Yeah, Ottawa with Sanderson, Chabot, Zub and Chychrun on D is shit ass team. Senators played solid defense and had more wins than losses at the start.
But scoring 2 points to a team is nothing special for any top6 forward, like at all.
Confirmed Trade: [VAN/CGY] Elias Lindholm for Andrei Kuzmenko, Hunter Brzustewicz, Joni Jurmo, 2024 1st, cond. 2024 4th
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Yeah, Ottawa with Sanderson, Chabot, Zub and Chychrun on D is shit ass team. Senators played solid defense and had more wins than losses at the start.
But scoring 2 points to a team is nothing special for any top6 forward, like at all.
Billy Kvcmu
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It has more talent than Vancouver, especially on defense. Their goalies suck (pretty much what killed Vancouver last season), and their forwards are very inconsistent. But look at their age, their top forwards are 21-25 year old. Oh, and coaching was a huge problem.
They don’t have anyone close to Vancouvers core talent of JTM/Petey/Hughes.
HarrySPlinkett
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Lol no part of the Ottawa Senators has more talent than Vancouver.
We shall see what you say next season... if Ottawa solves its problems with coaching and goaltending.
Sergei Shirokov
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Moving Kuz was the right thing, glad to see hes doing well, but it was the right move for us.
What was Miller's best season at age 22? How good was Hughes defensively at age 21? How many points has Pettersson scored in the last 20 or so games?
And don't forget that Vancouver plays in one of the suckiest divisions ever...
Just because you have some good d-men or some young d-men that may eventually become elite doesn't mean your team can't be ass in the mean time. Ottawa is a bottom 10 team with those d-men, what does that tell you?
Also Ottawa was 5-6-0 when they faced the Canucks the night Kuzmenko had 2 points against them. 5-7-0 after losing to them. Where exactly was this winning record you speak of?
Ottawa was 8-7-0 after 15 games.
And when your best goalie has 0.890, you hardly can be good...
what does the 15 game mark have to do with when the Canucks played them? I'm sure some other bottom 10 teams at some point and time had a winning record this year especially as early as 15 or so games into the season. Does that mean they were good teams too?
Also hate to break it to you, goaltending is 1 aspect of a team, so if you're goalie sucks and you lose a lot due to it, then your team sucks.
DFF
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I doubt Lindholm will win any game for you
But he maybe a good coattail with the right line mates that can carry him if he still has it
Btw, he quit in the playoffs
eviohh26
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To be fair. The entire flames roster quits in the playoffs.
Flames Fanatic
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This is hilarious. You are now so turned around that you are making points for the person you are arguing with.
Artorius Horus T
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interesting tidbit, it took beginning of the 4th season (and about 230 career games) for Lindholm
to reach 100 career points, where it took Kuzmenko about 100 less/fewer games, to reach 100 points.
sure sure, Elias was 18 years old when he started his NHL career and Andrei 26
but nevertheless
It took trade to Calgary for Lindholm, to breakout in the NHL, at 25. when he scored 70+ points.
to reach 100 career points, where it took Kuzmenko about 100 less/fewer games, to reach 100 points.
sure sure, Elias was 18 years old when he started his NHL career and Andrei 26
but nevertheless
It took trade to Calgary for Lindholm, to breakout in the NHL, at 25. when he scored 70+ points.
bleedgreen
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Don’t blame Lindy for being a Hurricane. He was playing a ton with Jordan Staal, who’s never missed a team logo on the goalies sweater.interesting tidbit, it took beginning of the 4th season (and about 230 career games) for Lindholm
to reach 100 career points, where it took Kuzmenko about 100 less/fewer games, to reach 100 points.
sure sure, Elias was 18 years old when he started his NHL career and Andrei 26
but nevertheless
It took trade to Calgary for Lindholm, to breakout in the NHL, at 25. when he scored 70+ points.
Seriously he played on some of the worst Canes teams ever, especially offensively. They didn’t play him much with young Aho/TT/Skinner, this is why his numbers were poor before he played for Calgary.
It’s hardly appropriate to use as an argument to compare him to Kuzmenko.
Nucklehead Supreme
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No I am not, I laid out exactly what it was and, it wasn't a lot. Again since this is so very hard for you:
A low first is not a big piece. I hope I don't have to explain this, but fear you'll likely not understand this or again create some narrative that doesn't exist....
A nothing prospect is a nothing prospect.
A prospect who likely never ends up getting enough playing time on our blue line, given the abundance of offensive dmen there already, something that was a concern for the Canucks and the player (I explained this clear for you since you seem to be incapable of even basic understanding)
I have already explained the panning out narrative you keep peddling, which I never insinuated. So maybe move on from that?
A cap dump which was advantageous for us to get rid of.
Yah, not a lot.
Again reading comprehension should not be this hard bud. Do better.
oceanchild
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Haha, are you cherry picking on each player to the absolute extreme to make a point that still doesn’t stand up?
The west is so much stronger than the east right now, and Vancouver is playing in a way harder division than the Sens.
Sounds like the goalie plays behind a crap defense. We see marginal goalies do well frequently when behind a good defensive group.
oceanchild
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Happy to see Kuz playing well. Hopefully Lindholm can find his way, but it’s great to see Kuz get hot and go on a bit of a run. I hope he re-signs and is happy in Calgary.
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Canucks GM rushed to make an early trade when they had no need to. The kind of behavior you see from teams in 7th to 10th place.
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