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Vancouver led the league in points at Christmas, Can they continue this run into the New Year?

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Three On Zero said:
He’s just changed from the PDO straw to the strength of schedule straw. Keeps grasping but hasn’t reach yet.

Chalk it up to another salty fan that is seething Vancouver is seeing success without multiple 1st. Team didn’t need a decade of darkness
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This is just in addition. You did not mention the insane 7 player shooting %. Remember that one going forward. The only Canuck who had a 20% last year was Kuzmenko and he is gonzo. No need for me to be salty. I am waiting for who we play in the wildcard spot come playoff time.
 
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Tobias Kahun said:
7 in 11.

15–25.

This stuff is easy to look up
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Tobias Kahun said:
Especially when Canucks fans have to lie about how many games they’ve played in 10 days.
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Let it go, dude. No one lied. A mistake was made. You're managing to turn a mistake I made into a mistake you're making by turning this into a multi-post vendetta.

I'll let you in on a secret. I have significant dyslexia. I have a very difficult time picking words out of lists, and finding products with different names on the grocery shelf. Stuff like that. I also often get words out of order when I type. I failed to recognize the blank Sunday on the calendar schedule on the far left. It just didn't register in my brain.

We good?

Rock on, bro.
 
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mkatcherin00 said:
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This tracks, the Canucks are generally a possession team, not a rush team. Most of the Canuck goals come from some wizardry with Pettersson, Miller or Hughes on the ice, though there's enough firepower to score when a rush presents itself.

Billy Kvcmu said:
So basically we don’t score off the rush, we score with possession game
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Well, they do score off the rush but they don't play an aggressive defense style that leads to a lot of rush chances.
 
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There was a good observation on the Canucks broadcast tonight. Miller was in the O-zone and had 3 chances to make a pass but he held on to the puck until he had a chance to pass to a player that was open. Made the pass and it equaled a good scoring chance. This is a high IQ, well-coached team.

The Van-Car game tonight was playoff hockey for sure. Tight checking yet it still had some great chances for both teams. Great game.
 
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Rowlet said:
This tracks, the Canucks are generally a possession team, not a rush team. Most of the Canuck goals come from some wizardry with Pettersson, Miller or Hughes on the ice, though there's enough firepower to score when a rush presents itself.



Well, they do score off the rush but they don't play an aggressive defense style that leads to a lot of rush chances.
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Im pretty sure the stat is showing they have the most rush chance goals despite having the fewest chances, not that they have the most overall goals. It would make sense that they could still score a bunch despite minimal rush chances. It certainly seems anomalous that they would also lead in rush chance goals.

Though I would like to know how they constitutes rush chance. There’s a big difference between a breakaway or 2 on 1 and a player coming over the line and taking a quick shot
 
Regal said:
Im pretty sure the stat is showing they have the most rush chance goals despite having the fewest chances, not that they have the most overall goals. It would make sense that they could still score a bunch despite minimal rush chances. It certainly seems anomalous that they would also lead in rush chance goals.

Though I would like to know how they constitutes rush chance. There’s a big difference between a breakaway or 2 on 1 and a player coming over the line and taking a quick shot
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I think that might be why the Canucks are #1 in rush goals but last in rush chances. The system and philosophy the team plays under is different, very different.

I would love to hear a breakdown of it all from a retired NHL systems coach. I think every team knows how the Canucks play, and what they are trying to do. The hard part is that the Canucks have the entire roster buying into the system, and it makes it difficult for the other team.
 
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Three On Zero said:
Elias came in and topped 25% of his goal production he had with Calgary prior, perhaps it’s time to stop grasping at random straws and admit they are a good team this season
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the guy you are responding to is having a really difficult time coping with the fact the Canucks are a good team and are ahead of his oilers in the standings - they have literally made up no points on Vancouver even with all these win streaks . its quite amusing watching him squirm and grasp at any stat to deny the only metric that actually counts so far - the standings.
 
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Regal said:
Im pretty sure the stat is showing they have the most rush chance goals despite having the fewest chances, not that they have the most overall goals. It would make sense that they could still score a bunch despite minimal rush chances. It certainly seems anomalous that they would also lead in rush chance goals.

Though I would like to know how they constitutes rush chance. There’s a big difference between a breakaway or 2 on 1 and a player coming over the line and taking a quick shot
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Mike did break down the stat a bit more in a follow up tweet. Canucks chances off the Rush are of far higher quality than average
 
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If they stay healthy, they'll have the #1 seed in the West
 
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Oh i bet you couldnt wait to throw this in here.. but people be like umm ok

They dont focus on rush chances, and that is by design. They take a high percentage rush in the same method they wait for a high percentage shot

For anyone who actually cares about figuring out what is going on instead of screaming unsustainable in the middle of the street - the canucks manage their play to mitigate the oppositions attack options.

Tocchet said it early and then it was forgotten - be better at eliminating rush chances against. They do a bunch of things that explicitly take away transitional offence from other teams
- they do not take or go for generic rush plays with passes or shots that can be turned
- they do not aimlessly take shots from all side angles or d corners that can be turned
- they hold the puck until a high percentage pass can be made

This is all by design, and in actual form showing defence leads to offence. So by posting little snapshots with stats and saying story of their season is so obtuse. I mean its fine if you dont watch the team play, but if you dont watch the team play, take a breath jesus
 
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JAK said:
I think that might be why the Canucks are #1 in rush goals but last in rush chances. The system and philosophy the team plays under is different, very different.

I would love to hear a breakdown of it all from a retired NHL systems coach. I think every team knows how the Canucks play, and what they are trying to do. The hard part is that the Canucks have the entire roster buying into the system, and it makes it difficult for the other team.
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I think it’s likely one of those things where it’s a bit of both. They can generate enough quality chances to still be a high scoring team off the rush despite the fewest chances, but it’s probably a bit of luck/variance that’s pushing them up to the top in rush goals. Someone else posted a tweet about their xGoals off the rush being 5th, but that they’re also doubling their expected goals. I think that tracks.
 
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The team is very good. Honestly some of the posts trying to diminish what they’ve accomplished so far just sound petty.
Are they the best team in the league? Probably not but they are one of the top contenders. And if they add another D they’re one of the deepest teams with elite players at every position. Going to be a handful for any team in the playoffs and like a handful of other teams could contend for the Cup.
I’m just enjoying the ride.
 
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WetcoastOrca said:
The team is very good. Honestly some of the posts trying to diminish what they’ve accomplished so far just sound petty.
Are they the best team in the league? Probably not but they are one of the top contenders. And if they add another D they’re one of the deepest teams with elite players at every position. Going to be a handful for any team in the playoffs and like a handful of other teams could contend for the Cup.
I’m just enjoying the ride.
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Good post and basically what anyone who isn't a salty troll thinks.

I can't stand the Canucks but credit where it's due, they're competitive AF this season. Demko, Hughes and EP are no joke
 
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