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Confirmed Trade: [VAN/CGY] Elias Lindholm for Andrei Kuzmenko, Hunter Brzustewicz, Joni Jurmo, 2024 1st, cond. 2024 4th

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Double Dion said:
I thought he really stood out in a positive way in the young stars tournament. Especially for an 18 year old. But otherwise I agree.


The PK is where you'll LOVE Lindholm. He's the best PK forward in the league in my opinion. When him and Backlund are together it's an like we're playing 5 on 5.
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That's outstanding news re Lindholm! Our PK needs a boost. It's already leagues better than last year but we still need more quality personnel to put out a handful of strong PK units. Blueger and Joshua is already a strong unit. Maybe Lindholm pairs with Pettersson if the chemistry is there. Maybe Aman, another Swede who gets a lot of PK minutes.
 
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Brookbank said:
They bought low. Everyone thinks they know what Kuz really is now. Just like they thought about Boeser last year.
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We can disagree. Just saying the guy I quoted was saying something differently before the trade than he is now. Kind of disingenuous. Boeser is actually a good comparable. He's shooting an unsustainable 22.4% this season. Last season he shot 10.1%. He's a great shooter so 13-14% should be attainable. Boeser won't look like this next year. Just like Kuzmenko is a 20 goal guy who scored 40 when shooting 27%.
 
Jay26 said:
That's outstanding news re Lindholm! Our PK needs a boost. It's already leagues better than last year but we still need more quality personnel to put out a handful of strong PK units. Blueger and Joshua is already a strong unit. Maybe Lindholm pairs with Pettersson if the chemistry is there. Maybe Aman, another Swede who gets a lot of PK minutes.
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He wins most of his draws, has a great stick and reads the play well. Him and Backlund together are incredible at killing penalties. They also generate a lot of offense while killing.
 
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SeanMoneyHands said:
Kuzmenko could be the young sniper for Huberdeau to get him back into Florida panther Huberdeau. Huberdeau and Lindholm had zero chemistry.
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They can't play those 2 together. They'd get scored on every shift. Kuzmenko should go on Backlund's wing with Coleman. They can hold him.
 
Lindholm will likely play on Petterssons wing though it would be really tempting to go with a 1-2-3 punch of Pettersson, Miller and Lindholm down the middle.

I can see him scoring 45-50 goals if him and Elias click. If Kuzmenko can score 39 on Petterssons wing, then Lindholm can too. Lindholm likely has to take a pay cut this summer if he wants to resign in Van with the Pettersson resigning on the forefront
 
E D said:
Doesn't feel like there's a loser in this trade, both teams get what they want.

Vancouver gets the right handed 2C they needed who can PK, can be on their PP, take draws, and be good defensively. Obviously the hope is he can thrive in a new system with new linemates considering he's been having a poor season by his standards. His play will likely dictate a lot of how this trade is perceived in the short term.

If he struggles, it will be rough for the Canucks, but he's an upgrade on that 2nd line even while having a poor season by his standards. See how he fares this season and, if possible, discuss a resigning in the offseason. Can see us moving out players with money to get it done should he have a great end to the year/postseason run.

Calgary gets a lot to like in this deal, and value wise probably comes out on top if things pan out for the pieces. The 1st is likely later but picks are always nice and welcome for a team struggling to compete. Loved Kuzmenko and his personality + electric play will be sorely missed. When he's going, he is a fun player to watch. Wish him the best in Calgary.

Brzustewicz is having a stellar year right now and has great potential. I've seen many people go back and forth on his value since being drafted and having the season he's having. Haven't seen much, only read reports but he sounds very promising and will be a loss for the Canucks blueline future. Not a sure thing though. I did see a couple games of his, but it was pre-season at the Young Stars tourney and watching him... I was very unimpressed at the time considering how many liked the pickup for a 3rd rounder. But since then he's been popping off. Has the potential to make the trade look silly eventually.

