Confirmed with Link: [VAN/NYR] JT Miller, Erik Brannstrom, & Jackson Dorrington for Filip Chytil, Victor Mancini, and 1st 2025 (Top-13 Protected, Unprotected after)

[Michael Dal Swolle]

I'm hearing that his source is "everyone on this f***ing planet"

 

[potatowejj]

Teams don't want a head-case at high value.

I still put 90+% of the blame from this on the players for acting like children on the playground.

 

[Johnny HFBOARDS]

Came here to be caught up with player details and in my Egyptian water geography.

 

[wonton15]

Next moves should involve:
-Selling off every UFA.
-Seeing if anyone is willing to take on DeBrusk, Myers, Desharnais, etc
-Trading Pettersson after he fails to rebound and has zero excuses left.

What I expect:
-Aquilini to throw a tantrum
-JR/Allvin to mortgage the future to salvage this shit
-Team to moronically spend to the cap the next 2 summers.
-Team to finish bottom 10.

Kinda sounds like Benning 2.0…

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Millers trade value was the drizzling shits, no team wanted that man child.

Other teams wanted him in 2022 and 2023. They doubled down when they knew there were issues. They waited until his value got f***ed.

Zero foresight.

 

[Bgav]

The response on the Rangers board is mixed. Skimming the replies, I couldn't find anyone thrilled with the deal. And then the thread got shut down after just four pages, for no reason that I could see. Odd.

Regressing old team trading a first for a 32 year old never works out

 

[valkynax]

This all feels like a Benning situation, maybe he never actually left.

He probably just shaved his head and lost 900 lbs. You think Aquaman can tell the difference?

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Cry baby headcase locker room cancer singed till 38. Less is more.

And the divide begins…

 

[PG Canuck]

Next moves should involve:
-Selling off every UFA.
-Seeing if anyone is willing to take on DeBrusk, Myers, Desharnais, etc
-Trading Pettersson after he fails to rebound and has zero excuses left.

What I expect:
-Aquilini to throw a tantrum
-JR/Allvin to mortgage the future to salvage this shit
-Team to moronically spend to the cap the next 2 summers.
-Team to finish bottom 10.

Right back into the dark days but just with another Jimbo.

 

[Diamonddog01]

might have this wrong but

Pettersson with Miller in the lineup: 34 GP, 9 goals, 8 assists
Pettersson without Miller in the lineup: 10 GP, 2 goals, 13 assists

Can't wait to get our 100 point centre back on track, no more excuses now!

/s

It's all about Hughes. Petterson will get spoonfed Hughes minutes now and presumably should score way more. He was still off during that stretch however despite the points.

 

[Icebreakers]

JT Miller is significantly better than Bo Horvat. He's also not a UFA like Bo Horvat was.

You think Rantanen would've been traded for Necas+ if he wasn't a UFA?

Miller's value should be way higher than Horvat's.

Its not really the same comparison.

1) Miller has a NMC which limits the value in return. It appears he would only waive to like 3 teams, Rangers, Canes or Devils. Canes were out. Probably only down to Rangers.

2) Miller is 32 years old this year compared to Horvat 27 at the time of the trade. Thats a huge deal

3) They were forced to trade him with everything thats going on basically... which also limits the return.

 

[bossram]

I genuinely don’t understand why they do this if this was the only offer they could get when there will be more opportunities for teams in the off season to make a big splash.

Also I’m not sure why people think Rangers are going to fall off next year. They’ve had a ridiculously unlucky season but they’re still a good team. This is just copium.

So they can end the saga and move on. Leaving the team festering in a toxic environment for another three months seemed untenable at this point.

The Rangers are not a good team. They are Shesterkin + a good PP. That is it. Is there a chance they fall off even more, considering the ages of their core players? Absolutely.

 

[December5th]

watch rangers turn around and trade jt miller for way better package lol. hope it happens

 

[cc]

terrible trade. Really shakes my faith in this management group

 

[potatowejj]

Remember, the Canucks can never have nice things.

 

[Peen]

This entire saga should have resulted in Allvin and JR getting canned before this trade went through...

I don't agree with that. I think they deserve the remainder of 2025.

They blew year 1. Then they did really well and thought this stuff that was player driven was in the past.

Clearly it wasn't, and it blew up. It's such a unique circumstance, and tbh without us seeing what info and specifics they had with them to make them believe things could work / or potentially should have realized it wouldn't work, it's hard to really say if they f***ed it from a foresight perspective.

But it's a results business and it blew up. Let's see where they take things now over the remainder of this season and how they position the team going into next year.

If we're 7-10-1 in November next year and there's murmurs about Hughes being ready to leave, then the franchise will undoubtedly have to enter a rebuild era and should do so with a new group.

 

[Curm]

This is a poor trade, like the Horvat deal, but that's the precedent this management team had set.

A subsequent trade will not change the evaluation of this trade. Whatever player they get with the 1st will not near the play of Miller (just like Hronek compared to Horvat).

Aside: Could you imagine them flipping the pick for Byram and NYR drops to 13th or lower? Gods no.

The irony of this happening at the Horvat trade anniversary...

Based on what they did with the 1st and what the Islanders ended up paying Horvat, that's a fine outcome. I'd rather have Hronek than Horvat straight-up any day.

Like I said, we'll see what they do with one of the 1st round picks they hold, I'm not imagining anything.

 

[Svencouver]

They should have kept Horvat over Miller to begin with tbqh

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Right back into the dark days but just with another Jimbo.

It's the f***ing owner.

The goal will always be to MAKE THE PLAYOFFS and not to be a perennial winner.

The GM's are puppets.

 

[GranvilleIsland]

Now we don't have 10 mil in dead cap when Miller hits the shits in a couple seasons so that in itself is a positive. If Pettersson plays like a 11.6m C now that he's gone that's also a positive. I think Canucks win this trade unless NY wins a cup while Miller contributes. Obviously we wanted a better return but a 1st and Chytil isn't franchise crippling.

 

[credulous]

Teams don't want a head-case at high value.

I still put 90+% of the blame from this on the players for acting like children on the playground.

miller was damaged goods around the league long before this but yes, it's still on him. the canucks were never getting value in a miller trade

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

I hope the pick turns into a 2026 1st.

Praying for a Leafs-Bruins situation for the unprotected first and we cash in big time next year.

 

[Vancouver_2010]

Honestly, i think my previous comment is not enough, seriously does our management has a mental capacity of a 10 years old? which idiot would say yes to this trade? Honestly, this is Jim Benning level of failure. Are they insane? I demand not only they are fired, but their salary to be donated to charity as well, they do not deserved getting paid this season.

 

[ManVanFan]

People that are talking about the protection....

Guys, if the rangers are so bad that they stay bottom 13 with Miller, wtf do you think is going to happen next year with their core all getting older and staying. Its not a bad protection by any means.

A full year with a 100 point match up C top their line up. They will probably be in the hunt for the president's trophy.

 

[GranvilleIsland]

It's the f***ing owner.

The goal will always be to MAKE THE PLAYOFFS and not to be a perennial winner.

Except for when they're trying to win a cup then they want to be a perennial winner and hold onto their draft picks for studs like Jordan Schroeder, Nicklas Jensen etc...