Proposal: VAN - MIN (Fiala+for Miller)

[JohnHodgson]

Minny hasn't had a consistent first line center since Mikko Koivu. JT Miller can easily side in the 1C spot and be their first line center. Van needs a soft rebuild and Fiala fits the picture. Trade would come with an extension for Fiala (7 years 6M per?)

Other pieces added... Rask has some untapped potential and needs a change of scenery. Getting Pearson or Dickinson could be an upgrade on Rask.

To Minny:
JT Miller
Tanner Pearson/Jason Dickinson or Tyler Motte (for cap purposes)

To Van:
1st round pick protected
Kevin Fiala
Viktor Rask
Calen Addison

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[Joseph Nathan]

Minnesota isn't trading fiala during the season , much less adding Calen addison and 1st round pick.

Canucks fans are overvaluing JT's worth. Our beat writer just wrote yesterday, wild aren't currently interested. Minnesota also isn't taking on cap dumps of Tanner Pearson or Dickison.

 

[GuerinUp]

Minny hasn't had a consistent first line center since Mikko Koivu. JT Miller can easily side in the 1C spot and be their first line center. Van needs a soft rebuild and Fiala fits the picture. Trade would come with an extension for Fiala (7 years 6M per?)

Other pieces added... Rask has some untapped potential and needs a change of scenery. Getting Pearson or Dickinson could be an upgrade on Rask.

To Minny:
JT Miller
Tanner Pearson/Jason Dickinson

To Van:
1st round pick protected
Kevin Fiala
Viktor Rask
Calen Addison

youre not getting fiala a 1st and addison EVER for JT miller

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

Minnesota easily says no.

 

[Szechwan]

Fiala is in the middle of his patented 2nd half hot streaks. You're better off asking for him during the first half of the season when he is a listless floater. Right now he's a superstar in the eyes of Wild fans.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Reinhart is a fair comp for a Summer Fiala trade. That was a 1st and an interesting prospect. Fiala has rental value to Minnesota. Internally, the valuation at this time is probably higher.

2 1sts + 2 Interesting Prospects + arguably a multi-year cap dump is a ton, even for a quantity trade.

 

[JohnHodgson]

Minnesota isn't trading fiala during the season , much less adding Calen addison and 1st round pick.

Canucks fans are overvaluing JT's worth. Our beat writer just wrote yesterday, wild aren't currently interested. Minnesota also isn't taking on cap dumps of Tanner Pearson or Dickison.

Reports are that Minny don't want to sign Fiala to a massive extension (which makes sense because they already have an abundance of wingers like Kaprizov, Boldy, Zuc, Greenway, Foligno). They desperately need that number one center that they haven't had in almost a decade.

Why not parlay Fiala into a JT Miller?

 

[JohnHodgson]

Minnesota easily says no.

How often are first line centers available? How often are they in their prime and on an amazing contract?

Minnesota already has an abundance of wingers and don't want to give Fiala a hefty extension. Why not parlay him into a first line center, something the Wild haven't had in a decade?

 

[Bettman Returnz]

Minnesota isn't trading fiala during the season , much less adding Calen addison and 1st round pick.

Canucks fans are overvaluing JT's worth. Our beat writer just wrote yesterday, wild aren't currently interested. Minnesota also isn't taking on cap dumps of Tanner Pearson or Dickison.

Don’t worry we already kiboshed the idea on our own thread. It’s not going to happen.

 

[Joseph Nathan]

How often are first line centers available? How often are they in their prime and on an amazing contract?

Minnesota already has an abundance of wingers and don't want to give Fiala a hefty extension. Why not parlay him into a first line center, something the Wild haven't had in a decade?

Minnesota doesn't have an abundance of Winger after fiala. No thank you. We aren't taking fiala from boldy. Russo,,Minnesota beat writer said recently we aren't interested any longer in JT. Your proposal is bad . A championship contender isn't trading a player like fiala from their team. We are fine having freddy there because our coach has no interest in taking him off

 

[JohnHodgson]

Minnesota doesn't have an abundance of Winger after fiala. No thank you. We aren't taking fiala from boldy. Russo,,Minnesota beat writer said recently we aren't interested any longer in JT. Your proposal is bad . A championship contender isn't trading a player like fiala from their team. We are fine having freddy there because our coach has no interest in taking him off

I can't take you seriously if you don't know your own team's strengths.

Kaprizov? Zuccarello? Foligno? Boldy? Greenway?

Now name me your first line centers.

 

[M2Beezy]

Rangers can do better than that Minny deal for JT Miller

 

[Joseph Nathan]

I can't take you seriously if you don't know your own team's strengths.

Kaprizov? Zuccarello? Foligno? Boldy? Greenway?

Now name me your first line centers.

Kaprizov, Zuccarello
Fiala, boldy
Greenway, foligno
Duhaime, connor dewar

Yeah , our center aren't good but we are okay with what we have currently. We aren't making ourselves weak at one position to bring in an older player, when fiala and boldy together has created another dynamic line

 

[Canadian Canuck]

I can't take you seriously if you don't know your own team's strengths.

Kaprizov? Zuccarello? Foligno? Boldy? Greenway?

