Proposal: Value of Quinn Hughes

Much rather have Casey and they can keep Mercer. Mercer sucks.
Mercer doesn't suck, he just isn't what people hoped he would be, he's a 20 goal guy. He's good on the PK and a never ending motor. He's a solid depth player just not the top 6 guy people thought he was going to be.
 
So much wrong with this and so disingenuous.

First off the devil's are a team that got undeserved hype a few years ago then failed to make the playoffs and then had a mediocre year finished by a pathetic 1st round loss, not exactly an upward trajectory.

The devil's had what five more points than the nucks despite the numerous injuries including our goalie for 70 games and being forced to trade our 2nd best 100 point forward than losing the guy we traded for and our #1 centre playing healthy again for the rest of the year one point out of the playoffs.

The Canucks will be a much better team next year for the simple fact Demko is healthy and we rebuilt our Dcorp and it's one of the strongest to go along with what should be a top five goalie tandem.

The team has 20+ million with only two forward spots to fill along with plenty of assets to pull a trade.

The devil's have an injury prone #1 centre, a bunch of trades that didn't really work out and unreliable goaltending and let's be honest all those high picks haven't exactly lit the league on fire.

So what why exactly would Quinn want to leave the team in a beautiful city that adores him, made him captain and he's built a life in?
Wouldn't it be fair to say that Jack could just as easily go to UFA and come here followed by Luke?
Stupid right? Just like it's stupid that people think Quinn would do the same when at his age in all the years we've never seen it. When they are old and on their last contract sure but not now.
Besides Quinn literally said his #1 goal is to win with the team that drafted him and made him captain, just like Jack and Nico.

End of the day it's funny that a devil's fan who's team literally made the playoffs than didn't because of goaltending and then had a season barely better than ours despite all that happened feels you guys are a superior team now or more importantly two years from now, or you think that shitty offer would get the 2nd best Dman at worst with two years remaining at 8 million.
Lots of Cope here. Quinn's on the way to Jersey City to join the brothers. Next!
 
I think there is a pretty solid chance that Quinn Hughes gets dealt to the Devils this summer.

And if it happens, I could see it being a 3-way trade that involves Hamilton going to another team.

Something like:

To New Jersey
Quinn Hughes

To Vancouver
2026 1st round pick
2026 2nd round pick
Seamus Casey/Simon Nemec
Erik Haula
Lenni Hameenaho
Asset from 3rd team for Hamilton

To 3rd team
Dougie Hamilton
 
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I think there is a pretty solid chance that Quinn Hughes gets dealt to the Devils this summer.

And if it happens, I could see it being a 3-way trade that involves Hamilton going to another team.

Something like:

To New Jersey
Quinn Hughes

To Vancouver
2027 1st round pick
2027 2nd round pick
Seamus Casey/Simon Nemec
Erik Haula
Lenni Hameenaho
Asset from 3rd team for Hamilton

To 3rd team
Dougie Hamilton
Lol 2027 picks? If Canucks trade Hughes this offseason, they’ll get better offers from other teams.
 
So much wrong with this and so disingenuous.

First off the devil's are a team that got undeserved hype a few years ago then failed to make the playoffs and then had a mediocre year finished by a pathetic 1st round loss, not exactly an upward trajectory.

The devil's had what five more points than the nucks despite the numerous injuries including our goalie for 70 games and being forced to trade our 2nd best 100 point forward than losing the guy we traded for and our #1 centre playing healthy again for the rest of the year one point out of the playoffs.

The Canucks will be a much better team next year for the simple fact Demko is healthy and we rebuilt our Dcorp and it's one of the strongest to go along with what should be a top five goalie tandem.

The team has 20+ million with only two forward spots to fill along with plenty of assets to pull a trade.

The devil's have an injury prone #1 centre, a bunch of trades that didn't really work out and unreliable goaltending and let's be honest all those high picks haven't exactly lit the league on fire.

So what why exactly would Quinn want to leave the team in a beautiful city that adores him, made him captain and he's built a life in?
Wouldn't it be fair to say that Jack could just as easily go to UFA and come here followed by Luke?
Stupid right? Just like it's stupid that people think Quinn would do the same when at his age in all the years we've never seen it. When they are old and on their last contract sure but not now.
Besides Quinn literally said his #1 goal is to win with the team that drafted him and made him captain, just like Jack and Nico.

End of the day it's funny that a devil's fan who's team literally made the playoffs than didn't because of goaltending and then had a season barely better than ours despite all that happened feels you guys are a superior team now or more importantly two years from now, or you think that shitty offer would get the 2nd best Dman at worst with two years remaining at 8 million.
Yikes you need a nap!
4 of our top players were hurt, 2 of our top defenders are coming off of long injuries and are probably still hurt, but were needed to play. Theseries went about the way all Jersy fans expected with the list of broken players. Upwrad trajectory, your team was fine and then your bitched ruined the room, the coach bailed, Boeser is gone, and is Demko really healthy? Marky is better than Demko, so theres that. "A bunch of trades that didnt work out"? Cotter for Holtz (12 pts this yr) still love the trade, Bahl and a 1st for Marky, yeah thats bad! Kovacevic for a 5th, we lost theat one for sure (resigned 4x4)! Marino (35 games this yr) for 2- 2nds one which became Mikail Yegorov (BU's stud goalie), otherwise known as our #1 prospect! Hell our GM got a pick AFTER the season by a trade and sign for Damon Severson for 8 yrs!
History of NHL trades by the New Jersey Devils - NHL Trade Tracker.

