Raptors Discussion: v97 Raptor's 2024-2025 - Training camp begins Oct. 1

Keep or Trade - Siakam

  • Trade

    Votes: 63 90.0%
  • Re-Sign

    Votes: 7 10.0%

  • Total voters
    70
  • Poll closed .

thewave

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live where?

In Africa. There are a lot of projects going on in different countries with different challenges. That's where Masai does his "humanitarian" work mostly. If you can call a donation and a few photo ops humanitarian works. Just like Leonardo D flying around and on Yachts around the world having one of the largest carbon footprints known being a champion for the environment (lol)
 

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Houston Rockets

While Houston appears to be in the driver’s seat to land VanVleet, and the Rockets expect to offer the veteran guard a two-year contract worth roughly $80 million, the longtime Raptors starter is expected to at least meet with Toronto and Houston when free agency begins, league sources told Yahoo Sports. Should VanVleet ultimately stay north of the border, the Raptors appear willing to offer him a deal north of three years, $90 million, which could potentially open the door for Mavericks point guard Kyrie Irving to land an opportunity with Houston and gain the negotiating leverage with Dallas that Harden was searching for once upon a time. Even still, Irving and the Mavericks are expected to come to terms on a new deal, sources said.


The Rockets will also be waiting for a decision from Lopez, who is said to have a two-year deal worth roughly $40 million waiting for him from Houston, but could also return to Milwaukee, where Lopez helped the Bucks claim the 2021 championship. It’s been difficult to pin down the Rockets’ backup options at center if Lopez spurns their advances, outside of Raptors center Jakob Poeltl, but Toronto’s big man is expected to return to the franchise on a deal larger than Nikola Vučević’s three-year, $60 million extension with Chicago earlier this week, sources said.

Mid-level market

With so few top talents available as unrestricted free agents, this summer’s mid-level exception field has grown quite crowded. Atlanta, Brooklyn, Charlotte, Chicago, Cleveland, Dallas, Memphis, Minnesota, New York, New Orleans, Portland, Toronto and Washington all have access to the $12.2 million salary slot, in addition to the Lakers.


Wizards guard Monte Morris has drawn a long list of interested teams on the trade market, including the Timberwolves and Bulls, led by former Nuggets executives Tim Connelly and Artūras Karnišovas, respectively. Miami, should the Heat lose Gabe Vincent, Toronto, if VanVleet walks, New Orleans, Utah and Brooklyn have all been mentioned by league sources as teams to watch for Morris.
 

fancy lad

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Positive for Fred maybe, 4 years @30m is barf worthy.
I mean the money in the nba is grotesque. theyre truly throwing around silly numbers at this point.

I used to not really care about inflated sports contracts all my life, but with the cost of living being so difficult in a city like toronto for regular middle class people, i cant help but get a bit jaded when I hear these nba salary figures.
 

GoonieFace

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I mean the money in the nba is grotesque. theyre truly throwing around silly numbers at this point.

I used to not really care about inflated sports contracts all my life, but with the cost of living being so difficult in a city like toronto for regular middle class people, i cant help but get a bit jaded when I hear these nba salary figures.
I honestly don’t care what they make, but from a team standpoint I wouldn’t do this deal. I’m not a genius on the NBA cap, so I’m not sure what not signing him does to their cap structure
 
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fancy lad

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I honestly don’t care what they make, but from a team standpoint I wouldn’t do this deal. I’m not a genius on the NBA cap, so I’m not sure what not signing him does to their cap structure
its my understanding that retaining players allows for different spending than bringing in new players.

they can sign Fred for $30 million, but they can’t use that money to sign anyone. Doing so would put them over the luxury tax, but signing Fred keeps them within the luxury tax.

yeah Its pretty dumb IMO.

Thats why many people are suggesting a sign and trade Makes the most sense For the team.

someone correct me if I got that wrong.
 

Eyedea

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Not that I didn’t expect the 4/80, but it’s kinda funny how most of these starting “traditional” Cs are basically tied to a ~20m aav. Turner, Capela, Allen, Vucevic, Nurkic, Poeltl.
 
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saska sault

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its my understanding that retaining players allows for different spending than bringing in new players.

they can sign Fred for $30 million, but they can’t use that money to sign anyone. Doing so would put them over the luxury tax, but signing Fred keeps them within the luxury tax.

yeah Its pretty dumb IMO.

Thats why many people are suggesting a sign and trade Makes the most sense For the team.

someone correct me if I got that wrong.

Correct. They basically can sign a replacement to a league minimum or a mid level exception which is either 5m or 10m per year. Because Fred has been with the raptors for more than 3 seasons, he has "Bird Rights" which means the team can exceed the salary cap to sign him/sign and trade him. Its a rule to allow homegrown talent to stay with teams. Bird rights sometimes follow a player when they are traded because its tied to the contract. This is why a lot of Raptor fans may not be sold on Fred being our long term PG but it beats losing him for nothing and not having the ability to sign a player of his magnitude to replace him.
 

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