Confirmed Trade: [VAN/PIT] Marcus Pettersson, Drew O’Connor for Danton Heinen, Vincent Desharnais, Melvin Fernstrom, NYR's c. 2025 1st (top 13 protected)

[MarkusNaslund19]

Did I miss something? When did O’Conner play for the Canucks before last night?

I was saying when watching him on Pittsburgh, and then it was reinforced with the single game he has played for my team.

Either way, I've given my scouting assessment of the player. I may be proven right or wrong, but he's someone who has always popped for me when watching Pittsburgh as the sort of player that contenders definitely like having on their 3rd line and can play up in a pinch. I'm happy we got him and to me it's far far more than a throw in and a stratospheric difference from what I have seen of Heinen on Van and Pitts (while understanding he was good in Boston but I didn't really watch him there).

 

[Hockey4Lyfe]

I was saying when watching him on Pittsburgh, and then it was reinforced with the single game he has played for my team.

Either way, I've given my scouting assessment of the player. I may be proven right or wrong, but he's someone who has always popped for me when watching Pittsburgh as the sort of player that contenders definitely like having on their 3rd line and can play up in a pinch. I'm happy we got him and to me it's far far more than a throw in and a stratospheric difference from what I have seen of Heinen on Van and Pitts (while understanding he was good in Boston but I didn't really watch him there).

Well, I am not sure I would trust your own scouting analysis over countless Pens fans and media personalities that watch the Penguins every single game.

Not saying he was a bad player but there wasn't a thing I read of anyone being upset about him in the trade. To me, that just speaks to how middling of a player he is.

Like I said, if he somehow finds a way to being in a teams top 6, its probably not a good thing at all.

 

[Turin]

I was saying when watching him on Pittsburgh, and then it was reinforced with the single game he has played for my team.

Either way, I've given my scouting assessment of the player. I may be proven right or wrong, but he's someone who has always popped for me when watching Pittsburgh as the sort of player that contenders definitely like having on their 3rd line and can play up in a pinch. I'm happy we got him and to me it's far far more than a throw in and a stratospheric difference from what I have seen of Heinen on Van and Pitts (while understanding he was good in Boston but I didn't really watch him there).

Sometimes he looks really good, but it's usually individually off the rush and it's rare. Not very good at playing off other players- he spent a lot of time with Crosby and Malkin in the last few years with basically nothing to show for it besides 1.5 months after the Guentzel trade where we thought he turned the corner. If he's in your top six, that means you're down a top six player.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Well, I am not sure I would trust your own scouting analysis over countless Pens fans and media personalities that watch the Penguins every single game.

Not saying he was a bad player but there wasn't a thing I read of anyone being upset about him in the trade. To me, that just speaks to how middling of a player he is.

Like I said, if he somehow finds a way to being in a teams top 6, its probably not a good thing at all.

I'm not calling him a regular top 6er, but I have seen potential for him to be a real luxury bottom 6er (like what he does on a third line can create a margin over other team's 3rd lines) and can play up for short bursts.

I'm just a guy on the internet so I don't blame you for not trusting my assessment. But I've been playing and obsessively watching and reading about hockey for 30 years and I know my own track record so I trust my instincts when I watch a player. Doesn't mean I'm never wrong (Nic Petan at the WJC had me thinking I was seeing a Giroux like player for example, swing and a miss, as a standout).

Sometimes he looks really good, but it's usually individually off the rush and it's rare. Not very good at playing off other players- he spent a lot of time with Crosby and Malkin in the last few years with basically nothing to show for it besides 1.5 months after the Guentzel trade where we thought he turned the corner. If he's in your top six, that means you're down a top six player.

That tracks with what I'm saying, I think.

But he seriously harries D on the other team, transports the puck well, and we've been a slow as molasses team. this year. I think he's exactly what we need on the lower lines and a good bet.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Nah, have seen him on lower lines (and played on a lower line on our team) and was a fabulous forechecker and puck transporter who goes to the right places and tries to do the right things. Really harasses opposing D and takes away their time and space.

Doesn't do flashy things like big hits or breathtaking moves, but a guy who tips the game in your team's favor.

I think he has this skillset but it was really inconsistent for whether he showed it. It could just be playing for Mike Sullivan hurts pretty much everyone, but he was supposed to be doing that far more than he actually was for the Penguins.

He gave Penguins fans a lot of hope after his great performance with Crosby to end last year, but he's been a dud this year. Just a non-factor most of the time that doesn't use his size or speed like he should.

 

[Pengu]

It was a decent trade for the Canucks and the Penguins suck and are just going to suck more. They needed to sell. Heinen and VD suck badly, let's make that clear....

 

[Shoofyou10]

Heinen is streaky but decently better than O'Conner at least using both of their times in Pittsburgh. O'Connor while he has speed and forecheck he doesn't do anything offensively with it. He dragged Sid's line down the first like month of this season. He's a dime a dozen type player (Heinen is too but he has more finish that O'Connor). O'Connor went like 30some games between goals this season.