Math is the reason why Jack and Luke wont! Jack signed through 27-28 (3 yrs), Luke will be signed to 4-6 years, Quinn is done in two. The opportunity to play together wont line up like this until they are way into their careers, but gone on, talk yourself into something! Your team is a shitshow Rutherford even said it in a presser. Quinn gets traded somewhere for a smaller pkg than Van fans want, since keeping him long term is not likely (thanks Jimmy R).
 
I think there is a pretty solid chance that Quinn Hughes gets dealt to the Devils this summer.

And if it happens, I could see it being a 3-way trade that involves Hamilton going to another team.

Something like:

To New Jersey
Quinn Hughes

To Vancouver
2026 1st round pick
2026 2nd round pick
Seamus Casey/Simon Nemec
Erik Haula
Lenni Hameenaho
Asset from 3rd team for Hamilton

To 3rd team
Dougie Hamilton

I don’t think there’s a chance Quinn is moved this summer. The overall package makes sense to me though. Ideally to me you’d be able to move Dougie without needing to use Vancouver and would instead use Vancouver to retain on Palat and reroute him to a 3rd team.
 
I don’t think there’s a chance Quinn is moved this summer. The overall package makes sense to me though. Ideally to me you’d be able to move Dougie without needing to use Vancouver and would instead use Vancouver to retain on Palat and reroute him to a 3rd team.
With or without Quinn coming yet I feel like the Devils need to move on from Dougie asap. And I’m a big fan of his. He’s just too much of a liability to win with. Especially when he’s not scoring.
 
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I'd say the odds of him getting traded just went up to 40-50% with the Tocchet news. He has very, very few reasons to stick around when this team ranks near or at the bottom of the league for desirability. And that says something, because they play in one of the most beautiful cities in the world.

But it's expensive as f***, the future looks questionable at best, the owners are f***ing morons and then you have the whole Canadian media circus issue as well. I'd be willing to bet most players will have the Canucks on their no trade lists. I certainly would.
 
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With or without Quinn coming yet I feel like the Devils need to move on from Dougie asap. And I’m a big fan of his. He’s just too much of a liability to win with. Especially when he’s not scoring.

I agree he has to go this summer. I’ve been saying that for ages. My issue with Dougie is he’s a luxury. We can’t afford this luxury when there’s incredibly pressing needs up front. Kovy/Pesce are relied upon more at 5v5, Luke can take Dougie’s PP1 role, and we have Casey/Nemec on ELCs. 9 mil for a 3rd pair PP2 guy is absurd regardless of Dougie still being a good player.

The Devils don’t really have an avenue to improving the forwards as much as we need to without moving at least one of Dougie or Palat. Palat’s damn near unmovable without giving up a significant asset. Marleau for example cost a first to dump and that was only with 1 year left on his deal. Palat has 2.
 
I'd say the odds of him getting traded just went up to 40-50% with the Tocchet news. He has very, very few reasons to stick around when this team ranks near or at the bottom of the league for desirability. And that says something, because they play in one of the most beautiful cities in the world.

But it's expensive as f***, the future looks questionable at best, the owners are f***ing morons and then you have the whole Canadian media circus issue as well. I'd be willing to bet most players will have the Canucks on their no trade lists. I certainly would.

Depending on the replacement I actually think the Tocchet thing could be blessing in disguise. Yeah Quinn was a fan of his but I don’t think Tocchet’s a good coach. If they turn things around next season and especially if the Devils aren’t good then Quinn would probably want to stay.
 
So much wrong with this and so disingenuous.

I live in Alberta but still have a 604 and bleed blue n green.

Your very very out to lunch friend.

First off the devil's are a team that got undeserved hype a few years ago then failed to make the playoffs and then had a mediocre year finished by a pathetic 1st round loss, not exactly an upward trajectory.

They have some issues for sure but we are in shambles. Top to bottom we're a laughing stock leaguewide.

The devil's had what five more points than the nucks despite the numerous injuries including our goalie for 70 games and being forced to trade our 2nd best 100 point forward than losing the guy we traded for and our #1 centre playing healthy again for the rest of the year one point out of the playoffs.

Their Hughes' both missed significant time. A Devils fan could rattle off a bunch of bad luck stuff too it dont mean diddly. Dont make excuses for us we deserve everything this year and then some.

