Value of: Varlamov to the Leafs

[Just a Fan]

Any Isles fan have his NTC list?

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

No it wasn't it was reported Varlamov wouldn't waive for Edmonton

Dude it was mentioned that Varlamov will only play in the States not Canada, Several insiders already said that. So yeah he wont waive for any canadian team.

 

[Gizmo Tkachuk]

Any Isles fan have his NTC list?

Aren't those usually kept private until traded?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Dude it was mentioned that Varlamov will only play in the States not Canada, Several insiders already said that. So yeah he wont waive for any canadian team.

I only saw Edmonton

 

[Isles72]

I can see the leafs aquiring Holtby right at the deadline when rosters can be expanded .

 

[CupHolders]

Dude it was mentioned that Varlamov will only play in the States not Canada, Several insiders already said that. So yeah he wont waive for any canadian team.

Other than fan speculation, where have you read this? I ask, because I don’t recall any list ever mentioned on the Isles board.

It wouldn’t surprise me that Canadian teams would be on his list. But that’s still just speculation, I haven’t seen a report anywhere.

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

Aren't those usually kept private until traded?

Plus:

 

[CupHolders]

Aren't those usually kept private until traded?

I have never seen such a list posted on the Islanders board.

 

[violaswallet]

I like how half a season of Koskinen will cost a 1st to dump but 2.5 years of an equally effective Mrazek would cost a 2nd to dump. Try again… that’s not “rational expectations”.

You’re expecting a Leafs to be rational, now thats a true violation of rational expectations

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Other than fan speculation, where have you read this? I ask, because I don’t recall any list ever mentioned on the Isles board.

It wouldn’t surprise me that Canadian teams would be on his list. But that’s still just speculation, I haven’t seen a report anywhere.

It wouldn't sur me either but so far all we know is Edmonton

 

[CupHolders]

It wouldn't sur me either but so far all we know is Edmonton

To be clear I’m not slighting Canadian cities by suggesting that I expect that he MAY have Canadian teams on his no trade list.

Rather, I’m of the opinion the primary reason SOME players don’t want to play in Canada is because of the media exposure.

With hockey’s lower popularity in the US and the Rangers the primary NYC metro team, I expect players who sign with the Isles do so for access to a major city and a small measure of anonymity.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

To be clear I’m not slighting Canadian cities by suggesting that I expect that he MAY have Canadian teams on his no trade list.

Rather, I’m of the opinion the primary reason SOME players don’t want to play in Canada is because of the media exposure.

With hockey’s lower popularity in the US and the Rangers the primary NYC metro team, I expect players who sign with the Isles do so for access to a major city and a small measure of anonymity.

I know hockey isn't as popular in the states but I would suggest to you that if you want to be anonymous New York is the wrong spot.

 

[miscs75]

I know hockey isn't as popular in the states but I would suggest to you that if you want to be anonymous New York is the wrong spot.

Long Island is actually pretty good at that compared to Manhattan. Theres enough rich people/celebrities around that you could live in the suburbs and no one honestly knows who you are unless they follow hockey. Plus it’s really a 4th sport behind baseball, basketball and football out here with 6 “local” (Jets/Giants playing in NJ forces the quotations) teams between those sports. Realistically it’s similar to the Blue Jays players living in the GTA.

 

[CupHolders]

I know hockey isn't as popular in the states but I would suggest to you that if you want to be anonymous New York is the wrong spot.

Actually you’re wrong there, and it’s a common misconception of NHL fans outside of New York.

Hockey is less popular than some college sports even. As for the Isles, I think they still have only one full time reporter. Two if you count the athletic.

Islander players can easily spend a day/evening in NYC and likely not be bothered much. A New York Yankee however…

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Actually you’re wrong there, and it’s a common misconception of NHL fans outside of New York.

Hockey is less popular than some college sports even. As for the Isles, I think they still have only one full time reporter. Two if you count the athletic.

Islander players can easily spend a day/evening in NYC and likely not be bothered much. A New York Yankee however…

I figured hockey would be more popular in New York seeing as the Rangers are original 6 and the NYI were a Juggernaut in the 80's with 4 straight cups.

Although I still assume it's a little different for the Rangers seeing as they are original 6

 

[CupHolders]

I figured hockey would be more popular in New York seeing as the Rangers are original 6 and the NYI were a Juggernaut in the 80's with 4 straight cups.

Although I still assume it's a little different for the Rangers seeing as they are original 6

There are a lot of hockey fans, but a lot of people in general. I live in a predominantly Ranger territory, and while some Ranger fans I know are diehards; for many, hockey is not necessarily their favorite sport. It’s more of support the local NYC team thing.

As for the Isles, the 80’s championships were always overshadowed throughout the NHL between two Canadian dynasties…Montreal and Edmonton.

Also Isles won their championships early then ran into ownership problems. In fact with the current owners, I think the Isles have now broken even with owners who have been incarcerated and those who have not. But the lack of direction lead the Isles fan base to not grow as much as it should have.

 

[Petes2424]

Dude it was mentioned that Varlamov will only play in the States not Canada, Several insiders already said that. So yeah he wont waive for any canadian team.

To be fair, many players having these 10-15 team no-trades ultimately waive. A lot of the time they’re on there for tax purposes to protect their wallet.

 

[MillerTime]

I'm guessing Unkie Lou would want nothing to do with helping out the Leafs goaltending issues.

 

[dj Mahoney]

Mrazek might cost a 1st to dump.

 

[colchar]

It was already reported that varlamov doesn't want to play in Canada same with MAF. So yeah he's not going to waive it.

And when, exactly, did MAF (a Canadian) say that he wouldn't play in Canada?

 

[saintunspecified]

I'm guessing Unkie Lou would want nothing to do with helping out the Leafs goaltending issues.

Meh.

I think varly could get dealt, to but there's no point getting salary back on for *next* year if they do. Nothing personal.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

If Varlamov would ok going to Toronto, Mrazek would be a non starter coming in return. Too much term on that contract and even Mitch Korn can’t fix his game at this point.

It’s strange, though. He was good just last year for Carolina. Obviously they’re a really good defensive team but he shouldn’t be this bad. It’s probably mental.

 

[miscs75]

It’s strange, though. He was good just last year for Carolina. Obviously they’re a really good defensive team but he shouldn’t be this bad. It’s probably mental.

Is it mental or is he just not that good of a goalie? I’m going to go with the latter. Varlamov has a better GAA/SV% behind a team that’s doing substantially worse.

 

[RationalExpectations]

I like how half a season of Koskinen will cost a 1st to dump but 2.5 years of an equally effective Mrazek would cost a 2nd to dump. Try again… that’s not “rational expectations”.

Where did I Say Koskinen would cost a 1st to dump ? I said it would cost a 3rd/4th imo in a previous post at half season. Mrazek has two more years but his cap is not that Huge. Could fit the bill for a cap floor team. If you find a 2nd too cheap the ceiling is Ladd who brought 2x2nd right ? So you really here to argue 2nd vs 2nd + 3rd ?

 

[Price is Wright]

Leafs fans do not want Varlamov and they do not want Dubas negotiating with Lou.