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Vegas about to circumvent cap again? UPD: Mark Stone back practicing.

Some Other Flame said:
Not a loophole and there's literally nothing the league can or will do about it.

That quote unquote solution is horribly myopic and would never ever pass muster. Because here's the thing, injuries happen to every single team, and there's not a single GM out there who would be okay with having their players forced to sit out because of injuries.
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I don't give a shit. the optics are bad and it looks even worse when you look at accepting the league has become of betting. You could argue it's form of cooking the books. Theres a lawsuit waiting to happen here if the wrong guy losing enough money because of the league and its rules.

and it is a loophole teams hide players that can play or be practicing on LTIR near the deadline only to activate them right in time for the playoffs.

its a joke. Let's hope Benn takes him out.
 
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Super Cake said:
You crybabies are something else.

Whenever your team does the same thing in the future, i better not see you defending them.

It is not Vegas fault that they have one if not the most injury prone roster in the league right now.
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The thing is very few teams get away with these kons ideas luxuries lolol
 
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Surely this is all miraculous timing, no trend to see here.
 
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Oilslick941611 said:
I don't give a shit. the optics are bad and it looks even worse when you look at accepting the league has become of betting. You could argue it's form of cooking the books. Theres a lawsuit waiting to happen here if the wrong guy losing enough money because of the league and its rules.

its a joke. Let's hope Benn takes him out.
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It's not even guaranteed they play Dallas, and Stone doesn't deserve to be injured for this
 
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Some Other Flame said:
Not a loophole and there's literally nothing the league can or will do about it.

That quote unquote solution is horribly myopic and would never ever pass muster. Because here's the thing, injuries happen to every single team, and there's not a single GM out there who would be okay with having their players forced to sit out because of injuries.
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It’s 100% a loophole because it’s completely unprovable as to whether or not a player is ready and able to come off LTIR and when. Teams know it’s an optics nightmare for the league to start forcing playing to come off if they deem them ready despite the team and player saying otherwise.
 
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This all reminds me of when I'd play this online video game years ago and there'd be exploits where players would take advantage of it to get infinite money or would duplicate items. That clearly wasn't intended by the developers for this to occur as it gave the players who took advantage of this bug an unfair advantage. It was in the code for it to do that but it was a bug and the developers said as much. If you cheated and used this exploit, you'd be punished.

Vegas isn't the first to use it but there is no question they are using exploits here and cheating to gain an unfair advantage.
 
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Chaos2k7 said:
Chicago screwed Pittsburgh just last season, it's possible, but Vegas is getting in and will play a lineup over the cap game 1 of the first round.

If anything else happens but that I would be shocked. This is not good timing or luck based. I chuckled at the report when he first went to LTIR, saying they weren't sure of playoff availability. They are not even hiding it.
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Because they don't need to.

As blatantly obvious as it is, what they're doing is still within the confines of that nifty little CBA.
 
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I have yet to see a solution to this issue that would work AND withstand a challenge from the NHLPA.
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there's so many.

Activating all LTIR players on the roster for the last business day of the regular season, and requiring it to be cap compliant in would solve the issue.
Not doing a 100 $ for $ on LTIR pool.
They could make it 2* League min in LTIR pool to replace the injured player (~2m) instead of 9.5m for 1 player and 7m for another.
 
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Some Other Flame said:
Not a loophole and there's literally nothing the league can or will do about it.

That quote unquote solution is horribly myopic and would never ever pass muster. Because here's the thing, injuries happen to every single team, and there's not a single GM out there who would be okay with having their players forced to sit out because of injuries.
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I feel like the league can easily limit how much LTIR relief teams get when they put players on LTIR and it pretty much solves the problem. Teams will still be able to go over the cap in this case, but doing that would limit how much they can go over by.

The issue isn't "teams are playing over the cap" more than it is to what level they're playing over the cap. If a team is like $2 million over the cap in the playoffs due to LTIR, I figure most people wouldn't make a big deal out of it. The problem is that teams are like $10+ million over the cap due to LTIR.

Vegas is using about $9 million in LTIR cap space, which is where this seems to be at a point of unfair advantages. If they were limited to only being able to use $2 million of that and mostly have to replace Stone with cheap players, I don't think many people would be mad about them being over the cap.
 
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Will people every stop saying Vegas is cheating. They aren't. LTIR is an option available to all 32 teams. Clearly, Vegas' doctors didn't think he was healthy to return last week. Do people think these guys will gladly risk their medical license or?
 
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Voight said:
Will people every stop saying Vegas is cheating. They aren't. LTIR is an option available to all 32 teams. Clearly, Vegas' doctors didn't think he was healthy to return last week. Do people think these guys will gladly risk their medical license or?
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No doctor is going to risk their medical license saying a player is cleared when he is not, true,
but a doctor, especially one paid for the by the team, isn't gonna lose their license, or face any backlash at all, by saying "player isn't healthy" until the cap is no longer an issue.

The problem is you can't prove Stone isn't healthy now, but it's pretty funny that game 82 not healthy, 2 days later healthy.
 
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