The Canucks will be a much better team next year for the simple fact Demko is healthy and we rebuilt our Dcorp and it's one of the strongest to go along with what should be a top five goalie tandem.

The defense is great and the goaltending is solid but man have you seen the forward group? Its beyond bad.

The team has 20+ million with only two forward spots to fill

Oh shoot, you have.

First off its 16.7 million, with all our rookies sent down. Not 20+, maybe you were looking at literally every single other team, but not us. We are actually in a bottom 10 cap position this offseason, cheers!

But two forwards to replace? Two? Just the outgoing Boeser and Suter and we're fine?

Which one of Garland, Hoglander or Chytil is your two current top6 if I may ask? Because Debrusk is already borderline in an ideal world and Ep40 makes only one proper top 6.

along with plenty of assets to pull a trade.

Plenty?!?

Dude we get 7 draft picks per year like everyone else.

We've been so deprived and allergic to prospects we have one Kirill Kudryatsev way outperform his draft position and now we're flush in trade bait I guess.

No other team has like 5 KK's each. Nah.

Vilmer "ricky bobby" Alriksson is the piece that gets us a top 6 center I guess. Maybe we add Chicago's 2027 4th.

The whole reason we're in this mess is because we've NEVER had plenty of assets in decades. Literal decades buddy.

The devil's have an injury prone #1 centre, a bunch of trades that didn't really work out and unreliable goaltending and let's be honest all those high picks haven't exactly lit the league on fire.

We have a injury prone #1 goalie and #1 center, a bunch of brick by brick moves that havent moved the needle and lets be honest our (checks notes) two whopping prospects worth a damn arent gonna be world beaters either.

So what why exactly would Quinn want to leave the team in a beautiful city that adores him, made him captain and he's built a life in?

Because we're a laughing stock, he's spent his whole life in the East owes us nothing and will be a god anywhere he goes, regardless of the statues we would build.

Plus we're kinda proving time and time again we cant build a proper team around him with this ownership group. He's not an idiot he's a bigger hockey nerd than all of us with better connections around and IN the league than anyone here.

Wouldn't it be fair to say that Jack could just as easily go to UFA and come here followed by Luke?
Stupid right? Just like it's stupid that people think Quinn would do the same when at his age in all the years we've never seen it. When they are old and on their last contract sure but not now.

Its actually more realistic imo to think a mystery team trades for all 3 within the next couple years. A Stevie Yzerman power move or something.

Besides Quinn literally said his #1 goal is to win with the team that drafted him and made him captain, just like Jack and Nico.

Of course he said that. Tocchet said alot of things too.

Things change mox.

End of the day it's funny that a devil's fan who's team literally made the playoffs than didn't because of goaltending and then had a season barely better than ours despite all that happened feels you guys are a superior team now or more importantly two years from now, or you think that shitty offer would get the 2nd best Dman at worst with two years remaining at 8 million.

Buddy today, the Devils are better than the Canucks, and theyre a team with huge flaws and question marks everywhere. Come join us in Nucks reality please.
 
Well I don't know if thats guaranteed but point taken.
They can, but why not get him now and not waste 2 years of your other stars primes?

I have a good feeling VAN trades him this summer for a nice NJ haul. Only thing that is going to stop it is their owner.
 
They can, but why not get him now and not waste 2 years of your other stars primes?

I have a good feeling VAN trades him this summer for a nice NJ haul. Only thing that is going to stop it is their owner.
If a “nice NJ haul” is anything that’s been mentioned in this thread I would trade him elsewhere or just keep him and see if be can be convinced to re-sign.
 
If a “nice NJ haul” is anything that’s been mentioned in this thread I would trade him elsewhere or just keep him and see if be can be convinced to re-sign.
Yah, but Hughes would probably say no elsewhere. His final destination is going to be NJ. What a lucky team. Going to get a dman like Hughes b/c he wants to play with his bros. I still cannot fathom why Jim would say that publicly. He ruined his leverage. Mindboggling
 
Yah, but Hughes would probably say no elsewhere. His final destination is going to be NJ. What a lucky team. Going to get a dman like Hughes b/c he wants to play with his bros. I still cannot fathom why Jim would say that publicly. He ruined his leverage. Mindboggling

I mean he can’t say no. He has no trade protections. IF the Canucks traded him now that’s 2 seasons of a Norris D at under 8 mil. Teams will trade for that guy.
 
Yah, but Hughes would probably say no elsewhere. His final destination is going to be NJ. What a lucky team. Going to get a dman like Hughes b/c he wants to play with his bros. I still cannot fathom why Jim would say that publicly. He ruined his leverage. Mindboggling
He has no say, he doesn’t have trade protection.
 
He has no say, he doesn’t have trade protection.
I know, but the Canucks are already looking like one of the worst run franchises these days. You think their optics will look good for future players if they just chuck him elsewhere instead of where he wants to go?
 
I think we need a young 1C as the return for Hughes. We would still have a good D core without him. We have D Petey and Willander who both look very promising, nothing for a 1C.
 

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