to be interesting for Vegas.

 

[HolyGhost]

So with Eichel on board see approximately $4.3mm over the cap. I predict Dadanov will get a new address. Any other option for cap compliance?

Eichel is 4 to 6 months away from coming back. Playoffs is his ETA. Next year is a fun time for the Knights and the cap

 

[bobholly39]

If Stone is getting Kucherov'd with Eichel's timeline, it's going to be tough for Vegas to make the playoffs.

In the Pacific? Pretty weak, i think they'll be fine to be honest

 

[Harvey Birdman]

If Stone is getting Kucherov'd with Eichel's timeline, it's going to be tough for Vegas to make the playoffs.

Knowing Vegas, they’ll sneak in the playoffs the last bit of the season getting the 8th seed, get healthy, then go on a 2021 version of that LA run.

 

[AfroThunder396]

R. Smith + Janmark to NJ for McLeod + Boqvist + NJ's 2nd 2023. Vegas saves a little over 6M.

 

[kvladimir]

Knowing Vegas, they’ll sneak in the playoffs the last bit of the season getting the 8th seed, get healthy, then go on a 2021 version of that LA run.

Congrats on finishing 1st in the West, Colorado! Uh, so......... you might want to sit down for this...