Confirmed with Link: VAN/COL Poolman (20% retained) + 2025 4th for Erik Brannstrom(Waived)

VanillaCoke

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Brannstrom in Abby is low key an asset, he's got some tools of an nhler and Ottawa not exactly an ideal development locale.

I'll prob buy tickets to a few Abby games to check out him and our other young guns percolating down there (unlike the oil)
 
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honestly we needed a body pretty desperately on the left side. i was hoping for someone who had a little bit of a better chance of being a difference maker, like making a trade for kovacevic in the summer

but for now, this is better than calling up hirose, who sucks, or two 20 y/o rookies.
 

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honestly we needed a body pretty desperately on the left side. i was hoping for someone who had a little bit of a better chance of being a difference maker, like making a trade for kovacevic in the summer

but for now, this is better than calling up hirose, who sucks, or two 20 y/o rookies.

Not a Wolanin fan?
 

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honestly we needed a body pretty desperately on the left side. i was hoping for someone who had a little bit of a better chance of being a difference maker, like making a trade for kovacevic in the summer

but for now, this is better than calling up hirose, who sucks, or two 20 y/o rookies.

Kovacevic was a 6/7 defenseman on a bottom feeder team at the age of 27 last season. If he has a breakout year, that's great for the Devils, but let's not pretend that he was a sure fire top 4 defenceman that the Canucks whiffed on.

The left side of the defence definitely needs some work still and it's likely one of management's top in-season priorities.
 

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Kovacevic was a 6/7 defenseman on a bottom feeder team at the age of 27 last season. If he has a breakout year, that's great for the Devils, but let's not pretend that he was a sure fire top 4 defenceman that the Canucks whiffed on.

The left side of the defence definitely needs some work still and it's likely one of management's top in-season priorities.

And he put up stellar results in 16:30 ATOI, managing to be a team leading +11 on a roster with 22 players with a minus in front of their +/-.

At 766k this is exactly the kind of player you should try to get to extact a ton of surplus value from.
 

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And he put up stellar results in 16:30 ATOI, managing to be a team leading +11 on a roster with 22 players with a minus in front of their +/-.

At 766k this is exactly the kind of player you should try to get to extact a ton of surplus value from.

Sure, in retrospect it was a savvy move that you'd like your team to make, but you can hardly use it as a template when 30 other GM's didn't see the player this way.

+/- is a terrible stat and should never be referenced by anyone.
 

VanJack

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Went back in time and checked out the quotes from Sens GM Pierre Dorion when they acquired Brannstrom from the Golden Knights in exchange for Mark Stone.

Officially the trade was Mark Stone and Tobias Lindberg to the Knights for Erik Brannstrom, Oscar Lindberg and a 2020 second round pick (Egor Sokolov). Yes, an anomaly, that two guys named Lindberg swapped teams.

Of course at his media conference Dorion was waxing poetic about Brannstrom and the offensive catalyst he would bring to the Sens. Talk about a 'nothing trade', at least for Ottawa. The Lindberg's are long gone, out of the league.....and Sokolov lasted a couple of training camps and was traded this off-season to Utah for Jan Jenik.

Brannstrom bounced back forth between the NHL and Belleville, and was a frequent healthy scratch in Ottawa. And of course the Ottawa faithful, never warmed to him since he'd been the key guy coming back in the trade of one of the most popular Senators ever in Stone.

LOL!...in the end, Dorion was the Eastern Conference's version of Jim Benning. So it we're looking at looking at things with 'rose-colored glasses', maybe Brannstrom can replicate the career of Gustav Forsling? Then again, maybe not.
 
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Sure, in retrospect it was a savvy move that you'd like your team to make, but you can hardly use it as a template when 30 other GM's didn't see the player this way.

+/- is a terrible stat and should never be referenced by anyone.

A bunch of us here had either listed him as a target based on his performance/salary or had assumed that the acquisition cost would be too high based on that performance/salary so it isn't a hindsight thing.
 

VanJack

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According to Alvin, the coaching staff is looking forward to the opportunity of working with Brannstrom.

Who knows? A couple of seasons ago, I would have said there was 'zero chance' Noah Juulsen would ever become an NHL d-man. I couldn't see him even being a 'depth role' option at the NHL level. But after a couple of seasons in Abbotsford, here he is.

So if Brannstrom has any potential left, working with the coaching staffs in Vancouver and Abbotsford could bring it out.
 

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According to Alvin, the coaching staff is looking forward to the opportunity of working with Brannstrom.

Who knows? A couple of seasons ago, I would have said there was 'zero chance' Noah Juulsen would ever become an NHL d-man. I couldn't see him even being a 'depth role' option at the NHL level. But after a couple of seasons in Abbotsford, here he is.

So if Brannstrom has any potential left, working with the coaching staffs in Vancouver and Abbotsford could bring it out.

Juulsen has played NHL games every year he’s been in pro hockey other than 19-20, when he was coming back from almost losing his career in 18-19 because a puck demolished his face and messed up his vision and he missed like 9 months.
 
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If you told me the Canucks trade was Podkolzin and Poolman for Brannstrom straight up, I would've considered it a massive win,

It's amazing how good some of these deals from Allvin have been.

Also, given the coaching staff's track record with defensemen, Brannstrom's going to be a really good project for them.
 

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I watched him in a couple Ottawa games last season, and he wasn't actually bad. I think he gets a lot of poop because of expectations for where he was drafted and who he was traded for. He's an NHLer. First injury we get on D, and he'll be the first one they call up.
 

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That’s not how LTIR works. Essentially, LTIR means you can exceed that cap by that contract amount (2.5m). However there’s another mechanism in place. It’s called daily cap accrual. Every day you gain a little bit more cap space. It grows quite a bit and with say 2.5m in space to start the year, that becomes around 11m by the trade deadline.
I don't know that you can really call it a "mechanism", it's just the product of being under the cap more generally. Meaning there is some unspent cap space throughout the year, and by the time the deadline rolls around you can spend it all on a player whose full annual salary would be higher than that amount if you'd had him all year, but since you're only paying a part of it for the chunk of the season after he arrives, you can fit it in.
 

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I don't know that you can really call it a "mechanism", it's just the product of being under the cap more generally. Meaning there is some unspent cap space throughout the year, and by the time the deadline rolls around you can spend it all on a player whose full annual salary would be higher than that amount if you'd had him all year, but since you're only paying a part of it for the chunk of the season after he arrives, you can fit it in.

It’s just usually easier to describe it to people that way but 100% this, yes.
 

VanJack

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Juulsen has played NHL games every year he’s been in pro hockey other than 19-20, when he was coming back from almost losing his career in 18-19 because a puck demolished his face and messed up his vision and he missed like 9 months.
Brannstrom has played NHL games every year he's been in pro hockey, other than 18-19 when he was rookie with Vegas and played 41 games with their farm team in Chicago.

And in terms of games in the AHL, Juulsen has played 152 games in the minors since he broke in, while Brannstrom has played in just 82 AHL games.

So what's your point exactly?
 

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Brannstrom has played NHL games every year he's been in pro hockey, other than 18-19 when he was rookie with Vegas and played 41 games with their farm team in Chicago.

And in terms of games in the AHL, Juulsen has played 152 games in the minors since he broke in, while Brannstrom has played in just 82 AHL games.

So what's your point exactly?


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