Now name me your first line centers.

Spot on.

 

[Joseph Nathan]

Spot on.

It's not hard to understand our gm , same one who didn't make a move for trocheck, eichel is okay with what we have. just because we have alot of good Wingers doesn't mean we are going to take from it or think we are taking on cap dumps and giving up fiala, much less a 1st and addison

 

[JohnHodgson]

Kaprizov, Zuccarello
Fiala, boldy
Greenway, foligno
Duhaime, connor dewar

Yeah , our center aren't good but we are okay with what we have currently. We aren't making ourselves weak at one position to bring in an older player, when fiala and boldy together has created another dynamic line

You're acting like JT Miller isn't a substantial upgrade on Fiala - sorry buddy... can't take you seriously.

Have a good day.

 

[JohnHodgson]

Rangers can do better than that Minny deal for JT Miller

Rangers fans don't want to offer anything more than a late first, a prospect who isn't even in NA and wants to be traded and a guy like Chytil.

 

[Bazeek]

How often are first line centers available? How often are they in their prime and on an amazing contract?

Minnesota already has an abundance of wingers and don't want to give Fiala a hefty extension. Why not parlay him into a first line center, something the Wild haven't had in a decade?

Because Guerin's probably looking more than a year and a half into the future, when we wouldn't be able to afford Miller.

With Fiala for Miller there's a genuine risk that it's mostly a lateral move in the present while offering very little future upside. If they have to part with Fiala it makes a lot more sense to keep him on a line with Boldy for now and, if extending him isn't a realistic option, trade him for futures in the offseason.

Guerin's had almost two and a half years to sniff around on centers and his biggest acquisition there has been Freddy Gaudreau. GMs BS to the media a ton but I don't think he's been kidding about not considering it a pressing issue.

 

[Joseph Nathan]

You're acting like JT Miller isn't a substantial upgrade on Fiala - sorry buddy... can't take you seriously.

Have a good day.

And you can see other wild fans here have said no. You made a really bad proposal and can't understand, or reason why wild fans said no. Yeah, wild a contender are going to trade fiala.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

I like the idea of trading for Miller but that's a lot to trade for a guy the Wild probably can't afford next year. Pass.

 

[JohnHodgson]

Because Guerin's probably looking more than a year and a half into the future, when we wouldn't be able to afford Miller.

With Fiala for Miller there's a genuine risk that it's mostly a lateral move in the present while offering very little future upside. If they have to part with Fiala it makes a lot more sense to keep him on a line with Boldy for now and, if extending him isn't a realistic option, trade him for futures in the offseason.

Guerin's had almost two and a half years to sniff around on centers and his biggest acquisition there has been Freddy Gaudreau. GMs BS to the media a ton but I don't think he's been kidding about not considering it a pressing issue.

You won't be able to afford Miller? You guys have 23M in cap space in 2023/2024? Am I missing something?

It's hard to take you seriously when you say there's a risk that Fiala for Miller is a lateral move in the present.

Let me know when Fiala is a point per game player, leads the team in scoring, plays 21 minutes a night, plays on PP and PK, has the ability to play all 3 forward positions, and has a 53% faceoff percentage.

JT Miller is ahead of the next highest scorer on the Canucks by 14 points. He would INSTANTLY be your second best forward by a country mile.

How many first line centers have been available in the last two and a half years to be traded? How many of them are in their prime and on an amazing contract? And please for the love of god, don't say Jack Eichel... please don't use a once in a generation situation as some sort of baseline.

 

[MNRube]

The C issue isn’t going to an issue for long. JEE is an elite shutdown C and Rossi is pretty much NHL ready

 

[Joseph Nathan]

You won't be able to afford Miller? You guys have 23M in cap space in 2023/2024? Am I missing something?

It's hard to take you seriously when you say there's a risk that Fiala for Miller is a lateral move in the present.

Let me know when Fiala is a point per game player, leads the team in scoring, plays 21 minutes a night, plays on PP and PK, has the ability to play all 3 forward positions, and has a 53% faceoff percentage.

JT Miller is ahead of the next highest scorer on the Canucks by 14 points. He would INSTANTLY be your second best forward by a country mile.

How many first line centers have been available in the last two and a half years to be traded? How many of them are in their prime and on an amazing contract? And please for the love of god, don't say Jack Eichel... please don't use a once in a generation situation as some sort of baseline.

We don't have 23 mil . Like how do you not understand or care to do a little research. We have Parise and suter cap hold. Eichel was available, and our gm didn't make a move for him. Trocheck was available, etc... you can't just use a strowman argument, false argument and skip over our counter argument as you want to hear yes

 

[M2Beezy]

Rangers fans don't want to offer anything more than a late first, a prospect who isn't even in NA and wants to be traded and a guy like Chytil.

Schnieder, 2023 1st, Chytil and 2022 2nd seems to be the base to start the talks for Miller

 

[JohnHodgson]

We don't have 23 mil . Like how do you not understand or care to do a little research. We have Parise and suter cap hold. Eichel was available, and our gm didn't make a move for him. Trocheck was available, etc... you can't just use a strowman argument, false argument and skip over our counter argument as you want to hear yes