Jurmo is not much of a loss. If Calgary thinks they can get something out of him, great. But I've followed him a bit and he's just not it imo. Even my friend who I'm almost positive was the biggest Jurmo fan for a while after he was drafted and watched quite a few of his games gave up on him in the last year or so. Would not count on him being really anything, likely wasn't going to be signed by Canucks.

All in all, Calgary probably wins in total value if Brz, Kuz and the 1st can all pan out well for them and turn into tangible pieces for their future. Vancouver gets a key piece for their playoff run. The future can make this trade look good or bad either way depending on quite a few factors, but looking at it right now, everyone gets what they want
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Underrated but just as important. Getting out of Kuzmenkos contract gives us an extra 5.5M to play with this offseason. Pays for Peteys raise.
 
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SeanMoneyHands said:
Lindholm will likely play on Petterssons wing though it would be really tempting to go with a 1-2-3 punch of Pettersson, Miller and Lindholm down the middle.

I can see him scoring 45-50 goals if him and Elias click. If Kuzmenko can score 39 on Petterssons wing, then Lindholm can too. Lindholm likely has to take a pay cut this summer if he wants to resign in Van with the Pettersson resigning on the forefront
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Pulling an Elliotte here, but I wonder if Sharangovich slots back into center now.

Huberdeau - Govy - Kuzmenko could be fun to watch, offensively at least. I doubt it though, they'd probably get caved in.
 
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So this dude got it exactly right

Proposal: - Lindholm to Canucks for Hunter Brustewicz +

To CGY Hunter Brustewicz Kuzmenko 2024 1st round pick To Van Lindholm Canucks then extend Lindholm to a 7.5 x 7 contract The trade would allow the Canucks to continue to deploy the lotto line and have Lindholm Centre the 2nd line with players like Mikhyaev, Hoglander, Suter etc.. or they...
forums.hfboards.com forums.hfboards.com
 
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McJedi said:
Why. You paid a high price. I didnt want the Avs to give up that much for a rental.
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Because now the likely best available options are Sean Monahan or Adam Henrique. Yay?

A late 1st and probably our 3rd/4th best prospect who’s path to the NHL would’ve been blocked by Hronek and Willander anyway? Yea, that’s not going to hurt much.
 
Double Dion said:
They can't play those 2 together. They'd get scored on every shift. Kuzmenko should go on Backlund's wing with Coleman. They can hold him.
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True but what if Kuzmenko is the perfect linemate for Huberdeau? He could be the Anthony Duclair who scored 31 goals spending quite a bit of time on a line with Huberdeau. If Huberdeau and Kuzmenko have chemistry, Kuzmenko could score 50 next year. I think you have to try these two together at least.
 
SeanMoneyHands said:
True but what if Kuzmenko is the perfect linemate for Huberdeau? He could be the Anthony Duclair who scored 31 goals spending quite a bit of time on a line with Huberdeau. If Huberdeau and Kuzmenko have chemistry, Kuzmenko could score 50 next year. I think you have to try these two together at least.
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I mean we aren't going to win anyway. Why not?
 
Rafafouille said:
A 3rd round pick is a B prospect. Anything past 15-20 overall is a project. If my Habs trade Lane Hudson tomorrow, they've traded a B prospect even if he's trending well. Jurmo has 26 pts in 156 ligga games. He's a bust. A guy who's been healthy scratched 5 times this year and plays 10-12 minutes a night making 5.5m is a cap dump.
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Saying a "3rd round pick is a B prospect" is laughable naïve and simply not a fact.

Players obviously develop after they are drafted and their value changes accordingly. I'm shocked I have to explain such a basic premise.

Was Kris Letang a "B prospect" just before joining the league ? (He wasn't because he developed)
 
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Nona Di Giuseppe said:
Considering you just referred to Kuzmenko as a cap dump, your weigh in on this isn't much.
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Kuzmenko was a cap dump. Conroy just said "they needed us to take Kuzmenko's money back." Those were his words exactly.

Billy Kvcmu said:
Kuzmenko will score a bunch of pts if Calgary doesn’t care about winning for the rest of the season, because he also bleeds a lot of goals
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Yup. Huberdeau also bleeds goals. He doesn't score them though.
 
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